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Post by stugatze on Aug 6, 2020 19:13:01 GMT
Not a long jump from Progressive to Communist, ..just a short skip away! Joe Biden Is Absolutely the Vehicle for the Communist Takeover of the Democrat Party By: Stacey Lennox Aug 05, 2020 Democrat nominee Joe Biden had his wife, Jill, interview with Dana Perino. One has to wonder if she ended up filling in because Joe has so many weird interview moments. While Jill vehemently denied Biden has any cognitive issues, that wasn’t even the funniest part of the interview. Biden’s wife insisted the candidate is a moderate. She actually said he’s not right or left, just a moderate .. I give Dana Perino a ton of credit for keeping a straight face. She also gets points for following up and confronting Jill with Biden’s own comments that he will be the most progressive president in history. Jill stood firm. So is Joe lying, or is Jill?
That might depend on the audience. After all, the Biden/Sanders Unity Platform explicitly calls for defunding police agencies. Black Lives Matter leaders are demanding even more radical changes to the criminal justice system, and in an interview late last month, Biden responded “Absolutely” when he was asked if he would divert funds away from law enforcement. Yet, just today, Biden said he supports additional funding for police. Perhaps it is a poll-driven statement as polls have repeatedly shown this is deeply unpopular. Especially among black Americans. From Gallup released today:
When asked whether they want the police to spend more time, the same amount of time or less time than they currently do in their area, most Black Americans — 61% — want the police presence to remain the same. This is similar to the 67% of all U.S. adults preferring the status quo, including 71% of White Americans.
Meanwhile, nearly equal proportions of Black Americans say they would like the police to spend more time in their area (20%) as say they’d like them to spend less time there (19%). So, 81% of black Americans want police to spend the same or more time in their community. Hence, Biden reverses himself again. Will the real Joe Biden please stand up?
A statement from MoveOn.org may be the most honest assessment. The far-left group agreed with Biden’s own assertion that he would be the most progressive president in history. Now the Radical Communist Party (RCP) has endorsed Biden. They did it very carefully, saying Biden is still a terrible candidate, but he is the lesser of two evils. For them, he certainly is. Trump will stand up to the anarcho-communists in antifa and other groups. Biden’s inner circle sympathizes with their aims, and their allies are ascendant in the Democrat party.
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Post by phillip on Aug 6, 2020 20:26:33 GMT
It's true. The cult leader of the RevComs, Bob Avakian, has endorsed Joe Biden. Which is worse, being endorsed by David Duke or Bob Avakian? Here's the endorsement: This is from the Constitution of the Revolutionary Communist Party (lots of citations from Marx, Lenin, and Mao in there): I wonder if Avakian gets his orders from the CCP.
Someone who no one has ever heard of (Avakian) or the KKK guy who was able to get elected to the Louisiana House of Representatives as a member of a major political party?
I'll go with the latter.
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Post by phillip on Aug 6, 2020 20:33:47 GMT
Someone who no one has ever heard of (Avakian) or the KKK guy who was able to get elected to the Louisiana House of Representatives as a member of a major political party?
I'll go with the latter.
What are the aims of the two individuals?
Who cares? The Communist Party is irrelevant in 2020 and if you said "Bob Avakian" on the street to everyday people, 99.99999% of them would have no idea who he is.
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Post by RWB on Aug 6, 2020 20:38:17 GMT
Makes sense since Senile old Joe Biden is already in the pockets of the Chinese and Ukrainians.
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Post by phillip on Aug 6, 2020 21:15:24 GMT
When has Avakian ever held office? Plus, he only endorsed Biden to get rid of Trump. As he even stated. 4. At this critical hour, every appropriate means of non-violent action must be utilized to remove this regime from power. And if, in spite of mass protest demanding the removal of the Trump/Pence regime, this regime remains in power when it is time for voting, then—without placing fundamental reliance on this—using all appropriate means to work for the removal of this regime must include voting against Trump (assuming the election is actually held). To be clear, this means not a “protest vote” for some candidate who has no chance of winning, but actually voting for the Democratic Party candidate, Biden, in order to effectively vote against Trump. This is not because Biden (and the Democratic Party in general) have suddenly become something other than what they are: representatives and instruments of this exploitative, oppressive, and literally murderous system of capitalism-imperialism. The electoral process continues to be what we revcoms have called it—BEB (Bourgeois Electoral Bullshit). It remains the case that no fundamental change for the better can come about through this electoral process, and that, in general and overall, voting under this system serves to reinforce this system, especially if voting is seen as a way—and more so if it is seen as the (only) way—to bring about meaningful change. us3.campaign-archive.com/?u=dbba24051877a5ba49ca529f2&id=068c0ff5d5&e=2dde1b6cbaNot much of an endorsement of Biden's actual platform.
