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Post by atreyu on Jul 13, 2020 0:48:26 GMT
Simple question.
What percent of the population in the U.S. has to die before you think a change in policy or a shutdown should occur?
1 out of 200? 10 out of 100? 50 out of 100?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 0:57:08 GMT
I know it seems like you're illustrating some kind of point with this.
But a better series of questions is is.
Do you really think 1.65 million people are going to die?
Do you really think 33 million people are going to die?
Do you really think 165 million people are going to die?
Do you think at all?
Queshank
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 13, 2020 1:07:19 GMT
Simple question.
What percent of the population in the U.S. has to die before you think a change in policy or a shutdown should occur?
1 out of 200? 10 out of 100? 50 out of 100?
Good question.
The reports I've seen suggest that absent any efforts to limit the spread of the virus, but instead relying on herd immunity resulting from widespread uncontrolled infections, the death toll before herd immunity can take effect would be FIVE MILLION.
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 13, 2020 1:17:33 GMT
Simple question.
What percent of the population in the U.S. has to die before you think a change in policy or a shutdown should occur?
1 out of 200? 10 out of 100? 50 out of 100?
A forced shutdown is not necessary. People will naturally seek to protect themselves and others if the danger is great enough. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 13, 2020 1:18:33 GMT
Simple question.
What percent of the population in the U.S. has to die before you think a change in policy or a shutdown should occur?
1 out of 200? 10 out of 100? 50 out of 100?
Good question.
The reports I've seen suggest that absent any efforts to limit the spread of the virus, but instead relying on herd immunity resulting from widespread uncontrolled infections, the death toll before herd immunity can take effect would be FIVE MILLION.
You keep repeating that despite being shown repeatedly that data is inaccurate. |
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Post by atreyu on Jul 13, 2020 1:27:01 GMT
I know it seems like you're illustrating some kind of point with this. But a better series of questions is is. Do you really think 1.65 million people are going to die? Do you really think 33 million people are going to die? Do you really think 165 million people are going to die? Do you think at all? Queshank
Perhaps you should start your own thread and ask those questions. That is certainly not what I asked.
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 13, 2020 1:33:55 GMT
Hey, Lomelissa, found the perfect avatar for you!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 1:39:17 GMT
Let me ask this; what level of freedom are you willing to give up to ensure security? Some, most, all? What level of risk are you willing to accept in life? A lot, some, none?
For me, I'm not willing to give up any freedom to mitigate risk. I will manage my risks.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 13, 2020 1:42:32 GMT
Let me ask this; what level of freedom are you willing to give up to ensure security? Some, most, all? What level of risk are you willing to accept in life? A lot, some, none? For me, I'm not willing to give up any freedom to mitigate risk. I will manage my risks. This isn't about security, it's about public health. Greg |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 1:47:24 GMT
Let me ask this; what level of freedom are you willing to give up to ensure security? Some, most, all? What level of risk are you willing to accept in life? A lot, some, none? For me, I'm not willing to give up any freedom to mitigate risk. I will manage my risks. This isn't about security, it's about public health. Greg It's about security. |
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Post by petep on Jul 13, 2020 3:38:25 GMT
We’ve tracked the historical levels back to 1950 and the annual estimates and projections have been very accurate.
Year to date it would appear much is reclassification.
We could probably get the number close to zero if all under mandatory lockdown at gunpoint. No shopping, to work etc.
You are measuring a single and mostly pointless metric.
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Post by bama beau on Jul 13, 2020 4:07:16 GMT
Let me ask this; what level of freedom are you willing to give up to ensure security? Some, most, all? What level of risk are you willing to accept in life? A lot, some, none? For me, I'm not willing to give up any freedom to mitigate risk. I will manage my risks. If, in order to manage, you mitigate, you have already been limited by risk. That is elementary. The real question is this: To what does that supra refer? |
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Post by phillip on Jul 13, 2020 4:15:04 GMT
As many as it takes to get rid of anyone that thinks a "COVID Party" is a good idea. Sometimes, it's ok to let dumb people slowly off themselves [Unfortunately, in this case, it can end up victimizing other people they come in contact with too].
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Post by bama beau on Jul 13, 2020 4:17:34 GMT
As many as it takes to get rid of anyone that thinks a "COVID Party" is a good idea. Sometimes, it's ok to let dumb people slowly off themselves [Unfortunately, in this case, it can end up victimizing other people they come in contact with too]. It'll be you, me and my granddaughter there at the end, then. Dress appropriately. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 13, 2020 6:37:27 GMT
Hey, Lomelissa, found the perfect avatar for you!
You keep posting debunked aged info. Weird videos and pics doesn't change that you doofus. |
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Post by crepe05 on Jul 13, 2020 12:50:36 GMT
As many as it takes to get rid of anyone that thinks a "COVID Party" is a good idea. Sometimes, it's ok to let dumb people slowly off themselves [Unfortunately, in this case, it can end up victimizing other people they come in contact with too]. OMG, I totally agree with Phillip. Can the world withstand that? |
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Post by atreyu on Jul 13, 2020 16:17:20 GMT
So I'm hearing from the lack of response from our conservative posters that any amount is ok, as long as it's not them personally?
This how you can tell they're not arguing earnest when discussing percentages from different sources.
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 13, 2020 19:27:47 GMT
As many as it takes to get rid of anyone that thinks a "COVID Party" is a good idea. Sometimes, it's ok to let dumb people slowly off themselves [Unfortunately, in this case, it can end up victimizing other people they come in contact with too]. It'll be you, me and my granddaughter there at the end, then. Dress appropriately.
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Post by Mercy for All on Jul 13, 2020 19:38:08 GMT
So I'm hearing from the lack of response from our conservative posters that any amount is ok, as long as it's not them personally? This how you can tell they're not arguing earnest when discussing percentages from different sources. That may be a hasty conclusion. People don't always respond to what they perceive to be loaded questions, trap questions, or questions with inherent ambiguity or presumption. |
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Post by atreyu on Jul 13, 2020 21:16:48 GMT
So I'm hearing from the lack of response from our conservative posters that any amount is ok, as long as it's not them personally? This how you can tell they're not arguing earnest when discussing percentages from different sources. That may be a hasty conclusion. People don't always respond to what they perceive to be loaded questions, trap questions, or questions with inherent ambiguity or presumption.
Yeah, them darn percentages are such tricky beasts.
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