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Post by sokpupet on May 4, 2022 17:07:26 GMT
“…The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn. …” ~Methodist Pastor David Barnhart
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2022 21:34:28 GMT
Yes, that's pretty much it.
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Post by Mercy for All on May 5, 2022 14:42:39 GMT
“…The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn. …” ~Methodist Pastor David Barnhart I think this was already quoted in the man forum. There's a lot of truth to it. It's not universally true. |
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Post by Monster Man on May 5, 2022 16:16:05 GMT
Yeah, I have seen this many times before. It builds off the same flawed premise: Which is a lack of understanding for the Pro-Life position.
First, this is a false dilemma, no one is getting thrown under the bus for the unborn.
Second, It is not more "convenient" to advocate for the unborn than it is for anyone else not being killed for the mere convenience of it.
Third, the core of the Pro-Life position is that killing the unborn is wrong because it is a human life with some right to life... just like the poor, widows, orphans, the sick, immigrants, prisoners... Pro-Life people don't think you should kill them for the mere convenience either...
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 16:49:05 GMT
Yeah, I have seen this many times before. It builds off the same flawed premise: Which is a lack of understanding for the Pro-Life position. First, this is a false dilemma, no one is getting thrown under the bus for the unborn. Second, It is not more "convenient" to advocate for the unborn than it is for anyone else not being killed for the mere convenience of it. Third, the core of the Pro-Life position is that killing the unborn is wrong because it is a human life with some right to life... just like the poor, widows, orphans, the sick, immigrants, prisoners... Pro-Life people don't think you should kill them for the mere convenience either... Congratulations, I've never seen someone miss the point so obtrusively. Do you need to wear glasses or is it simply reading comprehension? |
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Post by Monster Man on May 5, 2022 17:58:50 GMT
Yeah, I have seen this many times before. It builds off the same flawed premise: Which is a lack of understanding for the Pro-Life position. First, this is a false dilemma, no one is getting thrown under the bus for the unborn. Second, It is not more "convenient" to advocate for the unborn than it is for anyone else not being killed for the mere convenience of it. Third, the core of the Pro-Life position is that killing the unborn is wrong because it is a human life with some right to life... just like the poor, widows, orphans, the sick, immigrants, prisoners... Pro-Life people don't think you should kill them for the mere convenience either... Congratulations, I've never seen someone miss the point so obtrusively. Do you need to wear glasses or is it simply reading comprehension? I get the point, I don’t agree with the point. It’s an absurd point. The typical red herring in these discussions. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 19:42:08 GMT
Congratulations, I've never seen someone miss the point so obtrusively. Do you need to wear glasses or is it simply reading comprehension? I get the point, I don’t agree with the point. It’s an absurd point. The typical red herring in these discussions. No, you didn't respond like someone who disagrees with the point, you responded like someone who's missed it completely. |
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Post by Monster Man on May 5, 2022 20:08:07 GMT
I get the point, I don’t agree with the point. It’s an absurd point. The typical red herring in these discussions. No, you didn't respond like someone who disagrees with the point, you responded like someone who's missed it completely. Feel free to explain how then. Or just go on crying about it endlessly. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 20:20:41 GMT
No, you didn't respond like someone who disagrees with the point, you responded like someone who's missed it completely. Feel free to explain how then. Or just go on crying about it endlessly. It's obvious that you missed it on purpose so I would just be wasting my virtual ink. |
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Post by Monster Man on May 5, 2022 20:43:47 GMT
Feel free to explain how then. Or just go on crying about it endlessly. It's obvious that you missed it on purpose so I would just be wasting my virtual ink. Yet here you are... |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 20:52:55 GMT
It's obvious that you missed it on purpose so I would just be wasting my virtual ink. Yet here you are... Why are you crying? |
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Post by Monster Man on May 5, 2022 21:05:45 GMT
Joy. Makes me smile watching you melt down into incoherent rambling vulgarity. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 21:07:19 GMT
Joy. Makes me smile watching you melt down into incoherent rambling vulgarity. You're whining again, crybaby. |
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Post by Monster Man on May 5, 2022 21:13:40 GMT
Joy. Makes me smile watching you melt down into incoherent rambling vulgarity. You're whining again, crybaby. What was I whining about here? You are so idiotic you just repeat the same things I have said to you mindlessly. I live in your head rent free. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 21:17:52 GMT
You're whining again, crybaby. What was I whining about here? You are so idiotic you just repeat the same things I have said to you mindlessly. I live in your head rent free. Stop crying baby, you'll get your pacifier. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 21:19:27 GMT
You're whining again, crybaby. What was I whining about here? You are so idiotic you just repeat the same things I have said to you mindlessly. ... Yeah, you got that right.  |
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Post by Monster Man on May 5, 2022 21:31:26 GMT
What was I whining about here? You are so idiotic you just repeat the same things I have said to you mindlessly. I live in your head rent free. Stop crying baby, you'll get your pacifier. $$$$$$$ |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2022 21:32:49 GMT
Stop crying baby, you'll get your pacifier. $$$$$$$ Stop crying baby, you'll get your pacifier. |
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