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Post by thor on Aug 6, 2020 21:17:30 GMT
When has Avakian ever held office? Plus, he only endorsed Biden to get rid of Trump. As he even stated. 4. At this critical hour, every appropriate means of non-violent action must be utilized to remove this regime from power. And if, in spite of mass protest demanding the removal of the Trump/Pence regime, this regime remains in power when it is time for voting, then—without placing fundamental reliance on this—using all appropriate means to work for the removal of this regime must include voting against Trump (assuming the election is actually held). To be clear, this means not a “protest vote” for some candidate who has no chance of winning, but actually voting for the Democratic Party candidate, Biden, in order to effectively vote against Trump. This is not because Biden (and the Democratic Party in general) have suddenly become something other than what they are: representatives and instruments of this exploitative, oppressive, and literally murderous system of capitalism-imperialism. The electoral process continues to be what we revcoms have called it—BEB (Bourgeois Electoral Bullshit). It remains the case that no fundamental change for the better can come about through this electoral process, and that, in general and overall, voting under this system serves to reinforce this system, especially if voting is seen as a way—and more so if it is seen as the (only) way—to bring about meaningful change. us3.campaign-archive.com/?u=dbba24051877a5ba49ca529f2&id=068c0ff5d5&e=2dde1b6cbaNot much of an endorsement of Biden's actual platform. To be fair, there are lots of scary looking brown people in that post.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 21:20:28 GMT
ROFL
Joe Biden could be more accurately portrayed as the person who will save America from communism. If he wins re election the left and their communist push dies on the vine as the new GOP/Dem party consolidates power and makes sure they don't lose hold of it again. If he loses, the left's communist push will get much, much stronger over the next 4 years.
This is a great example of a right winger buying campaign propaganda. Not unlike the left winger "Trump's a fascist dictator!" purchase.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 6, 2020 21:52:13 GMT
Not a long jump from Progressive to Communist, ..just a short skip away! Joe Biden Is Absolutely the Vehicle for the Communist Takeover of the Democrat Party By: Stacey Lennox Aug 05, 2020 Democrat nominee Joe Biden had his wife, Jill, interview with Dana Perino. One has to wonder if she ended up filling in because Joe has so many weird interview moments. While Jill vehemently denied Biden has any cognitive issues, that wasn’t even the funniest part of the interview. Biden’s wife insisted the candidate is a moderate. She actually said he’s not right or left, just a moderate .. I give Dana Perino a ton of credit for keeping a straight face. She also gets points for following up and confronting Jill with Biden’s own comments that he will be the most progressive president in history. Jill stood firm. So is Joe lying, or is Jill?
That might depend on the audience. After all, the Biden/Sanders Unity Platform explicitly calls for defunding police agencies. Black Lives Matter leaders are demanding even more radical changes to the criminal justice system, and in an interview late last month, Biden responded “Absolutely” when he was asked if he would divert funds away from law enforcement. Yet, just today, Biden said he supports additional funding for police. Perhaps it is a poll-driven statement as polls have repeatedly shown this is deeply unpopular. Especially among black Americans. From Gallup released today:
When asked whether they want the police to spend more time, the same amount of time or less time than they currently do in their area, most Black Americans — 61% — want the police presence to remain the same. This is similar to the 67% of all U.S. adults preferring the status quo, including 71% of White Americans.
Meanwhile, nearly equal proportions of Black Americans say they would like the police to spend more time in their area (20%) as say they’d like them to spend less time there (19%). So, 81% of black Americans want police to spend the same or more time in their community. Hence, Biden reverses himself again. Will the real Joe Biden please stand up?
A statement from MoveOn.org may be the most honest assessment. The far-left group agreed with Biden’s own assertion that he would be the most progressive president in history. Now the Radical Communist Party (RCP) has endorsed Biden. They did it very carefully, saying Biden is still a terrible candidate, but he is the lesser of two evils. For them, he certainly is. Trump will stand up to the anarcho-communists in antifa and other groups. Biden’s inner circle sympathizes with their aims, and their allies are ascendant in the Democrat party.
Interesting concept. What you are suggesting is that just like the racist right took over the Republicans, so too, the socialist left will take over the Dems.
Possible, but one big difference. The Dems are MUCH more educated than the Repubs, as a whole. The bulk of Trump's base are low educated white christian men. You.
