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Post by Mercy for All on Aug 3, 2020 21:12:08 GMT
Yes, I could probably pick up a guitar and play some of my favorite classical or folk pieces no problem. Just not for very long.
The violin is different. It requires muscle training to avoid sounding like a tortured cat. That could take quite a bit longer than just strumming on a six string.
Yup. Violin is great when played well. Terrible when not. And not easy. |
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Post by william on Aug 11, 2020 14:13:14 GMT
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 17, 2020 8:56:43 GMT
The secret to the rise of modern music: A=440.
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Post by Mercy for All on Aug 18, 2020 18:02:43 GMT
The secret to the rise of modern music: A=440. And the "well-tempered scale." |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 18, 2020 20:30:24 GMT
The secret to the rise of modern music: A=440. And the "well-tempered scale."
Well, not quite.
Well-temperament came about in the 17th century, before that was "mean temperament". And neither is the same as "equal temperament" which is the standard for pianos and organs today. A440 didn't become an international agreed standard until the 1930's, and even then some notable personalities (like Leonard Bernstein) liked to chose other values (like A432 or A442) for a different presumed effect. Supposedly this can be heard on recordings. On top of that, most orchestras without keyboards tend to vary significantly from A440, since they tune to an oboe and oboes are not perfectly tuned to begin with. The pitch of an orchestra tends to rise as well. As do choruses and singers.
It can be a problem. I have a clear memory of having given a note on a guitar for a choral performance, which went on for about five minutes, and then the guitar was supposed to come in. But the chorus had risen in tone enough to make the combination dissonant. I forever wondered if I had mistakenly given the wrong note at the start out of nervousness, but I was assured it wasn't my fault. My solution was just to play very softly so the problem went away, LOL. In the end it was OK, because the guitar really wasn't necessary, it was essentially a choral piece.
Equal temperament results in major thirds that are a bit off. So some tuners like to stray from equal temperament. Your mileage may vary .
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Post by Mercy for All on Aug 18, 2020 21:06:58 GMT
It can be a problem. I have a clear memory of having given a note on a guitar for a choral performance, which went on for about five minutes, and then the guitar was supposed to come in. But the chorus had risen in tone enough to make the combination dissonant. I forever wondered if I had mistakenly given the wrong note at the start out of nervousness, but I was assured it wasn't my fault. My solution was just to play very softly so the problem went away, LOL. In the end it was OK, because the guitar really wasn't necessary, it was essentially a choral piece.
Like "We Will Rock You." |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 19, 2020 1:28:28 GMT
It can be a problem. I have a clear memory of having given a note on a guitar for a choral performance, which went on for about five minutes, and then the guitar was supposed to come in. But the chorus had risen in tone enough to make the combination dissonant. I forever wondered if I had mistakenly given the wrong note at the start out of nervousness, but I was assured it wasn't my fault. My solution was just to play very softly so the problem went away, LOL. In the end it was OK, because the guitar really wasn't necessary, it was essentially a choral piece.
Like "We Will Rock You."
It was more along the lines of a honky spiritual.
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Post by Mercy for All on Aug 19, 2020 16:19:05 GMT
It was more along the lines of a honky spiritual.
No, I meant "We Will Rock You" is an example of the vocals going off key (almost immediately, actually), so by the time the guitar comes back it in the key is noticeably different. |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 19, 2020 19:45:09 GMT
It was more along the lines of a honky spiritual.
No, I meant "We Will Rock You" is an example of the vocals going off key (almost immediately, actually), so by the time the guitar comes back it in the key is noticeably different.
Might be why I've always sort of stopped listening when that dreck came on the radio.
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