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Post by stugatze on Aug 2, 2020 11:32:59 GMT
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The savages are becoming increasingly more 'savage' with those of the human race, .. or perhaps most Americans have noticed, .... that America is witnessing it from the BLACK LIVES MATTER feral beasts and the ANTIFA feral beasts also.
That big fat black sow .. didn't have to do what she did, .. I hope the cops find her, and the victim presses assault charges!
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Post by crepe05 on Aug 2, 2020 12:07:04 GMT
I imagine that the woman assaulted will be more than willing to press charges. I don't know if the assault was made by someone in Antifa or in Black Lives Matter. It wouldn't surprise me tremendously if it was a person in one of those two organizations, but it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't. What we do know is that the suspected assaulter is a fairly large black woman. It's best just to go with that.
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Post by crepe05 on Aug 2, 2020 12:53:56 GMT
The black women that I know are not more prone to violence than the white women. I don't believe it's actually a racial issue. I believe it's more sociological.
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Post by MojoJojo on Aug 2, 2020 13:20:26 GMT
Black Karen!
LOL!
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Post by crepe05 on Aug 2, 2020 13:44:21 GMT
Do you think the physical assault is laughable? I don't.
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Post by MojoJojo on Aug 2, 2020 13:51:22 GMT
Do you think the physical assault is laughable? I don't. No, but I did think my play on the Karen meme was amusing, so there's that! |
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Post by crepe05 on Aug 2, 2020 13:54:32 GMT
I wondered if that was what you thought was funny. No accounting for some people's taste in humor.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 2, 2020 21:37:52 GMT
I watched the video three times.
It's apparent the assault was not unprovoked. The old lady with the cane swung it and jabbed it at the other lady, and it was only then that the other lady grabbed the cane and swung/twisted it away, causing the old lady to fall. I would say both were guilty of assault.
And the black woman was wearing a face mask by then. Apparently what is shown in the video was not their first interaction. What happened before elsewhere in the store, and what words were exchanged, is at this point unknown.
I would say they both are Karens.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 21:43:23 GMT
Do you think the physical assault is laughable? I don't. He does if it is on a white person. Now, if that white lady had been wearing an Obama, Clinton or AOC shirt, then they'd just look the other way and pretend it doesn't happen. After all, even if you are down for the struggle, if you are white you still deserve it. Kind of like the black dudes in Staples shirts that seemed to refuse to help her. I would like to hear the audio. I bet there is a lot more to this story. |
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Post by MojoJojo on Aug 2, 2020 23:10:57 GMT
Do you think the physical assault is laughable? I don't. He does if it is on a white person. Now, if that white lady had been wearing an Obama, Clinton or AOC shirt, then they'd just look the other way and pretend it doesn't happen. After all, even if you are down for the struggle, if you are white you still deserve it. Kind of like the black dudes in Staples shirts that seemed to refuse to help her. I do? Wow! I'm a pretty bad guy! No wait, do you have a source that backs your assertion I'd respond to the altered hypothetical in that way? No doubt there's more to the story. All I saw was the black lady assault the white lady. |
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Post by MojoJojo on Aug 2, 2020 23:13:05 GMT
I watched the video three times. It's apparent the assault was not unprovoked. The old lady with the cane swung it and jabbed it at the other lady, and it was only then that the other lady grabbed the cane and swung/twisted it away, causing the old lady to fall. I would say both were guilty of assault. And the black woman was wearing a face mask by then. Apparently what is shown in the video was not their first interaction. What happened before elsewhere in the store, and what words were exchanged, is at this point unknown. I would say they both are Karens. Black Karen crossed the line though. Assuming white Karen was mouthing off, that still doesn't give black Karen the right to escalate to physical assault. |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 2, 2020 23:34:25 GMT
I watched the video three times. It's apparent the assault was not unprovoked. The old lady with the cane swung it and jabbed it at the other lady, and it was only then that the other lady grabbed the cane and swung/twisted it away, causing the old lady to fall. I would say both were guilty of assault. And the black woman was wearing a face mask by then. Apparently what is shown in the video was not their first interaction. What happened before elsewhere in the store, and what words were exchanged, is at this point unknown. I would say they both are Karens. Black Karen crossed the line though. Assuming white Karen was mouthing off, that still doesn't give black Karen the right to escalate to physical assault. Ah, but white Karen was the one to initial physicality, by raising her cane and jabbing at black Karen with it.
Watch it again, carefully.
Now I would allow that the store employees were partially at fault here, for not stepping in and defusing the situation earlier. And even when white Karen fell down and pleaded for help, they seemed to ignore her.
It's possible the store had a policy for employees not to interfere with customer disputes. In which case the store was negligent.
In other words, there are no winners here, only losers.
