Odysseus
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Trump = Disaster
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Post by Odysseus on Nov 4, 2024 5:22:59 GMT
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genesee
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More mellower
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Post by genesee on Nov 4, 2024 18:17:20 GMT
Good.
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Post by queshank on Nov 4, 2024 18:47:18 GMT
And yet you can't even see how you've been programmed to deny the 2024 election results if they don't go your way.
Like you were in 2016.
Sad.
Queshank
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Post by Fiddler on Nov 4, 2024 19:51:57 GMT
And yet you can't even see how you've been programmed to deny the 2024 election results if they don't go your way.
Like you were in 2016.
Sad.
Queshank
Weird .. I mean I remember when the Democrats stormed the Capitol in 2016 to stop the election certification but I'm not sure if everyone else does ..
Did you know that celery is just as poisonous as cyanide in the same way as Democrats deny the 2016 election vs 2020 MAGA ..? It's true.
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Post by Fiddler on Nov 4, 2024 20:47:45 GMT
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Post by MojoJojo on Nov 4, 2024 20:53:35 GMT
Of all the bullshit and behaviors he displays, this is the one that's a deal-breaker for me.
A sore-loser is hard to tolerate in any game, especially such a high-stakes one.
He shouldn't be allowed a seat at the table, IMO.
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Post by queshank on Nov 4, 2024 21:12:37 GMT
And yet you can't even see how you've been programmed to deny the 2024 election results if they don't go your way.
Like you were in 2016.
Sad.
Queshank
Weird .. I mean I remember when the Democrats stormed the Capitol in 2016 to stop the election certification but I'm not sure if everyone else does ..
Did you know that celery is just as poisonous as cyanide in the same way as Democrats deny the 2016 election vs 2020 MAGA ..? It's true.
You know one of the first indicators of a programmed zealot Fiddler?
Believing that Russia interfered in our election in any material way. It's especially obvious when it's someone like you who prior to 2016 understood that was realpolitik at the international level and always has been.
But the second is believing a few hundred chinless turd cosplayers was more than it was.
Hey VYPR you should share some of my quotes from 2015. I'm finally ready to explain to you why I am so entertained whenever you do.
Isn't it funny how what I said in 2015 is exactly what guys like Fiddler are *still* saying 8 years later? It's almost like ... if you repeat something often enough ...
Queshank
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thor
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Post by thor on Nov 4, 2024 22:29:42 GMT
Weird .. I mean I remember when the Democrats stormed the Capitol in 2016 to stop the election certification but I'm not sure if everyone else does ..
Did you know that celery is just as poisonous as cyanide in the same way as Democrats deny the 2016 election vs 2020 MAGA ..? It's true.
You know one of the first indicators of a programmed zealot Fiddler?
Believing that Russia interfered in our election in any material way. It's especially obvious when it's someone like you who prior to 2016 understood that was realpolitik at the international level and always has been.
But the second is believing a few hundred chinless turd cosplayers was more than it was.
Hey VYPR you should share some of my quotes from 2015. I'm finally ready to explain to you why I am so entertained whenever you do.
Isn't it funny how what I said in 2015 is exactly what guys like Fiddler are *still* saying 8 years later? It's almost like ... if you repeat something often enough ...
Queshank
Que-Anon tells us he hasn't read the Mueller Report. Thus, he fucked up his 'analysis'. Again. Sad!
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Odysseus
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Trump = Disaster
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Post by Odysseus on Nov 5, 2024 0:44:51 GMT
Of all the bullshit and behaviors he displays, this is the one that's a deal-breaker for me. A sore-loser is hard to tolerate in any game, especially such a high-stakes one. He shouldn't be allowed a seat at the table, IMO.
Exactly my thought on the pending election...
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Post by VYPR on Nov 5, 2024 1:22:25 GMT
Weird .. I mean I remember when the Democrats stormed the Capitol in 2016 to stop the election certification but I'm not sure if everyone else does ..
Did you know that celery is just as poisonous as cyanide in the same way as Democrats deny the 2016 election vs 2020 MAGA ..? It's true.
You know one of the first indicators of a programmed zealot Fiddler?
Believing that Russia interfered in our election in any material way. It's especially obvious when it's someone like you who prior to 2016 understood that was realpolitik at the international level and always has been.
But the second is believing a few hundred chinless turd cosplayers was more than it was.
Hey VYPR you should share some of my quotes from 2015. I'm finally ready to explain to you why I am so entertained whenever you do.
Isn't it funny how what I said in 2015 is exactly what guys like Fiddler are *still* saying 8 years later? It's almost like ... if you repeat something often enough ...
