Post by petep on Jul 6, 2020 14:13:22 GMT
In a number of threads I've noted where I've posted that the CDC allows "probable" covid (meaning never tested, but assumed based on symptoms) to be counted as a covid death...and when I've posted that, several here have stated this is a lie...that all covid deaths were confirmed, tested positive cases...
This is not true...the CDC allows probable deaths in their tally.
www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86127
www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
see page 2 of the CDC guidelines...
and here:
bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-to-start-listing-data-for-probable-coronavirus-deaths
This latter point is why NYC death cases almost doubled in 24 hours when the CDC changed the rules to allow counting probable cases...
add to that the financial incentive to list deaths and sickness as covid, with no testing required, and it certainly raises red flags.
As I have stated many times elsewhere, the real test will be to compare projected deaths (we've done this since 1950) in the states, pre-covid, against actual total deaths t understand the actual excess deaths due to covid...we know within a 95% confidence interval what our US total death count should be...we would expect if the reports is there were 600,000 covid deaths, then the baseline should increase by about this amount...if the baseline is the same, and we report 600k covid deaths, and 600,000 fewer cancer, heart etc deaths, all we did as reclassify...both extreme example, but you get the point..
This is not true...the CDC allows probable deaths in their tally.
www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86127
www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
see page 2 of the CDC guidelines...
and here:
bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minnesota-to-start-listing-data-for-probable-coronavirus-deaths
This latter point is why NYC death cases almost doubled in 24 hours when the CDC changed the rules to allow counting probable cases...
add to that the financial incentive to list deaths and sickness as covid, with no testing required, and it certainly raises red flags.
As I have stated many times elsewhere, the real test will be to compare projected deaths (we've done this since 1950) in the states, pre-covid, against actual total deaths t understand the actual excess deaths due to covid...we know within a 95% confidence interval what our US total death count should be...we would expect if the reports is there were 600,000 covid deaths, then the baseline should increase by about this amount...if the baseline is the same, and we report 600k covid deaths, and 600,000 fewer cancer, heart etc deaths, all we did as reclassify...both extreme example, but you get the point..