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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 23, 2024 13:00:52 GMT
What do you think the intentions of the journalist are with this article? The intent is merely to signal that the right wing telegraph media site is doing it's obligatory denigration of what science, evidence, and facts indicate with regard to climate change. I'm sure you can find virtually ANY right wing whine you can think of amplified by the telegraph....just like Fox News can be depended on to do. Pick one.....global warming, abortion rights, alternative energy policies, immigration, drag shows, critical race theory. The Hill, Forbes, the BBC… there are other outlets with the same basic story.
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Post by runswithscissors on Oct 23, 2024 13:09:26 GMT
The intent is merely to signal that the right wing telegraph media site is doing it's obligatory denigration of what science, evidence, and facts indicate with regard to climate change. I'm sure you can find virtually ANY right wing whine you can think of amplified by the telegraph....just like Fox News can be depended on to do. Pick one.....global warming, abortion rights, alternative energy policies, immigration, drag shows, critical race theory. The Hill, Forbes, the BBC… there are other outlets with the same basic story. I don't doubt that. I'm just pointing out the fact that your chosen article is from a right wing outlet and that virtually ALL of those parrot the same lines on the same topics. I did not read the story but I can understand how such a headline is "justified" if one considers the cumulative carbon emissions involved with ALL the effort expended in growing your own food.....the carbon print of the fertilizer you use, inclusion of the transportation related carbon print from shipping the stuff to the store you got them from, your own carbon print in going to get them from the store and then going back......who knows how they arrived at that figure? Different media emphasize (or in some cases just make up) aspects of any given subject to suit their own point of view.
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 23, 2024 13:26:39 GMT
The Hill, Forbes, the BBC… there are other outlets with the same basic story. I don't doubt that. I'm just pointing out the fact that your chosen article is from a right wing outlet and that virtually ALL of those parrot the same lines on the same topics. I did not read the story but I can understand how such a headline is "justified" if one considers the cumulative carbon emissions involved with ALL the effort expended in growing your own food.....the carbon print of the fertilizer you use, inclusion of the transportation related carbon print from shipping the stuff to the store you got them from, your own carbon print in going to get them from the store and then going back......who knows how they arrived at that figure? Different media emphasize (or in some cases just make up) aspects of any given subject to suit their own point of view. Umm, it's a University of Michigan study.
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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 23, 2024 13:38:49 GMT
My angle on this thread was mostly about what passes for "journalism" in the present day. You've added some interesting insights, and I appreciate it. But why was the article written? What is the purpose? We do not have a watchdog media. Not at the legacy-corporate media level. We have propaganda outlets that serve the establishment, that have traded their credentials as "press", and turned themselves into mouthpieces, in order to obtain access to the powerful. ... Home gardening is still such a tiny tiny tiny fraction of produce consumption, the notion that this is what is causing the increase in co2 levels as claimed in the article is ridiculous. It’s like claiming a leaky faucet at a home is what caused the flooding during a hurricane. The article doesn't claim that, you demented fool! What it says is that it's more contributing proportionally than the consumption of store-bought produces but it's doesn't say that it's what causes global warming, you imbecile. Rabbit, you imbecile, so peetape, the senile cretin, is the poster whose "insights" you appreciate, you fucking liar you!!!!
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 23, 2024 14:04:40 GMT
... Home gardening is still such a tiny tiny tiny fraction of produce consumption, the notion that this is what is causing the increase in co2 levels as claimed in the article is ridiculous. It’s like claiming a leaky faucet at a home is what caused the flooding during a hurricane. The article doesn't claim that, you demented fool! What it says is that it's more contributing proportionally than the consumption of store-bought produces but it's doesn't say that it's what causes global warming, you imbecile. Rabbit, you imbecile, so peetape, the senile cretin, is the poster whose "insights" you appreciate, you fucking liar you!!!! Calm down.
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Post by petep on Oct 23, 2024 18:20:26 GMT
The article doesn't claim that, you demented fool! What it says is that it's more contributing proportionally than the consumption of store-bought produces but it's doesn't say that it's what causes global warming, you imbecile. Rabbit, you imbecile, so peetape, the senile cretin, is the poster whose "insights" you appreciate, you fucking liar you!!!! Calm down. It literally states that’s what causing the observed spike. It’s such garbage. There is not even a time series study done to be able to make such a claim. And he even states most is due to infrastructure like sheds and what’s needed to build those. It’s so ridiculous this even passes as a study by a PhD. I never the article said home gardening is responsible for global warming.
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Post by runswithscissors on Oct 23, 2024 19:42:05 GMT
I don't doubt that. I'm just pointing out the fact that your chosen article is from a right wing outlet and that virtually ALL of those parrot the same lines on the same topics. I did not read the story but I can understand how such a headline is "justified" if one considers the cumulative carbon emissions involved with ALL the effort expended in growing your own food.....the carbon print of the fertilizer you use, inclusion of the transportation related carbon print from shipping the stuff to the store you got them from, your own carbon print in going to get them from the store and then going back......who knows how they arrived at that figure? Different media emphasize (or in some cases just make up) aspects of any given subject to suit their own point of view. Umm, it's a University of Michigan study. Thanks. Like I noted, I didn't read the thing. I just noted that the telegraph is a right wing outlet. And if you look, you can find that it's basically the Fox News of the UK. It has the most "complaints" about its stories than any other media in the UK. Limey can probably tell you more about it. But this might help. See the section titled "Climate Change." They are not an objective news source. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph
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Post by runswithscissors on Oct 23, 2024 19:47:51 GMT
I just don't believe that some farmer with two acres and a barn and a horse generates a bigger carbon footprint than the comparable footprint of an identical area of a corporate farm. If so, it just means that the scale of the corporate farm is so huge that in itself makes the average per acre carbon footprint low. There is no way a self sufficient farmer as I described makes a larger carbon footprint than an industrial concern.
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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 23, 2024 22:13:38 GMT
I just don't believe that some farmer with two acres and a barn and a horse generates a bigger carbon footprint than the comparable footprint of an identical area of a corporate farm. If so, it just means that the scale of the corporate farm is so huge that in itself makes the average per acre carbon footprint low. There is no way a self sufficient farmer as I described makes a larger carbon footprint than an industrial concern. They're only interested in debunking the thing, never mind if it's a bogus debunking.
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Post by runswithscissors on Oct 24, 2024 22:13:48 GMT
I just don't believe that some farmer with two acres and a barn and a horse generates a bigger carbon footprint than the comparable footprint of an identical area of a corporate farm. If so, it just means that the scale of the corporate farm is so huge that in itself makes the average per acre carbon footprint low. There is no way a self sufficient farmer as I described makes a larger carbon footprint than an industrial concern. They're only interested in debunking the thing, never mind if it's a bogus debunking. I can't help but notice they've given up on Haitian legal immigrants eating Ohio dogs and cats. They've also pretty much abandoned the critical race theory and the drag shows.....the latest thing is the orange buffoon is hawking the nonsense that kids are getting unauthorized and free sex change operations while at school. And still have to do their homework. I'd let them slide on the homework myself.
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