Queshank
A while back, shortly after you had made the switch to slavering minion, I summoned up your quote about Trump and MAGA's obsession with closing the border being rooted in racism, you said maybe you went too far on that one. So, like so many otherwise smart people who went down the rabbit hole for Trump, QAnon and MAGA, you walked away from your common sense and earlier skepticism, convincing yourself that you have transformed into someone even more informed and in-the-know. In reality, you're just in bed with a demagogue and a movement that wants authoritarian power. Enjoy your stop the steal protests. You are a perfect example of someone being mind fucked by your echo chamber. I honestly pity you.
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Post by RinsePrius on Nov 5, 2024 2:40:29 GMT
And yet you can't even see how you've been programmed to deny the 2024 election results if they don't go your way.
Like you were in 2016.
Sad.
Queshank
I'm not going to let MAGA get away with what they've done to you, bro. Promise.
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Odysseus
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Trump = Disaster
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Post by Odysseus on Nov 5, 2024 7:15:12 GMT
Weird .. I mean I remember when the Democrats stormed the Capitol in 2016 to stop the election certification but I'm not sure if everyone else does ..
Did you know that celery is just as poisonous as cyanide in the same way as Democrats deny the 2016 election vs 2020 MAGA ..? It's true.
You know one of the first indicators of a programmed zealot Fiddler?
Believing that Russia interfered in our election in any material way. It's especially obvious when it's someone like you who prior to 2016 understood that was realpolitik at the international level and always has been.
But the second is believing a few hundred chinless turd cosplayers was more than it was.
Hey VYPR you should share some of my quotes from 2015. I'm finally ready to explain to you why I am so entertained whenever you do.
Isn't it funny how what I said in 2015 is exactly what guys like Fiddler are *still* saying 8 years later? It's almost like ... if you repeat something often enough ...
Queshank
Yeah, but more often than not you're dead wrong.
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Post by DaveJavu on Nov 5, 2024 11:46:15 GMT
Weird .. I mean I remember when the Democrats stormed the Capitol in 2016 to stop the election certification but I'm not sure if everyone else does ..
Did you know that celery is just as poisonous as cyanide in the same way as Democrats deny the 2016 election vs 2020 MAGA ..? It's true.
You know one of the first indicators of a programmed zealot Fiddler?
Believing that Russia interfered in our election in any material way. It's especially obvious when it's someone like you who prior to 2016 understood that was realpolitik at the international level and always has been.
But the second is believing a few hundred chinless turd cosplayers was more than it was.
Hey VYPR you should share some of my quotes from 2015. I'm finally ready to explain to you why I am so entertained whenever you do.
Isn't it funny how what I said in 2015 is exactly what guys like Fiddler are *still* saying 8 years later? It's almost like ... if you repeat something often enough ...
Queshank
Something tells me, dumbass, that there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth among your coreligionists in a few hours...
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Post by queshank on Nov 5, 2024 16:45:55 GMT
You know one of the first indicators of a programmed zealot Fiddler?
Believing that Russia interfered in our election in any material way. It's especially obvious when it's someone like you who prior to 2016 understood that was realpolitik at the international level and always has been.
But the second is believing a few hundred chinless turd cosplayers was more than it was.
Hey VYPR you should share some of my quotes from 2015. I'm finally ready to explain to you why I am so entertained whenever you do.
Isn't it funny how what I said in 2015 is exactly what guys like Fiddler are *still* saying 8 years later? It's almost like ... if you repeat something often enough ...
Queshank
A while back, shortly after you had made the switch to slavering minion, I summoned up your quote about Trump and MAGA's obsession with closing the border being rooted in racism, you said maybe you went too far on that one. So, like so many otherwise smart people who went down the rabbit hole for Trump, QAnon and MAGA, you walked away from your common sense and earlier skepticism, convincing yourself that you have transformed into someone even more informed and in-the-know. In reality, you're just in bed with a demagogue and a movement that wants authoritarian power. Enjoy your stop the steal protests. You are a perfect example of someone being mind fucked by your echo chamber. I honestly pity you.
I doubt I ever said I went too far with anything. If anything I don't think I go far enough with *eveyrthing.* This being what it's like to live at the end of a golden age.
But this post from you so succinctly demonstrates why I think you and so many others here are fools and why I think you're an adherent of a religion.
You have to convince yourself that I'm "mind fucked by an echo chamber." Or else your shit doesn't work. Your reality doesn't hold.
And yet you have never seen me share anything from that "mind fucked echo chamber." Because I don't have an echo chamber that's any different from your own. NPR in my car. My only 2 subscriptions to media being the New York Times and the Washington Post. CNN. Politico. These are my sources of information and what I share here regularly to make my arguments in the form of hundreds of articles from left wing sources over the past 8 years.
