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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 1:42:22 GMT
We've definitely lost some ground on the freedom to trade and the rule of law. Ha ha ha ha, who wants to defund the police? Who is letting all this robing burning and destroying happen. Who is defunding the police? Are they republican mayors and governors? And, answer this question. Is the democrat party now a socialist party, or even worse? Yes. I want to talk about the rule of law. You bet I do. And I'll also entertain defund discussions. And I'll argue there is a neat symmetry in these two positions. |
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Post by archie on Aug 18, 2020 1:43:46 GMT
Of course it is.. even with all our faults we are the greatest.. Why? Read and learn what our constitution means. And thank the people in charge today that want to keep it that way. And it is not the democrat party. |
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Post by archie on Aug 18, 2020 1:45:35 GMT
You want to talk about the rule of law. Ha ha ha ha, who wants to defund the police? Who is letting all this robing burning and destroying happen. Who is defunding the police? Are they republican mayors and governors? And, answer this question. Is the democrat party now a socialist party, or even worse? Yes. I want to talk about the rule of law. You bet I do. And I'll also entertain defund discussions. And I'll argue there is a neat symmetry in these two positions. OK what good is defunding the police going to do for you? |
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Post by archie on Aug 18, 2020 1:49:03 GMT
This should be interesting. Absolutely, and I mean that seriously. I have always believed we are the best of the best, and the worst of the worst. The best of the best is what gives us unlimited possibilities. But it is in constant tension with the worst of the worst. Freon What is the worst of the worst? |
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Post by limey² on Aug 18, 2020 1:53:44 GMT
You don't play cricket. You don't play rugby. Your version of football is a perplexing 4 hour festival of boring. Your beer is dreadful. You never thank us for saving Democracy and capitalism for you, twice. Honestly... you should rejoin the Empire and learn a little humility. How did your country save our democracy and capitalism twice?  ? Is that a serious question? Don't they teach 20th Century history in America? |
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Post by limey² on Aug 18, 2020 1:54:07 GMT
Absolutely, and I mean that seriously. I have always believed we are the best of the best, and the worst of the worst. The best of the best is what gives us unlimited possibilities. But it is in constant tension with the worst of the worst. Freon What is the worst of the worst? Budweiser. |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 18, 2020 1:58:13 GMT
What is the worst of the worst? Budweiser.
We are not proud of that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 1:58:50 GMT
Read and learn what our constitution means. And thank the people in charge today that want to keep it that way. And it is not the democrat party. It's not the Trumpian GOP, either. |
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Post by freonbale on Aug 18, 2020 2:01:25 GMT
Absolutely, and I mean that seriously. I have always believed we are the best of the best, and the worst of the worst. The best of the best is what gives us unlimited possibilities. But it is in constant tension with the worst of the worst. Freon What is the worst of the worst? Greed, corruption, exploitation, inequality, intolerance, shortsightedness, to name a few.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 2:09:18 GMT
Read and learn what our constitution means. And thank the people in charge today that want to keep it that way. And it is not the democrat party. Read it. That's not it. Ranked number 15 in Freedom behind Britain. So I guess that's not it. The index published here presents a broad measure of human freedom, understood as the absence of coercive constraint. This fifth annual index uses 76 distinct indicators of personal and economic freedom in the following areas: Rule of Law Security and Safety Movement Religion Association, Assembly, and Civil Society Expression and Information Identity and Relationships Size of Government Legal System and Property Rights Access to Sound Money Freedom to Trade Internationally Regulation of Credit, Labor, and Business www.cato.org/human-freedom-index-new |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 2:11:45 GMT
Yes. I want to talk about the rule of law. You bet I do. And I'll also entertain defund discussions. And I'll argue there is a neat symmetry in these two positions. OK what good is defunding the police going to do for you? If ^ that is what we are talking about... the implication is that police resources can reallocated to chasing down more violent criminals, like rapists and child predators. I'll trade 1,000 drug convictions, shit, I'll trade 10,000 drug convictions, for just one rape conviction. But realistically, when you consider that most rape test kits sit untested in a dusty room, the actual effect would be far greater than 1 additional conviction. We're staring down the barrel of the policy change that could potentially solve whatever remains of our problem with violent street crime. What is gained in defunding and reforming our law enforcement systems? A safer and more peaceful world. |
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Post by bama beau on Aug 18, 2020 2:33:51 GMT
We're the best in women's soccer.
