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Post by Greg55_99 on Oct 23, 2024 18:18:09 GMT
At this point why not just say trump is a murderer and rapist and bank robber. And get some undisclosed anonymous sources corroborate the claim. That seems to be what this radically left admin and media has come to. Gen John Kelly is not an anonymous source. Greg |
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Post by demos on Oct 23, 2024 18:20:33 GMT
Don’t you think it is kinda hard to expose your commander and chief while you are working under him? Maybe if you're working for a fascist you should resign and call him out for being a fascist.
None of these guys were saying this stuff at the time they resigned.
For example, here's what Kelly said shortly after his departure: Kelly added that he was not ordered to carry out any illegal action "because we wouldn't have"... "If he had said to me, 'Do it, or you’re fired,'" Kelly insisted he would have resigned... ( NBC News, 12/30/2018)
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Post by petep on Oct 23, 2024 18:21:25 GMT
At this point why not just say trump is a murderer and rapist and bank robber. And get some undisclosed anonymous sources corroborate the claim. That seems to be what this radically left admin and media has come to. Gen John Kelly is not an anonymous source. Greg Ok. Greg is a Nazi fascist. That’s my opinion. Prove you are not. Because I don’t have to offer any evidence you are. I just label you. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Oct 23, 2024 18:29:41 GMT
Gen John Kelly is not an anonymous source. Greg Ok. Greg is a Nazi fascist. That’s my opinion. Prove you are not. Because I don’t have to offer any evidence you are. I just label you. Trump has said over and over he wants to use the military to go after HIS political enemies. Did you miss that? Greg |
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Post by petep on Oct 23, 2024 18:41:35 GMT
Ok. Greg is a Nazi fascist. That’s my opinion. Prove you are not. Because I don’t have to offer any evidence you are. I just label you. Trump has said over and over he wants to use the military to go after HIS political enemies. Did you miss that? Greg Please link to that quote. |
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 23, 2024 19:07:11 GMT
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 23, 2024 19:18:43 GMT
Don’t you think it is kinda hard to expose your commander and chief while you are working under him? Maybe if you're working for a fascist you should resign and call him out for being a fascist.
None of these guys were saying this stuff at the time they resigned.
For example, here's what Kelly said shortly after his departure: Kelly added that he was not ordered to carry out any illegal action "because we wouldn't have"... "If he had said to me, 'Do it, or you’re fired,'" Kelly insisted he would have resigned... ( NBC News, 12/30/2018)
But that does not mean that he didn’t hear him say some fascist stuff |
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Post by petep on Oct 23, 2024 19:21:12 GMT
Maybe if you're working for a fascist you should resign and call him out for being a fascist.
None of these guys were saying this stuff at the time they resigned.
For example, here's what Kelly said shortly after his departure: Kelly added that he was not ordered to carry out any illegal action "because we wouldn't have"... "If he had said to me, 'Do it, or you’re fired,'" Kelly insisted he would have resigned... ( NBC News, 12/30/2018)
But that does not mean that he didn’t hear him say some fascist stuff Do you even know what a fascist is? |
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Post by demos on Oct 23, 2024 19:25:48 GMT
But that does not mean that he didn’t hear him say some fascist stuff These guys aren't simply saying he said fascist stuff. They're saying he IS a fascist:
Kelly, Trump's Homeland Security secretary and then White House chief of staff, said in his view, "Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law," the Times paraphrased. ( Source)
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 23, 2024 19:27:49 GMT
But that does not mean that he didn’t hear him say some fascist stuff Do you even know what a fascist is? I sure do. But obviously, you don’t |
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 23, 2024 19:29:26 GMT
But that does not mean that he didn’t hear him say some fascist stuff These guys aren't simply saying he said fascist stuff. They're saying he IS a fascist:
Kelly, Trump's Homeland Security secretary and then White House chief of staff, said in his view, "Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law," the Times paraphrased. ( Source)
Well, if They heard him say a lot of fascist stuff, then I guess their summation is that he is fascist |
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Post by petep on Oct 23, 2024 19:31:04 GMT
But that does not mean that he didn’t hear him say some fascist stuff These guys aren't simply saying he said fascist stuff. They're saying he IS a fascist:
Kelly, Trump's Homeland Security secretary and then White House chief of staff, said in his view, "Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law," the Times paraphrased. ( Source)
Was trump a fascist the last time around? Great in states rights. Great on small medium size business. Great on free speech. No mandates. No disinformation board, pro second amendment. Basically the exact opposite of what a fascist does. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Oct 23, 2024 19:41:22 GMT
Trump has said over and over he wants to use the military to go after HIS political enemies. Did you miss that? Greg Please link to that quote. You got it. Greg |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Oct 23, 2024 19:43:44 GMT
These guys aren't simply saying he said fascist stuff. They're saying he IS a fascist:
Kelly, Trump's Homeland Security secretary and then White House chief of staff, said in his view, "Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law," the Times paraphrased. ( Source)
Was trump a fascist the last time around? Great in states rights. Great on small medium size business. Great on free speech. No mandates. No disinformation board, pro second amendment. Basically the exact opposite of what a fascist does. More? Greg |
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Post by runswithscissors on Oct 23, 2024 19:53:37 GMT
So, this is the messaging right now. They've trotted out Milley, McMaster and now Kelly.
