bama beau
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Post by bama beau on Sept 26, 2021 9:16:09 GMT
This is a great one. Draco was the original Athenian lawgiver who: 1) Attained that status via the democratic system of his day. 2) Replaced customary law with written law/s enforced by courts which were sworn to uphold those laws above all other precedent. Try this one: ALCATRAZ
Um, you left out the key reason why his name is used as the root of the term to denote harsh treatment: Draco dictated very stringent punishments for even the slightest of infractions.
However this sort of shows you didn't Google it; good.
I guess I thought anyone reading this would make the connection. As to Draco, I've more than once wondered if his laws were considered harsh because they were harsher than the norm, or rather because they were enforced. |
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 26, 2021 9:37:55 GMT
Um, you left out the key reason why his name is used as the root of the term to denote harsh treatment: Draco dictated very stringent punishments for even the slightest of infractions.
However this sort of shows you didn't Google it; good.
I guess I thought anyone reading this would make the connection. As to Draco, I've more than once wondered if his laws were considered harsh because they were harsher than the norm, or rather because they were enforced.
Actually from what I've read Draco recommended the death penalty for such things a petty theft.
He was a lawyer scribe, so he didn't have the power to enforce the penalties he recommended.
They were still Draconian.
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Post by Mercy for All on Sept 26, 2021 23:18:22 GMT
As I recall, the word Alcatraz has something to do with birds. Not sure, you might be thinking of "the birdman of Alcatraz," a long-time prisoner who kept birds as pets. |
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 27, 2021 1:00:32 GMT
As I recall, the word Alcatraz has something to do with birds. Not sure, you might be thinking of "the birdman of Alcatraz," a long-time prisoner who kept birds as pets.
No, I wasn't thinking of that movie, although it is coincidental.
Sources vary, but Alcatraz roughly translates in Spanish and/or Portuguese to Pelican or Albatross. I'm not aware of albatross ever being spotted on Alcatraz, but anything is possible. Pelicans, maybe. IDK.
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 27, 2021 1:02:44 GMT
Lots of seagulls on Alcatraz. I seen 'em.
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 27, 2021 1:31:26 GMT
Also, according to some sources, the name Alcatraz (in Spanish version) was originally meant for a much larger, more verdant island in SF Bay. That island now forms the mid-bay anchorage for the Bay Bridge, which runs between SF and Oakland. It was later named Yerba Buena, ostensibly because there were to be found some edible herbs there. One source attributes the naming error to bad map reading. IDK. Besides maybe meaning pelican or albatross, the Alcatraz in its original tongue can also mean "strange bird". The native Californians referred to it as White Rock, because of the copious amounts of white guano on it. Something for which seagulls are notorious.
(Bay Bridge and Yerba Buena Island in the distance, and further on, the East shore of SF Bay (Oakland and/or Alameda))
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