Avoid Staples.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 23:48:58 GMT
He does if it is on a white person. Now, if that white lady had been wearing an Obama, Clinton or AOC shirt, then they'd just look the other way and pretend it doesn't happen. After all, even if you are down for the struggle, if you are white you still deserve it. Kind of like the black dudes in Staples shirts that seemed to refuse to help her. I do? Wow! I'm a pretty bad guy! No wait, do you have a source that backs your assertion I'd respond to the altered hypothetical in that way? No doubt there's more to the story. All I saw was the black lady assault the white lady. I'm just using the left's techniques. I have been doing it a lot this week. For some reason the left doesn't see it as credible. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 23:49:28 GMT
Black Karen crossed the line though. Assuming white Karen was mouthing off, that still doesn't give black Karen the right to escalate to physical assault. Ah, but white Karen was the one to initial physicality, by raising her cane and jabbing at black Karen with it.
Watch it again, carefully.
Now I would allow that the store employees were partially at fault here, for not stepping in and defusing the situation earlier. And even when white Karen fell down and pleaded for help, they seemed to ignore her.
It's possible the store had a policy for employees not to interfere with customer disputes. In which case the store was negligent.
In other words, there are no winners here, only losers.
Avoid Staples.
In other words, she's white so you want so badly for her to deserve it. |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 3, 2020 0:43:55 GMT
Shouldn't the fact that she was clearly older and had to use a cane be pause for thought to begin with? Update: Just watched it again. Not true. At about the 6 or 7 second mark you can see the girl touched the old woman first and the older woman turned and poked in the air at the girl. No initiated contact made with the cane until the girl tried to swat at it. The older woman never poked her. She stayed put. Watch the younger girl's right hand at the 9 or 10 second mark. She reaches inside and swats the cane away.
Nope. I didn't see that the black woman contacted first. She was waving her finger; obviously there was a previous confrontation outside of this video that started the whole thing. There was no contact until the white lady lifted her cane up and swung it at the black woman. Just pointing a weapon at someone is often construed as assault. This was the first assault.
The other question is that if the white lady needed a cane, shouldn't she have been leaning on it and not swinging it around as a weapon?
Mind you I don't excuse the black lady for grabbing the cane with enough force that it caused the white lady to fall. Like I said, both ladies were guilty of assault here, pending revelation of the previous interaction which we don't see in this video.
And the store may be at fault for not trying to diffuse the situation, and for failing to enforce the face mask rule if such a rule exists for that location.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 3, 2020 0:51:40 GMT
Also, the white lady is 54. That, in my opinion, is not elderly. However she was apparently somewhat disabled, as evidenced by her cane. But she lost some sympathy by trying to use her cane as a weapon rather than to help with her disability.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 3, 2020 0:55:04 GMT
Ah, but white Karen was the one to initial physicality, by raising her cane and jabbing at black Karen with it.
Watch it again, carefully.
Now I would allow that the store employees were partially at fault here, for not stepping in and defusing the situation earlier. And even when white Karen fell down and pleaded for help, they seemed to ignore her.
It's possible the store had a policy for employees not to interfere with customer disputes. In which case the store was negligent.
In other words, there are no winners here, only losers.
Avoid Staples.
In other words, she's white so you want so badly for her to deserve it.
No.
But do you realize the same sort of below the belt attack could be turned on you? That you wanted so badly for the black lady to deserve punishment for being black.
Like I said, both these ladies were at fault. Threatening someone with a cane is assault.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 3, 2020 1:09:38 GMT
Need to add: Grabbing that cane with enough force to cause the holder to fall and be injured, is battery.
As for the store employees, I noticed that none were visible when the altercation started. When the lady fell one came out of the back office and looked to be on his cell phone, probably calling the police and/or management. Another one came out but it looked like his view of the fallen woman was blocked. And, again, the store probably has a policy of social distancing which means that unless you are security, you don't get close enough to quarreling customers to restrain them.
Furthermore, I noticed two white ladies with full views of the altercation who did absolutely nothing; they just walked away.
I don't know what I could have done, but probably I would have gone over to the fallen lady to see how she was and made sure help was on the way, if not helping her myself.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 1:13:38 GMT
In other words, she's white so you want so badly for her to deserve it.
No.
But do you realize the same sort of below the belt attack could be turned on you? That you wanted so badly for the black lady to deserve punishment for being black.
Like I said, both these ladies were at fault. Threatening someone with a cane is assault.
You could try that, but my first post was about how there has to be more to the story and I'd like to hear the audio. So, no, I didn't support either person. I only abmonished the employees for not helping the woman up after the fact. So go for it if you like. You'll just be your usual level of foolishness. |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 3, 2020 3:51:49 GMT
No.
But do you realize the same sort of below the belt attack could be turned on you? That you wanted so badly for the black lady to deserve punishment for being black.
Like I said, both these ladies were at fault. Threatening someone with a cane is assault.
You could try that, but my first post was about how there has to be more to the story and I'd like to hear the audio. So, no, I didn't support either person. I only abmonished the employees for not helping the woman up after the fact. So go for it if you like. You'll just be your usual level of foolishness.
Don't you ever get tired of lying?
What you said, and what I responded to, was: "In other words, she's white so you want so badly for her to deserve it."
I don't think we need any more evidence of your foolish racism.
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