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Post by Running Deer on Oct 27, 2021 3:43:21 GMT
"Thomas" is a nickname, meaning "twin". The Bible never mentions who he was the twin of, nor what his given name is. Scholars' best guess is that his name was Judas.
St. Peter may have never been addressed as "Peter" in his whole life. His given name was Simon. Simon and Jesus spoke Aramaic, an Afro-Asiatic Semitic language closely related to Hebrew. Jesus gave Simon the nickname "Kefa", meaning "rock" in Aramaic. The New Testament was written in Greek, an Indo-European language not related at all to Aramaic or Hebrew. The nickname "Kefa" was translated into Greek as "Petros", also meaning "rock", and that nickname came thru Latin into English as "Peter". It is entirely possible that no one ever called him Petros.
There were more than 12 apostles. After Judas Iscariot's death, St. Matthias was chosen to replace Judas. See Acts 1. Moreover, in I Corinthians, St. Paul says that Jesus appeared (after his resurrection) to both the twelve and to "all the apostles". I Corinthians 15:5-7. The phrasing indicates that there were more apostles than just the 12. I'm curious how many there were!
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Post by Mercy for All on Oct 27, 2021 18:55:57 GMT
"Thomas" is a nickname, meaning "twin". The Bible never mentions who he was the twin of, nor what his given name is. Scholars' best guess is that his name was Judas.
St. Peter may have never been addressed as "Peter" in his whole life. His given name was Simon. Simon and Jesus spoke Aramaic, an Afro-Asiatic Semitic language closely related to Hebrew. Jesus gave Simon the nickname "Kefa", meaning "rock" in Aramaic. The New Testament was written in Greek, an Indo-European language not related at all to Aramaic or Hebrew. The nickname "Kefa" was translated into Greek as "Petros", also meaning "rock", and that nickname came thru Latin into English as "Peter". It is entirely possible that no one ever called him Petros.
There were more than 12 apostles. After Judas Iscariot's death, St. Matthias was chosen to replace Judas. See Acts 1. Moreover, in I Corinthians, St. Paul says that Jesus appeared (after his resurrection) to both the twelve and to "all the apostles". I Corinthians 15:5-7. The phrasing indicates that there were more apostles than just the 12. I'm curious how many there were!
I feel for Thomas. Not just because I identify to some extent with his skepticism post-resurrection, but that we have changed his nickname from "Twin" to "Doubting." |
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Post by Running Deer on Oct 28, 2021 22:36:40 GMT
I remember congregations chuckling and snickering at St. Thomas's disbelief, but I always thought, "Well yeah, how many people have come back from the dead? I'd've been pretty skeptical!"
In completely unrelated news, my Sunday School teachers never particularly liked me.
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Post by Mercy for All on Oct 29, 2021 16:29:48 GMT
I remember congregations chuckling and snickering at St. Thomas's disbelief, but I always thought, "Well yeah, how many people have come back from the dead? I'd've been pretty skeptical!" In completely unrelated news, my Sunday School teachers never particularly liked me. That's the kind of kid I always liked in my Sunday School. It's kind of the like the congregation scoffing at the recalcitrant Israelites murmuring in the wilderness...like, if you hadn't eaten in a while, you wouldn't be grumpy and complaining? That's the irony of a congregation that "isn't self-righteous like those other people." |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 22:41:21 GMT
Well, then Jesus was elitist since only twelve apostles were invited to the last supper including the traitor which means that it's better to be a traitor of high rank than a second class devout...
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Post by elmerfudd on Nov 12, 2021 15:08:23 GMT
Well, then Jesus was elitist since only twelve apostles were invited to the last supper including the traitor which means that it's better to be a traitor of high rank than a second class devout... I dunno. Read a little further about the traitor and you might change your mind about that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 17:34:11 GMT
Well, then Jesus was elitist since only twelve apostles were invited to the last supper including the traitor which means that it's better to be a traitor of high rank than a second class devout... I dunno. Read a little further about the traitor and you might change your mind about that. It's like talking to a parrot... |
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