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Post by stugatze on Aug 4, 2020 18:47:40 GMT
No Reparations, Time For Blacks To Be Responsible, Instead! By: StuGatze 8/4/2020 As I have stated before about so called, 'black reparations' in previous thread topics, .. I am totally against it because, nobody alive today ever went through slavery in America, therefore, .. why should anybody, just because they are black, be paid reparations for something they never went through and/or personally experienced? And .. we should remember that since at least the late 1950's and early 1960's ... almost everything has been geared to help blacks succeed, especially since about 1965 to the present, .. along with free college and university educations, section 8 housing, direct cash welfare payments, aside from regular welfare checks, food-stamps, EBT cards, medical cards, minority business loans, free school lunch programs, free school breakfasts, and in some areas, .. even free school suppers, and hell, .. even Obama phones, during the Obongo  years, as well as magnum size affirmative action programs, distributed by the usual guilt-ridden foolish and irrational democrat party white liberals! Over the decades ... the goody little well-intentioned white liberals, along with those in the NOW totally corrupt liberal news media, .. love portraying blacks as ALWAYS the VICTIM, regardless if the black victim got what he deserved, .. such times, the corrupt liberal news media will regularly NOT give the WHOLE story.. if it might undermine the so called, 'innocence' of the phony black victim. How odd, but, clearly true, .... that in the 1920's, 30's, 40's, 50's and into the early 1960's, .. MOST prisons in America were comprised of white men, .. NOT black men, like today.-- So what changed?
Over the course of the last near 50 years and thereabouts, .. blacks have NOT had to be 'responsible' for their actions,... mostly because, democrat politicians have wanted to curry favor from them in exchange for democrat party votes, so they made it increasingly easy to collect welfare, food-stamps, section 8 housing and a whole array of free things that has slowly destroyed the black family unit, .. because, the welfare system has made it easy for only one parent to run a family, while the black father is out having fun impregnating other women, or committing crime, and being even more irresponsible by not staying home and being a father. Of course .. modern liberal educators likely will not link black fatherless homes with poor grades for black students and/or high school drop out rates, along with black teen pregnancy, and increases in sexual immorality and STD rates which was not all that common with most black families in the 1930's, 40's, and 50's etc.
The GOOD news is that blacks THEMSELVES can IMPROVE their very OWN lot, .. by being RESPONSIBLE, not engaging in violence, savagery, or crime, .. and then crying 'RACISM' when they are caught after the fact. FACT -- if white America truly was as racist as the lying liberal progressives and their filthy liberal news media like to say, .. I guarantee you that Obama NEVER ever would have become President, and NEVER would have won reelection in 2012. Blacks ... could create great outcomes for themselves by being responsible, .. staying in school, respecting their teachers, not engaging in violence or crime, respecting police officers and respecting the law, and honestly working rather than accepting the welfare roles that are so damn easy to acquire, .. all courtesy of the goody little white democrat party liberal who loves taxes more than he loves God, so.. the white liberal can implement even more types of welfare to dole out to blacks, .. so that blacks feel permanently indebted to the democrat party, mostly because, the democrat party want blacks to be DEPENDENT upon them, .. instead of on themselves. I say, .. blacks should try being more responsible for the NEXT 50 years, instead of HANDING OUT REPARATION MONEY .. lets give RESPONSIBILITY a real try, and at least the white man could save on his taxes, .. which has provided the LION's SHARE for welfare for blacks. Sure, .. it's tough to deal with the truth, .. but, the truth must be told, rather than angry white liberals screaming, ''you are a racist'', .. to those who disagree with them, and IN TIME, .. BLACKS would NOT need whitey's TAX DOLLARS to UNDERWRITE everything they get for free today, .. which is massive, along with constant false victim status, which CONTINUES the same MERRY GO ROUND that KEEPS blacks in economic, social, and moral BONDAGE they have been in for over 55 years thereabouts.  |
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Post by freonbale on Aug 4, 2020 19:41:47 GMT
What if they can't? It's just an assumption that they can. I don't know if we have any reason to believe that assumption. And what happens if they can't? Say blacks all turn over a new leaf tomorrow and start working as hard as they can in school and only marginally increase their performance, but not enough to equalize with whites and Asians? And then from that follows unequal job opportunities, incomes, and standard of living? What if that is the best they can do? Then that inequality, while doing their best, would come back around to cause the same disdain for schooling that we see today. Liberals say white racism is the cause of black problems. Conservatives say black culture is the cause of black problems. Both of these assume that blacks are inherently equal and that something causes them to have problems. But I question whether they are inherently equal and wonder what reason we have to believe they are. Ok, thedman, let's play your game.
If we go by the thoroughly debunked archetypes of ethnic intelligence that you seem to cling to, then as a white Jew, I'm the intellectual leader of the pack.
So as the most intelligent one here, by your own metric, then my opinion that your whole argument is stupid should be enough to make you realize that race does not confer intelligence.
Respond, little brain.