Milley was the worst person to trot out with this line. Remember this...
Based on what he's claiming, he was willingly taking part in the fascism.
Now do General Flynn, a three star. Both Obama and trump fired him. Do your best. |
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Post by runswithscissors on Oct 23, 2024 19:57:13 GMT
It appears the people that were closest to Trump are calling him out. Have you thought about why? These people all worked for him. Greg One of them - McMaster - is trying to sell a book.
Another - Milley - is in a book that Bob Woodward is trying to sell.
Now do the people who still worship trump who have written books praising him in the past five years. thanks |
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Post by demos on Oct 23, 2024 19:59:14 GMT
Well, if They heard him say a lot of fascist stuff, then I guess their summation is that he is fascist So, why not resign and call him that? Why continue working for him like Milley did?
Why wait until you're pimping your book (McMaster) to call him that?
It's not that Trump couldn't/wouldn't potentially abuse his powers. This - Trump told Latino supporters in Florida Tuesday that "as president, you have tremendous ... you have extreme power" - is true. The President does have tremendous power unfortunately.
But you don't see Kelly, McMaster or Milley advocating for reining in executive power do you?
In fact, I don't see anyone accusing Trump of being a fascist advocating that; instead we're going to continue to let the executive have tremendous, abusable power.
Kelly definitely wasn't in for restraining that power. He was involved in instituting the "Muslim ban," and "in 2017 once told members of Congress to either change US immigration laws or 'shut up and support the men and women on the front lines.'" ( Source)
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Post by demos on Oct 23, 2024 20:00:28 GMT
Now do General Flynn, a three star. Both Obama and trump fired him. Do your best. What about him?
Maybe you should review my prior comments on Flynn.
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Post by demos on Oct 23, 2024 20:00:53 GMT
Now do the people who still worship trump who have written books praising him in the past five years. thanks Do what about them?
Do you think you have a point here?
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Post by Greg55_99 on Oct 23, 2024 20:04:11 GMT
Well, if They heard him say a lot of fascist stuff, then I guess their summation is that he is fascist So, why not resign and call him that? Why continue working for him like Milley did?
Why wait until you're pimping your book (McMaster) to call him that?
It's not that Trump couldn't/wouldn't potentially abuse his powers. This - Trump told Latino supporters in Florida Tuesday that "as president, you have tremendous ... you have extreme power" - is true. The President does have tremendous power unfortunately.
But you don't see Kelly, McMaster or Milley advocating for reining in executive power do you?
In fact, I don't see anyone accusing Trump of being a fascist advocating that; instead we're going to continue to let the executive have tremendous, abusable power.
Kelly definitely wasn't in for restraining that power. He was involved in instituting the "Muslim ban," and "in 2017 once told members of Congress to either change US immigration laws or 'shut up and support the men and women on the front lines.'" ( Source)
About Milley: people.com/politics/us-general-slams-trump-for-doing-great-irreparable-harm-in-resignation-letter-never-sent/Greg |
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