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Post by rabbitreborn on Jun 13, 2021 15:10:05 GMT
Recognizing that massive changes to the way the election was executed was inevitably going to lead to people claiming fraud is not apologizing. Yes and these people suspecting malfeasance rightfully took advantage of every avenue available to them to bring evidence of fraud to light.. Through challenges and recounts they found nothing that would change the outcome.. Does it seem to you that data doesn't matter to these people.. Do you believe the allegations that the Trump administration colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election was an attempt to undermine the democratic processes of America? Or totally different? Easy.. Totally different. There is evidence of collusion .. There isn't evidence of sufficient discrepancies that would impact the election. 1. Yes. It seems to me that data doesn’t matter to those “people”, either. 2. I like how the former has a pretty low bar, in that there was any evidence at all of the non-crime “collusion”, but with election fraud it must be evidence that there was “sufficient discrepancies that would impact the election”. A much higher bar. There is evidence of fraud. madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/out-of-3-3-million-votes-cast-27-referred-for-voter-fraud-in-presidential-election/article_6da01373-c33c-5649-88db-7bc4f656a4b6.htmlChange the level of evidence required, and you’ll fool some people. They’re both shit. The Russian collusion and the QAnon. One just has the support of CNN and MSNBC and The NY Times. |
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Post by thecitizen on Jun 13, 2021 15:13:56 GMT
CRTs end game is socialism and ending capitalism which it views as an outcome of racism. It teaches everything about America from capitalism to the nuclear family is all based on white western racist ideals. For me, There is no middle ground. There will be no compromise. I fundamentally disagree with 100 percent of its teachings as the goals are reprehensible. Answer me this, without slavery, would this country ever exist? |
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Post by RWB on Jun 13, 2021 15:15:40 GMT
CRTs end game is socialism and ending capitalism which it views as an outcome of racism. It teaches everything about America from capitalism to the nuclear family is all based on white western racist ideals. For me, There is no middle ground. There will be no compromise. I fundamentally disagree with 100 percent of its teachings as the goals are reprehensible. Answer me this, without slavery, would this country ever exist? What a stupid question of course it would have |
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Post by thecitizen on Jun 13, 2021 15:46:12 GMT
Answer me this, without slavery, would this country ever exist? What a stupid question of course it would have How? Who would have done the labor to make it an economic power? |
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Post by petep on Jun 13, 2021 15:46:32 GMT
CRTs end game is socialism and ending capitalism which it views as an outcome of racism. It teaches everything about America from capitalism to the nuclear family is all based on white western racist ideals. For me, There is no middle ground. There will be no compromise. I fundamentally disagree with 100 percent of its teachings as the goals are reprehensible. Answer me this, without slavery, would this country ever exist? Well, the southern democrats at the time said without slavery we would have no tobacco or cotton industry. Last I checked we do have tobacco and cotton. Oh, and no slavery. The notion that without slavery there would be no America is so absurd. At the time it was a legal form of labor. Blacks were practicing it long before the first whites showed up in Africa do they still practice it today. Arguably slavery set us back decades. |
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Post by thecitizen on Jun 13, 2021 15:49:44 GMT
Answer me this, without slavery, would this country ever exist? Well, the southern democrats at the time said without slavery we would have no tobacco or cotton industry. Last I checked we do have tobacco and cotton. Oh, and no slavery. The notion that without slavery there would be no America is so absurd. At the time it was a legal form of labor. Blacks were practicing it long before the first whites showed up in Africa do they still practice it today. Arguably slavery set us back decades. So are you comparing the way we grow and harvest tobacco and cotton today to the way we did it in the 17 and 18 hundreds? Yeah forcing people to work for free was a legal form of labor. Don't make it right. |
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Post by petep on Jun 13, 2021 15:55:31 GMT
Never said it was right. Can you think of anything today that is legal that should be illegal. In the future when it is illegal should we jail you for using it in the last.
Or how about many pesticides that are banned in Europe. But people all over the states dump those brutally harmful chemicals on their lawns and gardens and farms.
Your morally superiority complex is what is laughable wads.
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Post by thor on Jun 13, 2021 15:56:21 GMT
I already responded to your post claiming comparison. There were not "massive changes to the way the election was executed", and even if you keep jumping up and down about it it won't make it so. The major difference was people used mail-in voting rather than in-person in many cases. And.....there was no fraud. Full stop. The effort to delegitimize the US democratic process began well before the election. It continues now. . The numbers of people who voted mail-in and in advance makes it a very different election in terms of execution. “There was no fraud” is demonstrably untrue. You’re just wrong. There was fraud from both Republicans and Democrats as there always is. “Full stop”. Side question: Do you believe the allegations that the Trump administration colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election was an attempt to undermine the democratic processes of America? Or totally different? There was no Trump Administration in 2016, dumbass.  |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jun 13, 2021 15:57:31 GMT
The numbers of people who voted mail-in and in advance makes it a very different election in terms of execution. “There was no fraud” is demonstrably untrue. You’re just wrong. There was fraud from both Republicans and Democrats as there always is. “Full stop”. Side question: Do you believe the allegations that the Trump administration colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election was an attempt to undermine the democratic processes of America? Or totally different? There was not Trump Administration in 2016, dumbass. Omg I feel so dumb this is really important you’re the smartest and this definitely matters and you’re smart holy shit |
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Post by petep on Jun 13, 2021 15:59:41 GMT
Rabbit gets another slam on the idiot crowd.