I keep hearing your doom and gloom about when Dems take over, but what you are really saying is that you believe that people in power will behave the same way YOU would behave if given that power. That assumption is wrong, thought it says mountains about the type of person you are.
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Post by phillip on Aug 6, 2020 22:22:06 GMT
This is a thread killer. We've been hearing about the "Communist takeover" of the Democratic Party nonsense since the 1930s and it still has never happened. Supposedly, Obama was going to do it but he bailed out corporations instead (About as antithesis to Communism as it gets). Luckily, it's 2020 and people under the age of 50 largely no longer care about Red Scares.
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Post by phillip on Aug 6, 2020 23:07:05 GMT
Furthermore, Joe Biden is a leaf in the wind. As the Democratic rank and file become more radical, revolutionary, and totalitarian, Biden will do and say whatever they want. He has no core values. He just wants to be king. And if the communizing left starts laying out ridiculous demands, he will go along with them, just so long as they let him stay king.
Talking about having "no core values" in regards to Biden? Trump has been a Democrat, part of the Reform Party, an independent, and a Republican.
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Post by phillip on Aug 6, 2020 23:09:25 GMT
This is a thread killer. We've been hearing about the "Communist takeover" of the Democratic Party nonsense since the 1930s and it still has never happened. Supposedly, Obama was going to do it but he bailed out corporations instead (About as antithesis to Communism as it gets). Luckily, it's 2020 and people under the age of 50 largely no longer care about Red Scares.
Nonetheless, actual MLM communists find Biden more appealing than Trump, enough so that, in spite of their usual disdain for electoral politics, they have endorsed Biden for president and are staging nationwide protests to get people to vote against Trump. Biden may not be the dictator the communists want most, but he's a lot closer than Trump. Communist revolution isn't easy. Lenin himself admitted in the 1910s that "opportunists" in the West had accepted the small beer of immediate reforms over the longer-term goal of revolution. This created a working class that had it too good to revolt. So communists need someone angrier to do their revolution for them so they can get control of the dictatorship that follows. Guess what angry people they've picked to be their revolutionary force in America. And if you recall, these sparks of revolution first started under the permissive administration of Obama, growing from the Trayvon Martin protests to the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore, with the Obama Justice Department threatening civil rights investigations if police did anything to stop the riots. And now we see the sparks have grown into flames across the country. What should we expect of this trend but that the flames of revolution will grow bigger and more destructive as more people are brought into the movement and our police are overwhelmed and unable to do anything about it? The Revolutionary Communist Party is doing everything in their power to fan the flames and grow the protests bigger until they get the revolution they've been dreaming of all these years. They're not just dreaming now. They're acting. And their actions are producing growing effects, with the stated aim of overthrow and dictatorship. And these people who are pushing our society toward the brink see Joe Biden as fitting in more with their program than Trump.
*Yawn*
Yes, Communists are closer to Democrats than Republicans. How unique. Even communists admit they have very little actually in common with Democrats.
By the way, the beginning of modern day nationwide protests for overall social/political change started with the Tea Party. Who magically disappeared as soon as the black guy left office.
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Post by phillip on Aug 6, 2020 23:17:39 GMT
Talking about having "no core values" in regards to Biden? Trump has been a Democrat, part of the Reform Party, an independent, and a Republican.
This is from 1988.
Yes, I'm aware Trump is an attention whore. He has been his entire life. Before the Republican Party went completely off the rails, the thought of Donald Trump being president would have been taken as seriously as Kanye West's current publicity stunt. And now the country has gone down the shitter due to the GOP's ineptitude.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 6, 2020 23:21:19 GMT
Furthermore, Joe Biden is a leaf in the wind. As the Democratic rank and file become more radical, revolutionary, and totalitarian, Biden will do and say whatever they want. He has no core values. He just wants to be king. And if the communizing left starts laying out ridiculous demands, he will go along with whatever they say, just so long as they let him stay king. The RCP see Joe Biden as a putz. He won't send "fascist stormtroopers" out to stop their revolution. He'll just hide in the basement until all the cities have been taken over because the revolutionary forces are more than police can handle. If I were wanting to overthrow America, I'd want sleepy Joe to be president too. He won't get in the way. He's soft, and we communists need a president who's soft. Wow. I wouldn't vote for him if I expected any of that to happen.
