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Post by Admin on Aug 16, 2020 18:02:47 GMT
<sigh> .. No good deed goes unpunished.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 16, 2020 18:10:05 GMT
<sigh> .. No good deed goes unpunished.
Sorry, KSU's behavior vis-a-vis censorship and alteration of posts without notice or attribution is "good deeds"?
Really?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 18:11:04 GMT
<sigh> .. No good deed goes unpunished.
Sorry, KSU's behavior vis-a-vis censorship and alteration of posts without notice or attribution is "good deeds"?
Really?
No, the good deed he is referencing is his choice to make KSU a mod. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 18:13:55 GMT
<sigh> .. No good deed goes unpunished.  ? |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 16, 2020 18:14:29 GMT
Sorry, KSU's behavior vis-a-vis censorship and alteration of posts without notice or attribution is "good deeds"?
Really?
No, the good deed he is referencing is his choice to make KSU a mod.
I would like to think that Admin can speak for himself here.
And IMHO a better deed would be to revoke K-StU's moderator status in favor of a more neutral and less invasive person.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 18:16:36 GMT
No, the good deed he is referencing is his choice to make KSU a mod.
I would like to think that Admin can speak for himself here.
And IMHO a better deed would be to revoke K-StU's moderator status in favor of a more neutral and less invasive person.
Agreed, he's not of suitable temperament or impartiality. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 18:18:38 GMT
No, the good deed he is referencing is his choice to make KSU a mod.
I would like to think that Admin can speak for himself here.
And IMHO a better deed would be to revoke K-StU's moderator status in favor of a more neutral and less invasive person.
I agree he can speak for himself but as long as we are debating the meaning of his post, I believe my read is the obvious one given the context. |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 16, 2020 18:19:13 GMT
You tell us. Libertarianism is essentially conservative: support for unregulated capitalism, opposition to any and all government social programs, for example. It is also a naive philosophy that fails to take into account human flaws, and ignores the consequent growth of a wealth-based aristocracy that pollutes the American body politic.
the left has a lot to learn from libertarians about being better (and more consistent) leftists.
That statement is a good example of the smug and simplistic libertarian attitude that so annoys.
Especially since by your own admission Libertarians are anything but consistent. They have no unified message. It is why there will never be a viable Libertarian party until you guys become better and more consistent, as well as less smug and less simplistic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 18:20:21 GMT
the left has a lot to learn from libertarians about being better (and more consistent) leftists.
That statement is a good example of the smug and simplistic libertarian attitude that so annoys.
Especially since by your own admission Libertarians are anything but consistent. They have no unified message. It is why there will never be a viable Libertarian party until you guys become better and more consistent, as well as less smug and less simplistic.
I don't think it is smug or simplistic. I'm just being honest. I think the left is not left enough. There I said it! For the record, I am a libertarian, not a Libertarian. I wouldn't join that party if it was the last one on earth. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 18:22:59 GMT
Yes, the libertarians are like Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives: we are not of one mind, we disagree on this and that and we subdivide into our respective tribes. No one attacks libertarians like other libertarians.
With that said, broadly speaking, the libertarian message is liberal far more than it is conservative. We're anti-war, open borders, pro-choice, and pro-market. That's as liberal as it gets.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 16, 2020 18:30:22 GMT
Yes, the libertarians are like Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives: we are not of one mind, we disagree on this and that and we subdivide into our respective tribes. No one attacks libertarians like other libertarians. With that said, broadly speaking, the libertarian message is liberal far more than it is conservative. We're anti-war, open borders, pro-choice, and pro-market. That's as liberal as it gets. And yet it seems to be libertarian darling Senator Rand Paul who consistently stands in the way of progressive legislation.
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Post by RWB on Aug 16, 2020 19:05:08 GMT
I started a thread Trump Dead about the brother dieing and said I was sorry it was the wrong trump. Censorship by a Fucktard!!! He needs to go as mod.
It's not the first time KSpU has gone in and altered posts for content he doesn't like.