You can't comprehend that. You have to otherize me. Or the cognitive dissonance is too much for you.
The only reason I'm more enlightened than you are Vypr, is because I don't just read the sensationalist headlines on page 1. As I've said over and over ... I also read the retractions and the "updates" on page 6. Because I actually read the news. And you, like most Americans, don't read past the headlines. And so haven't seen the mechanisms and manipulations used on millions of Americans. You don't care. You only care about your team winning. You give zero shits about liberalism or America's principles.
It's like a close friend of mine early on in the Trump era who insisted he was informed about "both sides" because he watches both CNN AND Fox News. It's like he told me he watches both the Cartoon Network AND Nickelodeon and that's why he's so informed. It's made me chuckle ever since. And makes me think of guys like you.
Nice attempt to rationalize why you are still parroting me from 2015 tho and haven't learned any new information beyond "Trump's a dictator." Did you even notice that's what you were doing? You're so deep into the propaganda I doubt you did.
Queshank
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Post by queshank on Nov 5, 2024 16:48:20 GMT
And yet you can't even see how you've been programmed to deny the 2024 election results if they don't go your way.
Like you were in 2016.
Sad.
Queshank
I'm not going to let MAGA get away with what they've done to you, bro. Promise.
You know why I treat you with so much disrespect now TL?
Because for 4 years you had a front row seat to all of my thinking on this subject. You saw my sources. CNN. The New York Times. Etc.
And yet just like Vypr in that other thread I just responded to, you somehow believe MAGA or some "echo chamber" changed me. You wanna know what I haven't tapped into at all for the past 8 years? Fox News or any of the other right wing outlets you guys think are the echo chamber despite the echo chamber clearly being your home turf.
And the fact that you are literally the most changed member of the boards making that observation makes me sad when it doesn't make me laugh.
Queshank
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Post by RinsePrius on Nov 5, 2024 17:18:07 GMT
I'm not going to let MAGA get away with what they've done to you, bro. Promise.
You know why I treat you with so much disrespect now TL?
Because for 4 years you had a front row seat to all of my thinking on this subject. You saw my sources. CNN. The New York Times. Etc.
And yet just like Vypr in that other thread I just responded to, you somehow believe MAGA or some "echo chamber" changed me. You wanna know what I haven't tapped into at all for the past 8 years? Fox News or any of the other right wing outlets you guys think are the echo chamber despite the echo chamber clearly being your home turf.
And the fact that you are literally the most changed member of the boards making that observation makes me sad when it doesn't make me laugh.
Queshank
You similarly had a front row seat to my posts. Yet here we are on opposite sides of the issues. Maybe our posts aren't what we think they are. Maybe we should take a step down off our high horses. I hadn't realized you were treating me with disrespect. Thanks for going easy on me.. I guess? I'm not going to pretend to have any insight into what "changed" you. That's a story you know better than anyone else. One thing I would suggest, it would be foolish for either of us to pretend our evolution is some insular solo exercise of pure reason, devoid of influence or interaction with the thoughts of others. We're not coming down from Mt Sinai with the new light.
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Post by queshank on Nov 5, 2024 17:24:31 GMT
You know why I treat you with so much disrespect now TL?
Because for 4 years you had a front row seat to all of my thinking on this subject. You saw my sources. CNN. The New York Times. Etc.
And yet just like Vypr in that other thread I just responded to, you somehow believe MAGA or some "echo chamber" changed me. You wanna know what I haven't tapped into at all for the past 8 years? Fox News or any of the other right wing outlets you guys think are the echo chamber despite the echo chamber clearly being your home turf.
And the fact that you are literally the most changed member of the boards making that observation makes me sad when it doesn't make me laugh.
Queshank
You similarly had a front row seat to my posts. Yet here we are on opposite sides of the issues. Maybe our posts aren't what we think they are. Maybe we should take a step down off our high horses. I hadn't realized you were treating me with disrespect. Thanks for going easy on me.. I guess? I'm not going to pretend to have any insight into what "changed" you. That's a story you know better than anyone else. One thing I would suggest, it would be foolish for either of us to pretend our evolution is some insular solo exercise of pure reason, devoid from influence or interaction with the thoughts of others. We're not coming down from Mt Sinai with the new light.
I haven't changed tho bro. I haven't responded to your silly "yikes" post but I will eventually. It's kinda boring. But it actually helps highlight how much I haven't changed.
You can't make the same argument tho. But you ran so far past me towards authoritarianism that it looked like I was moving in the opposite direction to you.