I want healthcare to be a right. I want laws passed to strengthen our government so someone like Trump can never damage it the way he has again. I want us to seriously look at reparations for slavery, so we can finally end that dark chapter of our history. I want the police to police, and that's it. I want a massive push to rebuild our infrastructure, by Americans, using American resources. I want more money put towards education so we can lift our poor classes up, and more efficiency put into the military so it doesn't require more funds to compensate for its excess bureaucracy.
I think Biden and a Dem congress can accomplish all except that last one. Freon
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Post by phillip on Aug 6, 2020 23:37:08 GMT
*Yawn*
Yes, Communists are closer to Democrats than Republicans. How unique. Even communists admit they have very little actually in common with Democrats.
By the way, the beginning of modern day nationwide protests for overall social/political change started with the Tea Party. Who magically disappeared as soon as the black guy left office.
Yes, the Democrats are closer to communism than the Republicans. But usually they are nowhere near close enough for communists to support them in elections. Now they are. And with Biden being the leaf in the wind that he is, as the Democrat rank and file move ever closer to the communists and follow them out into the streets to overwhelm the police so the real revolutionaries are free to act under the cover of "mostly peaceful protesters," Joe Biden will be right there behind them, following wherever they lead--a tailist, as Lenin described people who let revolutionary forces get out of control. And when the police are overwhelmed, Joe won't send reinforcements. The communists know that. The revolutionaries will refer to reinforcements as "fascist stormtroopers," and Joe Biden will say, "Not me. I'm not that kind of guy." And the revolutionaries and their cover of "mostly peaceful" Democrat nitwits will overwhelm police and take over not just parts of cities like they did in Portland, but whole cities. Bob Avakian can see it now. He has the army he's always dreamed of. Now he just needs the government to stand down. And Joe Biden is the boy to do it. No wonder even Bob Avakian himself is becoming an "opportunist" in order to get a president that won't be a problem, now that victory is at hand. And as for the Tea Party, that was a flash in the pan. There was no growth like there has been of the revolutionary Democrat Terror Cult (DTC). The Tea Party never got beyond standing around at boring rallies and disrupting town hall meetings. The DTC went from protests to local riots to nationwide riots. What's next for them? Revolution, it looks like. How will it be if Derek Chauvin is acquitted next year? The DTC might really break loose then. Bob Avakian really, really, really wants Joe Biden to be president at that time. Trump would be a disaster for the communists and their hoped for revolution. Uh yeah, and they endorsed Obama twice too. Like I said, nothing new. The fact you seemingly don’t know that shows how irrelevant their endorsements really are. They also said similar things in 2004 by partly endorsing Kerry. www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpusa/
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Post by Greg55_99 on Aug 7, 2020 1:11:08 GMT
Bob.... who?
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Post by stugatze on Aug 7, 2020 10:13:55 GMT
Hey Greggy, .. the Commies have endorsed Joe Biden. He is NOT their first pick, .. but, .... they WILL ride him as their horse, and NOT only that, .. they may get THEIR pick for the VP spot to run with Biden! The problem .. is that so many democrat party voters have NO damn clue to WHO has taken their political party over by and large, .. and that is sad!
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 7, 2020 12:22:50 GMT
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Post by crepe05 on Aug 7, 2020 12:37:19 GMT
It's true. The cult leader of the RevComs, Bob Avakian, has endorsed Joe Biden. Which is worse, being endorsed by David Duke or Bob Avakian? Here's the endorsement: This is from the Constitution of the Revolutionary Communist Party (lots of citations from Marx, Lenin, and Mao in there): I wonder if Avakian gets his orders from the CCP.
Someone who no one has ever heard of (Avakian) or the KKK guy who was able to get elected to the Louisiana House of Representatives as a member of a major political party?
I'll go with the latter.
David Duke is no longer involved in Louisiana politics. I have no idea where he is or what he's doing, and don't intend to research it. We did the right thing and rid our state of him. Does your party have any plans of what to do with Avakian?
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Post by stugatze on Aug 7, 2020 15:57:04 GMT
The old normal democrat party is gone and dead, .. for the last few decades it was mostly a refuge for the most radical leftists ... hoping one day to take charge of it, .. one like Barry Obongo, and his black racist Marxist liberation theology.
Barry fooled lots of people in 2008 and in 2012, .. he and his male wife, but, not anymore!
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Post by archie on Aug 7, 2020 16:43:55 GMT
What are the aims of the two individuals?
Who cares? The Communist Party is irrelevant in 2020 and if you said "Bob Avakian" on the street to everyday people, 99.99999% of them would have no idea who he is.
You are right. 99.99999% that don’t know what time of day it is, are democrats. They don’t see what the (D) party is either. The last three letters of democrat word is what they are.
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