I have NO idea why Fiddler made this conservative bitch a mod here. He needs to have his wings clipped.
well some Nazi censor completely deleted my post last night |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 19:25:06 GMT
It's not the first time KSpU has gone in and altered posts for content he doesn't like.
I have NO idea why Fiddler made this conservative bitch a mod here. He needs to have his wings clipped.
well some Nazi censor completely deleted my post last night It's ok cause you are white and conservative. But help keep a guy out of scrutiny from the Secret Service and hot damn you are the devil. Lol... I don't know why I helped the idiot. Next time I'll just forward the post to the appropriate authorities and let them handle it. Threatening the President is a huge deal. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 19:30:01 GMT
well some Nazi censor completely deleted my post last night Next time I'll just forward the post to the appropriate authorities and let them handle it. Threatening the President is a huge deal. You're being silly. No one threatened the president. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 19:37:07 GMT
well some Nazi censor completely deleted my post last night It's ok cause you are white and conservative. But help keep a guy out of scrutiny from the Secret Service and hot damn you are the devil. Lol... I don't know why I helped the idiot. Next time I'll just forward the post to the appropriate authorities and let them handle it. Threatening the President is a huge deal. Please do, they'll wind up investigating you for being Batshit Crazy and a certifiable nutjob. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 19:37:09 GMT
Yes, the libertarians are like Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives: we are not of one mind, we disagree on this and that and we subdivide into our respective tribes. No one attacks libertarians like other libertarians. With that said, broadly speaking, the libertarian message is liberal far more than it is conservative. We're anti-war, open borders, pro-choice, and pro-market. That's as liberal as it gets. And yet it seems to be libertarian darling Senator Rand Paul who consistently stands in the way of progressive legislation.
Justin Amash is the real libertarian darling. Paul is too far Trump's ass, and far too conservative. He doesn't identify has a libertarian. His father is the one with the link to the libertarians and I would argue his involvement has been a net negative. He opened the door to the conspiracy theorists, anti-semites, racists and misanthropes who seem to now be taking up so much oxygen in the liberty space. Ron Paul helped pave the libertarian-to-alt-right pipeline. I say that as someone who was "brought into the movement" by him and his crew, and as someone who spent more than a decade digesting and defending right-wing libertarianism. Don't let my mistakes cloud your judgement of libertarians. The Ron Paul/ Lew Rockwell/ Mises Institute crowd does not own libertarianism. In reality, there are far better (more reasonable, more scientific, more inclusive) expounders of the philosophy. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 19:40:17 GMT
Next time I'll just forward the post to the appropriate authorities and let them handle it. Threatening the President is a huge deal. You're being silly. No one threatened the president. He lamented that he wished it was the other Trump. That fits the second example listed in Wikipedia's explanation. It has been ruled, in the past, that wishing the President was dead is the same as a public plea for him to die. That is a call to incite murder and can be punished as a felony. I'm not saying it would have happened, but it is better to be safe than sorry. |
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Post by petep on Aug 16, 2020 19:44:46 GMT
a small gov't tea party conservative and a socially liberal libertarian need to have a baby - that'd be my president..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 19:45:59 GMT
You're being silly. No one threatened the president. He lamented that he wished it was the other Trump. That fits the second example listed in Wikipedia's explanation. It has been ruled, in the past, that wishing the President was dead is the same as a public plea for him to die. That is a call to incite murder and can be punished as a felony. I'm not saying it would have happened, but it is better to be safe than sorry. I see a big difference between wishing nature took someone sooner, through illness or natural causes, and suggesting that someone ought to be killed. But that's just me. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 19:55:58 GMT
You're being silly. No one threatened the president. He lamented that he wished it was the other Trump. That fits the second example listed in Wikipedia's explanation. It has been ruled, in the past, that wishing the President was dead is the same as a public plea for him to die. That is a call to incite murder and can be punished as a felony. I'm not saying it would have happened, but it is better to be safe than sorry.  Yep, Batshit Crazy. |
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