Nostalgia Time for the Admin

^ That's where you are wrong. Maybe stop using discredited sources. The facts have already been presented to you in this thread. 

This 4 month claim has no support. Its been debunked. If CNN is running on that narrative, they're wrong, too.

In your mind it may be. Obama and prior administration officials declarations are two different things. Stop trying to muddy the waters to fit your own timeline. Obama made his declaration in Oct. CDC said they were aware in April. WHO acted in June. No amount of you playing word games alters that.

10-6=4  Oct is the 10th month. June is the 6th month.

 Trying much to convolute Obama's health official with Obama himself speaking out? That's the disagreemnt and a fact you refuse to grasp.

"The Obama administration started to address H1N1 just as the disease emerged in April 2009. A public health emergency was declared on April 26, 2009, when there were about 20 confirmed cases in the United States. The Obama administration renewed this declaration twice in the ensuing months before declaring a national emergency in October 2009."

Your kudos are rejected for the usual insincerity of them.  What I posted from PJ was borne out by your own words and timeline that you posted as it pertained to the WHO (June). Obama declared it a national emergency 4 months later. (Oct)  Even Snopes agrees with that as was posted previously.


That's what PJ claimed...and it was correct.

But since you are dense...once more.


Now PJ again..





"Obama didn’t declare H1N1 a national emergency until four months after WHO declared it a pandemic."



Apology accepted.  Now maybe you can use your admin superpowers to annoy someone else who actually is trolling here instead of splitting hairs and playing word games that you lost lost in the end anyway.

Oh okay I see what is happening here. When you read the quote and the PJ article and you come away thinking the claim is that Obama waited until October to recognize H1N1 required some sort of national response- that he was essentially resting on his laurels and doing nothing while Americans died.

In reality, the record states that the Obama admin had had a national response underway since April. No one disputes that. 

This is a disingenuous debate. PJ wants to sell me an argument about Obama fiddling while the nation burns but when you peel back the layers, there was a national response underway long before October and the actual claim being made by PJ turns on the esoteric difference between a public health emergency and a national emergency. 

www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2017/10/public_health_and_national_eme.html

So let me get this straight.

The big case against Obama was that he didn't expand his executive authority as fast he should have? And this coming from the people who think Covid-19 (which is far more dangerous than H1N1) should be handled locally?

That's good stuff. Real good stuff.

Lots of ASSumption there that no one said or was talking about. But if it makes you feel like you won something by pretending you can read minds, so be it. I'm tired of repeating myself. Pick up your marbles. 

I think you've been very misleading in this discussion. If you agreed that Obama had a federal response started back in April 2009, you should have said so at the outset. It coulda saved us a lot of hassle.

But, no, you have to be coy and cute. And now you're left defending the claim that Obama should have expanded executive authority sooner in order to deal with a health crisis that pales in comparison with Covid-19.