And i didn't have a front row seat to your posts. I barely saw you post on my blog. But you had access to several posts a day from me from 2017 to 2020. No? Which sources that I used did you disagree with?
I only remember disagreeing with the one post you shared from that clown Godwyn who thinks the internet was flooded with nazis because a bunch of 60 year old midwesterners joined facebook to share pictures of their grandkids when it got popular and that was "evidence" from his standpoint of people "changing." I still think that is one of the most hilariously stupid hot takes. And seems to be the same level of logic most of you on the boards use to analyze my "changes."
Ok that's not true. There is one more change. I'm not voting today. Today marks 10 years since I cast a vote. Isn't that funny that I always used to try to convince you and Rabbit and Lomelis to vote ... and now you 3 all vote and I don't ? lol Good times. It's okay tho man. Humanity's been here before. This is just what it's like to live at the end of a golden age.
Queshank
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Post by queshank on Nov 5, 2024 17:27:23 GMT
See my twitter feed as a "right winger" (lol)
For more on how the Democrats and their lackeys are laying the groundwork for disputing the election results.
Queshank
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Post by RinsePrius on Nov 5, 2024 17:33:13 GMT
You similarly had a front row seat to my posts. Yet here we are on opposite sides of the issues. Maybe our posts aren't what we think they are. Maybe we should take a step down off our high horses. I hadn't realized you were treating me with disrespect. Thanks for going easy on me.. I guess? I'm not going to pretend to have any insight into what "changed" you. That's a story you know better than anyone else. One thing I would suggest, it would be foolish for either of us to pretend our evolution is some insular solo exercise of pure reason, devoid from influence or interaction with the thoughts of others. We're not coming down from Mt Sinai with the new light.
I haven't changed tho bro. I haven't responded to your silly "yikes" post but I will eventually. It's kinda boring. But it actually helps highlight how much I haven't changed.
You can't make the same argument tho. But you ran so far past me towards authoritarianism that it looked like I was moving in the opposite direction to you.
And i didn't have a front row seat to your posts. I barely saw you post on my blog. But you had access to several posts a day from me from 2017 to 2020. No? Which sources that I used did you disagree with?
I only remember disagreeing with the one post you shared from that clown Godwyn who thinks the internet was flooded with nazis because a bunch of 60 year old midwesterners joined facebook to share pictures of their grandkids when it got popular and that was "evidence" from his standpoint of people "changing." I still think that is one of the most hilariously stupid hot takes. And seems to be the same level of logic most of you on the boards use to analyze my "changes."
Ok that's not true. There is one more change. I'm not voting today. Today marks 10 years since I cast a vote. Isn't that funny that I always used to try to convince you and Rabbit and Lomelis to vote ... and now you 3 all vote and I don't ? lol Good times. It's okay tho man. Humanity's been here before. This is just what it's like to live at the end of a golden age.
Queshank
Ok, you're the same. You know, I find that plausible. I have been reading you for years and still don't know what your political opinions actually are. I know you have a contrarian personality but little else can be so clearly nailed down. If I could use one word to describe the feeling I get from your posts, it would be "unfocused."
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Post by queshank on Nov 5, 2024 17:34:40 GMT
I haven't changed tho bro. I haven't responded to your silly "yikes" post but I will eventually. It's kinda boring. But it actually helps highlight how much I haven't changed.
You can't make the same argument tho. But you ran so far past me towards authoritarianism that it looked like I was moving in the opposite direction to you.
And i didn't have a front row seat to your posts. I barely saw you post on my blog. But you had access to several posts a day from me from 2017 to 2020. No? Which sources that I used did you disagree with?
I only remember disagreeing with the one post you shared from that clown Godwyn who thinks the internet was flooded with nazis because a bunch of 60 year old midwesterners joined facebook to share pictures of their grandkids when it got popular and that was "evidence" from his standpoint of people "changing." I still think that is one of the most hilariously stupid hot takes. And seems to be the same level of logic most of you on the boards use to analyze my "changes."
Ok that's not true. There is one more change. I'm not voting today. Today marks 10 years since I cast a vote. Isn't that funny that I always used to try to convince you and Rabbit and Lomelis to vote ... and now you 3 all vote and I don't ? lol Good times. It's okay tho man. Humanity's been here before. This is just what it's like to live at the end of a golden age.
Queshank
Ok, you're the same. You know, I find that plausible. I have been reading you for years and still don't know what your political opinions actually are. I know you have a contrarian personality but little else can be so clearly nailed down. If I could use one word to describe the feeling I get from your posts, it would be "unfocused."
You do seem to have become all about feelings. Queshank
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