sokpupet
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Go Dark Brandon!
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Post by sokpupet on Oct 20, 2024 23:10:46 GMT
Weak? But he’s going to perform so many atrocities. The fact that you fail to equate the two speaks volumes. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 20, 2024 23:59:31 GMT
Weak? But he’s going to perform so many atrocities. The fact that you fail to equate the two speaks volumes. One thing they always talk about with Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot is that they were all weak and sleepy dudes. |
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 21, 2024 1:21:31 GMT
I have little to no fear of it actually happening. I just find the statement dangerous. Illiberal even. We're back to the threat being a loss of faith rather than outright naked force. You’re seeing symptoms and identifying them as the cause. Loss of faith in these institutions has been degrading for decades. The institutions are failing people. Citing GDP statistics and S&P 500 numbers doesn’t fool people anymore. “Guys have more faith!” is a futile encouragement. I think we could probably find some common ground on that. I would agree. The neo-liberal turn, the de-regulatory movement, welfare reform, dropping the ball on prison reform, tepid support for unions and the list goes on. The institutions aren't really failing though, as much as they are giving us what we want. I'd say it is more a consequence of buyer's remorse. It would be easy to sow distrust and further loss of faith in a moment like this, but far more difficult to course correct, keep the faith and try to renew trust. I know which side I am on. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 21, 2024 13:14:24 GMT
You’re seeing symptoms and identifying them as the cause. Loss of faith in these institutions has been degrading for decades. The institutions are failing people. Citing GDP statistics and S&P 500 numbers doesn’t fool people anymore. “Guys have more faith!” is a futile encouragement. I think we could probably find some common ground on that. I would agree. The neo-liberal turn, the de-regulatory movement, welfare reform, dropping the ball on prison reform, tepid support for unions and the list goes on. The institutions aren't really failing though, as much as they are giving us what we want. I'd say it is more a consequence of buyer's remorse. How does that apply to things like foreign adventurism / intelligence community / military industrial complex and a plummeting trust in corporate media organizations (alongside obvious things like Congress)? |
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 21, 2024 13:19:22 GMT
I think we could probably find some common ground on that. I would agree. The neo-liberal turn, the de-regulatory movement, welfare reform, dropping the ball on prison reform, tepid support for unions and the list goes on. The institutions aren't really failing though, as much as they are giving us what we want. I'd say it is more a consequence of buyer's remorse. How does that apply to things like foreign adventurism / intelligence community / military industrial complex and a plummeting trust in corporate media organizations (alongside obvious things like Congress)? It's basically the same story. We're probably about the same age. I know you remember how unpopular anti-war arguments were in the country in 2003. I remember being called a traitor. Re: the media, its our eyes and attention that info-tainment attracts away from straight news. They produce what sells. We buy and consume bs and love it. We just don't like the other guy's bs. |
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