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Post by Mercy for All on May 4, 2021 13:40:06 GMT
Claim 1: Noah put examples of every animal on his Ark to survive a world-wide flood.
Some people have a problem with this claim because to fit every kind of animal alive on earth today "there are too many animals to fit on the Ark." But Noah didn't need "every kind of dog"—just a "prototype" of every animal, so there would be fewer than you think, they could be babies, they could be in hibernation, etc.
Claim 2: The Flood laid down most (or all?) of the fossils we find today. According to a YEC friend of mine, most of those went extinct after the Flood so we no longer see them alive today (everything from Eohippus to Ankylosaurs to giant 3-toed sloths, etc.).
Okay...but there are far more "kinds of animals" in the fossil record than are alive in the world today. So if Noah put every kind of animal on the Ark, including all those that went extinct and whose fossils were laid down by the Flood, he would have had many, many more kinds of animals on the Ark than are alive today.
How could we resolve this problem?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 20:37:06 GMT
Babies, huh? Who would raise these babies? Who would ensure that for every couple of foxes there are several couples of rabbits, who would jump-start an equilibrium on a planetary level? Did Noah (sp?) have billions of people to help him in his task??? That may not even be enough!!!!
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Post by FEZZILLA on May 5, 2021 2:42:28 GMT
Claim 1: Noah put examples of every animal on his Ark to survive a world-wide flood. Some people have a problem with this claim because to fit every kind of animal alive on earth today "there are too many animals to fit on the Ark." But Noah didn't need "every kind of dog"—just a "prototype" of every animal, so there would be fewer than you think, they could be babies, they could be in hibernation, etc. Claim 2: The Flood laid down most (or all?) of the fossils we find today. According to a YEC friend of mine, most of those went extinct after the Flood so we no longer see them alive today (everything from Eohippus to Ankylosaurs to giant 3-toed sloths, etc.). Okay...but there are far more "kinds of animals" in the fossil record than are alive in the world today. So if Noah put every kind of animal on the Ark, including all those that went extinct and whose fossils were laid down by the Flood, he would have had many, many more kinds of animals on the Ark than are alive today. How could we resolve this problem? Since the Flood, the wild kingdom has mass produced, cross bred, and many new variations of come about since the Flood. Nobody disputes micro-change. Darwin didn't preach micro-change. He preached macro-evolution. That is what is disputed.
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Post by Mercy for All on May 5, 2021 3:08:16 GMT
Claim 1: Noah put examples of every animal on his Ark to survive a world-wide flood. Some people have a problem with this claim because to fit every kind of animal alive on earth today "there are too many animals to fit on the Ark." But Noah didn't need "every kind of dog"—just a "prototype" of every animal, so there would be fewer than you think, they could be babies, they could be in hibernation, etc. Claim 2: The Flood laid down most (or all?) of the fossils we find today. According to a YEC friend of mine, most of those went extinct after the Flood so we no longer see them alive today (everything from Eohippus to Ankylosaurs to giant 3-toed sloths, etc.). Okay...but there are far more "kinds of animals" in the fossil record than are alive in the world today. So if Noah put every kind of animal on the Ark, including all those that went extinct and whose fossils were laid down by the Flood, he would have had many, many more kinds of animals on the Ark than are alive today. How could we resolve this problem? Since the Flood, the wild kingdom has mass produced, cross bred, and many new variations of come about since the Flood. Nobody disputes micro-change. Darwin didn't preach micro-change. He preached macro-evolution. That is what is disputed. View AttachmentYou've missed or deliberately ignored the claims. There are more kinds animals in the fossil record than there are today. Were there samples of all of these on the Ark in addition to the prototypes of extant animals?
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Post by FEZZILLA on May 5, 2021 19:50:32 GMT
Since the Flood, the wild kingdom has mass produced, cross bred, and many new variations of come about since the Flood. Nobody disputes micro-change. Darwin didn't preach micro-change. He preached macro-evolution. That is what is disputed. View AttachmentYou've missed or deliberately ignored the claims. There are more kinds animals in the fossil record than there are today. Were there samples of all of these on the Ark in addition to the prototypes of extant animals? The Flood didn't happen right after creation. There were 1700--1800 years of life on earth before the Flood. That's more than enough time for micro-changes. The wild kingdom had the whole earth to thrive in. Humanity would have been numerous but nothing like our population today.
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Post by Mercy for All on May 5, 2021 21:40:26 GMT
You've missed or deliberately ignored the claims. There are more kinds animals in the fossil record than there are today. Were there samples of all of these on the Ark in addition to the prototypes of extant animals? The Flood didn't happen right after creation. There were 1700--1800 years of life on earth before the Flood. That's more than enough time for micro-changes. The wild kingdom had the whole earth to thrive in. Humanity would have been numerous but nothing like our population today. You've completely missed the point. Was there room on the Ark for the prototypes of every animal that exists today AND every animal represented in the fossil record?
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Post by FEZZILLA on May 6, 2021 0:32:22 GMT
The Flood didn't happen right after creation. There were 1700--1800 years of life on earth before the Flood. That's more than enough time for micro-changes. The wild kingdom had the whole earth to thrive in. Humanity would have been numerous but nothing like our population today. You've completely missed the point. Was there room on the Ark for the prototypes of every animal that exists today AND every animal represented in the fossil record? First, not every living thing was on the ark or needed to be on the ark. Secondly, what we see today is not what there was back then. You say prototypes which would have been the originals which branch out into all the diversity of species today. Again, nobody denies micro-changes. But all species remain the same kind since they were created. Darwinism teaches what is biologically impossible which is the mystical belief that one kind of animal can macro-evolve into a completely different kind. For example, evolutionists say the T-rex evolved into a chicken. Well this is insane considering the major differences between birds and reptiles. But evolutionists love fantasy.
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Post by atreyu on May 6, 2021 1:53:08 GMT
You've completely missed the point. Was there room on the Ark for the prototypes of every animal that exists today AND every animal represented in the fossil record? First, not every living thing was on the ark or needed to be on the ark. Secondly, what we see today is not what there was back then. You say prototypes which would have been the originals which branch out into all the diversity of species today. Again, nobody denies micro-changes. But all species remain the same kind since they were created. Darwinism teaches what is biologically impossible which is the mystical belief that one kind of animal can macro-evolve into a completely different kind. For example, evolutionists say the T-rex evolved into a chicken. Well this is insane considering the major differences between birds and reptiles. But evolutionists love fantasy.
In other words, no.
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Post by Mercy for All on May 6, 2021 13:34:36 GMT
You've completely missed the point. Was there room on the Ark for the prototypes of every animal that exists today AND every animal represented in the fossil record? First, not every living thing was on the ark or needed to be on the ark. Seems scripture says that every living thing was...or at least, land-dwelling animals. No? There WERE MORE ANIMALS in the fossil record than today. MORE! That's my point. I don't give a flying fart about the diversification of species. If the fossils were laid down in the Flood, WHERE DID ALL THOSE ANIMALS FIT on the Ark!?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 17:14:14 GMT
All of this about a text that most Christians admit is nothing but bullshit...
Sure there are plenty of religions out there with flood stories... Because countless villages have been drowned by overflowing rivers... Just as other villages having been set on fire by lava gave birth to fantastic stories about god and fire and brimstone or whatever!!! You can count on people to distort facts beyond recognition. that's what people do, it's a well known sociological fact, the people who tell stories distort them and without written support, these stories will quickly lose all factuality.
YOUR BIBLICAL CRAP IS ONLY ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT!!!
Stop being so cocky, these nothing special about your shit; it smells just as bad as anybody else's...
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