Remember trumps cages that were actually Obama’s cages
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Post by Fiddler on Jun 13, 2021 16:35:08 GMT
Well, the southern democrats at the time said without slavery we would have no tobacco or cotton industry. Last I checked we do have tobacco and cotton. Oh, and no slavery. Conservative Southern Democrats, that is.. .. And indeed a dishonest person WOULD fail to mention that powered farm equipment supplanted manual labor in tobacco and cotton production. The last time you checked did you notice that ?.. At the time it was a legal form of labor. Well.. That fixes everything doesn't it? Disgusting that you'd let those that perpetrated the holocaust off so easily. As you say.. It was legal. Arguably slavery set us back decades. What an idiotic thing to say.. It would take someone tragically ignorant of U.S. history to try an foist such a ridiculous claim on everyone.. Then your illiteracy of Civil War era ideologies is the stuff of legend..
With cash crops of tobacco, cotton and sugar cane, America’s southern states became the economic engine of the burgeoning nation. Their fuel of choice? Human slavery.
If the Confederacy had been a separate nation, it would have ranked as the fourth richest in the world at the start of the Civil War. The slave economy had been very good to American prosperity. By the start of the war, the South was producing 75 percent of the world’s cotton and creating more millionaires per capita in the Mississippi River valley than anywhere in the nation. Link |
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Post by Fiddler on Jun 13, 2021 16:37:55 GMT
Remember trumps cages that were actually Obama’s cages
Remember Trump mandating the separation of families.. .
Pepperidge Farm remembers ..
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Post by thor on Jun 13, 2021 18:08:50 GMT
Fobbit Rabbit gets another slammed by his betters on the idiot crowd. Fixed. |
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Post by VYPR on Jun 13, 2021 22:24:43 GMT
I already responded to your post claiming comparison. There were not "massive changes to the way the election was executed", and even if you keep jumping up and down about it it won't make it so. The major difference was people used mail-in voting rather than in-person in many cases. And.....there was no fraud. Full stop. The effort to delegitimize the US democratic process began well before the election. It continues now. . The numbers of people who voted mail-in and in advance makes it a very different election in terms of execution. “There was no fraud” is demonstrably untrue. You’re just wrong. There was fraud from both Republicans and Democrats as there always is. “Full stop”. Side question: Do you believe the allegations that the Trump administration colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election was an attempt to undermine the democratic processes of America? Or totally different? I already said: Further, there has been ZERO evidence of any fraud or bad actions beyond the typical low-level churn in any election. So either you can't read or you have run out of anything to defend yourself with. Your attempt to change the topic to Russia shows this. Gotta pivot from the indefensible! . |
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Post by petep on Jun 13, 2021 23:19:32 GMT
So why are The places in Africa where black on black slavery continues to present day thriving?
America ended slavery. In many places it continues.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jun 13, 2021 23:22:40 GMT
You also wrote this in a post. And.....there was no fraud. Full stop. . I’m not taking this out of context. You said there was “no fraud. Full stop.” Note the “full stop”. What does “full stop” mean to you when said or written after a very specific assertion? |
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Post by VYPR on Jun 13, 2021 23:46:48 GMT
You also wrote this in a post. And.....there was no fraud. Full stop. . I’m not taking this out of context. You said there was “no fraud. Full stop.” Note the “full stop”. What does “full stop” mean to you when said or written after a very specific assertion?  because I had already stated: Further, there has been ZERO evidence of any fraud or bad actions beyond the typical low-level churn in any election. It isn't rocket science. Notice "ZERO" along with "beyond the typical low-level churn in any election", meaning fraud on a level that would have any impact on the outcome of the election, not some dipshit Trump supporter writing in "Trump" for his mentally impaired grandmother. Is that really all you have? Nitpicking about semantics and capitalization? . |
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 14, 2021 0:19:33 GMT
You also wrote this in a post. I’m not taking this out of context. You said there was “no fraud. Full stop.” Note the “full stop”. What does “full stop” mean to you when said or written after a very specific assertion? because I had already stated: Further, there has been ZERO evidence of any fraud or bad actions beyond the typical low-level churn in any election. It isn't rocket science. Notice "ZERO" along with "beyond the typical low-level churn in any election", meaning fraud on a level that would have any impact on the outcome of the election, not some dipshit Trump supporter writing in "Trump" for his mentally impaired grandmother. Is that really all you have? Nitpicking about semantics and capitalization?
That's about all Fuckit ever has.
Along with his fake outrage.
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Post by petep on Jun 14, 2021 15:42:06 GMT
so now that covid is under control and places are opening back up we can end the massive last minutre changes that allowed rampant mail in voting...and since it had no impact, ending it and going to the standard voting processes should be no issue, right?
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Post by oldtrapper on Jun 14, 2021 16:53:59 GMT
Never said it was right. Can you think of anything today that is legal that should be illegal. In the future when it is illegal should we jail you for using it in the last. Or how about many pesticides that are banned in Europe. But people all over the states dump those brutally harmful chemicals on their lawns and gardens and farms. Your morally superiority complex is what is laughable wads. The question was, and you wish all to ignore, would the US exist if not for the slavery that capitalism gave to America. You would be hard pressed to find any sizable plantation that was not built on slave labor. Likewise, you would be hard pressed to find any industry, including the railroads, that was not built on slave labor. For 200 years this country enjoyed the benefits of slavery, and even now a certain segment wishes to continue that practice with "slave wages". People with low IQ's whine and cry about the threat of "socialism". However, it is just that ideology that saved this country from the ravages of "conservatism", and its relative "capitalism". |
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