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Post by limey² on Aug 18, 2020 2:34:33 GMT
OK what good is defunding the police going to do for you? If ^ that is what we are talking about... the implication is that police resources can reallocated to chasing down more violent criminals, like rapists and child predators. I'll trade 1,000 drug convictions, shit, I'll trade 10,000 drug convictions, for just one rape conviction. But realistically, when you consider that most rape test kits sit untested in a dusty room, the actual effect would be far greater than 1 additional conviction. We're staring down the barrel of the policy change that could potentially solve whatever remains of our problem with violent street crime. What is gained in defunding and reforming our law enforcement systems? A safer and more peaceful world. This stuff is obvious, to anyone willing to give it a moment of thought. |
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Post by archie on Aug 18, 2020 18:47:03 GMT
How did your country save our democracy and capitalism twice?  ? Is that a serious question? Don't they teach 20th Century history in America? Just answer my question Limey. |
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Post by archie on Aug 18, 2020 18:52:07 GMT
Read and learn what our constitution means. And thank the people in charge today that want to keep it that way. And it is not the democrat party. It's not the Trumpian GOP, either. Number one, the second amendment. What party is it that wants to disarm us, so when they start their dictatorship we can’t kill them? |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 18, 2020 18:57:23 GMT
By many measures, it is the most ethnically diverse. I’m told this is a society’s strength.
(Want to honor the OP’s intentions by adding gasoline...)
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Post by archie on Aug 18, 2020 18:59:52 GMT
OK what good is defunding the police going to do for you? If ^ that is what we are talking about... the implication is that police resources can reallocated to chasing down more violent criminals, like rapists and child predators. I'll trade 1,000 drug convictions, shit, I'll trade 10,000 drug convictions, for just one rape conviction. But realistically, when you consider that most rape test kits sit untested in a dusty room, the actual effect would be far greater than 1 additional conviction. We're staring down the barrel of the policy change that could potentially solve whatever remains of our problem with violent street crime. It will not be a safer and more peaceful world with less police to protect you. And as far as your rape kit knowledge. A repeat criminal now not only has his fingerprints on file, but also his DNA. If it is a new criminal, we can hope he will be caught. My opinion, more women should be taught gun safety and learn to shoot. Might be less rape victims. Possibly more dead nut cases. |
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 18, 2020 19:12:34 GMT
What is the worst of the worst? Greed, corruption, exploitation, inequality, intolerance, shortsightedness, to name a few.
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Yes.. We've allowed the privatization of profits and the socialization of losses .. We've had 40+ years of trickle-down lunacy that crushed the middle class along with 40+ years of socialism for corporations and 1%'ers.. all while keeping poor ignorant whites stirred up against blacks.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 18, 2020 19:41:08 GMT
www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/defund-the-police-1007254/If ^ that is what we are talking about... the implication is that police resources can reallocated to chasing down more violent criminals, like rapists and child predators. I'll trade 1,000 drug convictions, shit, I'll trade 10,000 drug convictions, for just one rape conviction. But realistically, when you consider that most rape test kits sit untested in a dusty room, the actual effect would be far greater than 1 additional conviction. We're staring down the barrel of the policy change that could potentially solve whatever remains of our problem with violent street crime. It will not be a safer and more peaceful world with less police to protect you. And as far as your rape kit knowledge. A repeat criminal now not only has his fingerprints on file, but also his DNA. If it is a new criminal, we can hope he will be caught. My opinion, more women should be taught gun safety and learn to shoot. Might be less rape victims. Possibly more dead nut cases. Archie, you believe being a vigilante is a legal way to use your guns, and you have admitted to doing so. That makes you a criminal. I don't think we should be taking safety advice from a criminal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 20:12:24 GMT
It's not the Trumpian GOP, either. Number one, the second amendment. What party is it that wants to disarm us, so when they start their dictatorship we can’t kill them? "Take the guns first, go through due process second." |
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