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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 17:32:15 GMT
We see what we want. One thing is for sure.. I am getting a better read on YOU, and I don't like what I see. a lot of us feel the same way about you. Your Anti American views have been duely noted. Oh sure. Everyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American." I bet the folks you are thinking of are all rightwing nut-jobs, Q-types and economic nationalists. |
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Post by RWB on Jul 13, 2020 17:34:37 GMT
a lot of us feel the same way about you. Your Anti American views have been duely noted. Oh sure. Everyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American." AND everyone who disagrees with you is labeled a Racist. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 17:36:09 GMT
Oh sure. Everyone who disagrees with you is "anti-American." AND everyone who disagrees with you is labeled a Racist. Everyone? Or is it just certain people? Ya know... the racists? |
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Post by petep on Jul 13, 2020 17:45:53 GMT
The basis of their movement is violence. They have put forth nothing at all that is productive or constructive. At all. Zero. We see what we want. One thing is for sure.. I am getting a better read on YOU, and I don't like what I see. yet we have witnessed brutal ambush's against the police in cities like dallas and baton rouge...old retired officers gunned down... do these innocent lives matter? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 17:50:29 GMT
We see what we want. One thing is for sure.. I am getting a better read on YOU, and I don't like what I see. yet we have witnessed brutal ambush's against the police in cities like dallas and baton rouge...old retired officers gunned down... do these innocent lives matter? Its questions like this which make me scratch my head wondering what you are thinking. That you would even ask me this is... well.. silly. Just like your question about socialism. I can only smile back in response. |
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Post by petep on Jul 13, 2020 17:50:39 GMT
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Post by RWB on Jul 13, 2020 17:53:16 GMT
AND everyone who disagrees with you is labeled a Racist. Everyone? Or is it just certain people? Ya know... the racists? don't feel bad it's a Liberal trait when someone has a view you don't agree with. Petep is a good example of this you don't agree with him so you labeled him a Racist if he's a Racist than so are you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 17:57:58 GMT
Everyone? Or is it just certain people? Ya know... the racists? don't feel bad it's a Liberal trait when someone has a few you don't agree with. Petrep is a good example of this you don't agree with him so you labeled him a Racist if he's a Racist than so are you. Pete has done everything in his power to discredit himself but I don't recall labeling him a racist. |
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Post by petep on Jul 13, 2020 18:01:19 GMT
Everyone? Or is it just certain people? Ya know... the racists? don't feel bad it's a Liberal trait when someone has a few you don't agree with. Petrep is a good example of this you don't agree with him so you labeled him a Racist if he's a Racist than so are you. Me thinks TL is going thru rough patch...he used to be calm, rationale, logical....he just seems angry these days...if you disagree with him, he is now in the wads, fids camp and will label you a racist, or something along the lines of I can't prove it, but I'm labeling you anyway... classic goerbels, marxist, community organizer, alinsky tactics.. you know it when you see it, and you know there is no longer a discussion...its about a radical agenda |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 18:03:59 GMT
don't feel bad it's a Liberal trait when someone has a few you don't agree with. Petrep is a good example of this you don't agree with him so you labeled him a Racist if he's a Racist than so are you. Me thinks TL is going thru rough patch...he used to be calm, rationale, logical....he just seems angry these days...if you disagree with him, he is now in the wads, fids camp and will label you a racist, or something along the lines of I can't prove it, but I'm labeling you anyway... classic goerbels, marxist, community organizer, alinsky tactics.. you know it when you see it, and you know there is no longer a discussion...its about a radical agenda I see two posters who can't cut it in a debate and want to engage in ad hom attack. Talk about the kettle calling the pot black. You're throwing a litany of slurs at my direction. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 18:05:44 GMT
Let's see a quote where I called Pete a racist.