Freon
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Post by freonbale on Aug 4, 2020 20:33:58 GMT
Ok, thedman, let's play your game.
If we go by the thoroughly debunked archetypes of ethnic intelligence that you seem to cling to, then as a white Jew, I'm the intellectual leader of the pack.
So as the most intelligent one here, by your own metric, then my opinion that your whole argument is stupid should be enough to make you realize that race does not confer intelligence.
Respond, little brain.
Freon
Calling findings you don't like "racist" doesn't count as debunking in science. You should really take your own advice and listen to your intellectual superiors.
When you're not on top, suddenly it doesn't feel so good to be judged.
Freon
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Post by freonbale on Aug 4, 2020 20:41:26 GMT
You should really take your own advice and listen to your intellectual superiors.
When you're not on top, suddenly it doesn't feel so good to be judged.
Freon
Or maybe I should be suspicious of my intellectual superiors and make sure they don't Jew me. Yawn. Really, is that the best a mind like yours can muster?
If you are going to call blacks stupid and lazy, then at least show the intelligence to understand, by your own metric, that you are NOT the benchmark by which they are compared.
Freon
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Post by freonbale on Aug 4, 2020 20:59:15 GMT
Yawn. Really, is that the best a mind like yours can muster?
If you are going to call blacks stupid and lazy, then at least show the intelligence to understand, by your own metric, that you are NOT the benchmark by which they are compared.
Freon
I have no problem with that. And along the same lines, Asians show high intellectual ability. China is coming on strong. And China may present difficulties for the US in competition going forward. The US thus plays a dangerous game in handicapping ourselves and our people of highest potential if that potential is sacrificed in order to accommodate others of lower potential. Considering how incredibly bad our educational system is, and how little conservatives are willing to pay to make it better, seems disingenuous for you to bring up the knowledge and intellectual disparity between us and our adversaries.
I consider education to be a matter of national defense. And listening to many of the conservatives in here (Stu, Abe, Lomelis, etc), it's clear that there is little love for spending defense funds on anything but guns.
Freon
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Post by freonbale on Aug 4, 2020 21:20:56 GMT
Considering how incredibly bad our educational system is, and how little conservatives are willing to pay to make it better, seems disingenuous for you to bring up the knowledge and intellectual disparity between us and our adversaries.
I consider education to be a matter of national defense. And listening to many of the conservatives in here (Stu, Abe, Lomelis, etc), it's clear that there is little love for spending defense funds on anything but guns.
Freon
See, that's interesting. I wonder what makes you think our education system is so incredibly bad. I've discussed this on LNF before. If you saw what I said then, you know my argument. We are certainly told that our education system is bad, and that we need to change it. But that's precisely what I questioned above: whether we should change our education system in a way that sacrifices our people with greatest potential in order to accommodate our people with least potential. I would also put forward here that a 10-point increase in the potential of our highest-potential people is worth more than a similar 10-point increase in the potential of our lowest-potential people. The reason is because raising low-potential people only keeps them out of prison and puts them to work. That's a benefit, but not as great as the benefit provided by high-potential people, who are the ones who develop new ideas, technological advances, and the like. I never saw your other one, so I have no frame of reference.
My comment is based on my own matriculation through good schools, many of them private, though some public (we moved around a bit), onto college, through several graduate degrees, and then directly working in research science.
Why do we not make typing mandatory? Why is basic accounting for a household not mandatory? Why is a teaching credential for high school one of the few majors that does NOT require any science training? Why are psychiatrists not required to take psychology courses? Why are ethics courses not a requirement of medical schools or research institutions?
I could go on. I'm not impressed. Our model of teaching is antiquated, based on a system that could not possibly factor the modern technologies that are commonplace today, or the complex and competitive environment that our children will eventually have to survive and thrive in.
Someone like me has an advantage, because of my background and success, I will mitigate the failings of the system, but really, all students should at least have access to the potential tools for success. If they don't work for it, it should not be given to them, but to not even make it available, especially in lower income areas, is a denial of equal education.
Freon
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Post by stugatze on Aug 5, 2020 1:49:48 GMT
Yawn. Really, is that the best a mind like yours can muster? If you are going to call blacks stupid and lazy, then at least show the intelligence to understand, by your own metric, that you are NOT the benchmark by which they are compared.
Freon
I have no problem with that. And along the same lines, Asians show high intellectual ability. China is coming on strong. And China may present difficulties for the US in competition going forward. The US thus plays a dangerous game in handicapping ourselves and our people of highest potential if that potential is sacrificed in order to accommodate others of lower potential. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dear Dman, .. you might as well forget trying to get through the mind of a pwogwessive little liberal , as they desire to believe that everybody is the exact same, .. which is exactly why the dirty left DEMAND equal outcomes for everybody, .. so flawed are their concepts and their thinking! |
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years, as well as magnum size affirmative action programs, distributed by the usual guilt-ridden foolish and irrational democrat party white liberals!