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Post by petep on Jul 13, 2020 18:07:38 GMT
Me thinks TL is going thru rough patch...he used to be calm, rationale, logical....he just seems angry these days...if you disagree with him, he is now in the wads, fids camp and will label you a racist, or something along the lines of I can't prove it, but I'm labeling you anyway... classic goerbels, marxist, community organizer, alinsky tactics.. you know it when you see it, and you know there is no longer a discussion...its about a radical agenda I see two posters who can't cut it in a debate and want to engage in ad hom attack. yes, you are right TL...we are busy posting links to studies and data and articles that support our position...and you engage in name calling...you are a genius. a real point of light... |
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Post by archie on Jul 13, 2020 18:23:14 GMT
This just proves my point Black Lives Matter is a Racist terrorist organization AND just like the KKK should be labeled as such. ALL LIVES MATTER. Well, maybe if some person in the first group of people didn't call somebody in the second group a "n****r", this would not have happened. Greg Greg. My family that came here in the late 1800’s and 1920’s put up with a lot of insults and did not revolt and tear down buildings and statues. Even when I was in grammar school, some kids learned from their parents that us genies were no good. So instead of us getting strappings from the principle for knocking teeth out and breaking eye glasses, my grandmother sat me and Vinnie down and told us,” Sticks and stones can break your bones, but names will never hurt you.” And that is the way it should be. If no one takes offence enough to cause trouble, then in time the name calling won’t be worth it. My harp friend Tommie and me played checkers and called each other names all the time, but it never did anything but make us and anyone else around laugh. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 13, 2020 18:30:23 GMT
Well, maybe if some person in the first group of people didn't call somebody in the second group a "n****r", this would not have happened. Greg Greg. My family that came here in the late 1800’s and 1920’s put up with a lot of insults and did not revolt and tear down buildings and statues. Even when I was in grammar school, some kids learned from their parents that us genies were no good. So instead of us getting strappings from the principle for knocking teeth out and breaking eye glasses, my grandmother sat me and Vinnie down and told us,” Sticks and stones can break your bones, but names will never hurt you.” And that is the way it should be. If no one takes offence enough to cause trouble, then in time the name calling won’t be worth it. My harp friend Tommie and me played checkers and called each other names all the time, but it never did anything but make us and anyone else around laugh.
Well Archie, as I've said, alcohol and firearms fakes a bad combination. Through in racist insults and that makes a pot of BAD chili.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 18:37:53 GMT
I see two posters who can't cut it in a debate and want to engage in ad hom attack. you engage in name calling Quote me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 18:39:13 GMT
you are no libertarian...I've spent too much time with FEE and alongside real libertarians...they would condemn the individual police abuses just as they would condemn killers in the BLM movement I have forgotten more about libertarianism than you will ever know. Libertarians care about institutionalized injustice. They would condemn individual police abuses AND the institutions (laws, norms, practices) that make them possible. I know libertarians. I am one. Pete, you are no libertarian. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 19:11:14 GMT
No, what we are debating is your insistence that the actions of a few color the entire BLM movement. Oh...so it isn't right to take the actions of a few people like say...oh I don't know...law enforcement officers, and apply that to all of them? Law enforcement officers are not operating in a vacuum. There is an institutional context (laws, norms, practices) which create the space for injustice to thrive. (the war on drugs, powerful police unions, qualified immunity, civil asset forfeiture, escalation of force protocols, etc are all examples of where the context is flawed) Yes, don't blame all officers for the actions of a few but do take a look at the institutions and laws that promote injustice. That's the BLM message. That's also the libertarian message. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 19:25:04 GMT
Oh...so it isn't right to take the actions of a few people like say...oh I don't know...law enforcement officers, and apply that to all of them? Law enforcement officers are not operating in a vacuum. There is an institutional context (laws, norms, practices) which create the space for injustice to thrive. (the war on drugs, powerful police unions, qualified immunity, civil asset forfeiture, escalation of force protocols, etc are all examples of where the context is flawed) Yes, don't blame all officers for the actions of a few but do take a look at the institutions and laws that promote injustice. That's the BLM message. That's also the libertarian message. Five sentences all justifying why you want to blame all cops and they are all supposed to be erased by the one acknowledgment that you know your logic is wrong but keep trying to justify it any way? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 19:28:09 GMT
Law enforcement officers are not operating in a vacuum. There is an institutional context (laws, norms, practices) which create the space for injustice to thrive. (the war on drugs, powerful police unions, qualified immunity, civil asset forfeiture, escalation of force protocols, etc are all examples of where the context is flawed) Yes, don't blame all officers for the actions of a few but do take a look at the institutions and laws that promote injustice. That's the BLM message. That's also the libertarian message. Five sentences all justifying why you want to blame all cops and they are all supposed to be erased by the one acknowledgment that you know your logic is wrong but keep trying to justify it any way? I just explained how the cops are not the problem, its the law and institutional context. Maybe read it again. |
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