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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 10, 2024 19:09:54 GMT
Vaccine mandates. No school choice. Censoring media. Weaponizing Justice. A regular communist nirvana. Vaccine mandates have existed since vaccines were invented. It's not new. Why are you freaking out about it only now? Not as a condition of keeping one's job in the private sector. This would be like saying the government can order everybody to get a buzz cut, and defending it by saying the military has been requiring buzz cuts for boot camp for generations, so why is it a big deal now?? Be honest. |
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Post by freonbale on Oct 10, 2024 19:37:39 GMT
Vaccine mandates have existed since vaccines were invented. It's not new. Why are you freaking out about it only now? Not as a condition of keeping one's job in the private sector. This would be like saying the government can order everybody to get a buzz cut, and defending it by saying the military has been requiring buzz cuts for boot camp for generations, so why is it a big deal now?? Be honest. That choice was by the private sector businesses themselves, not by the government. And they can run their business however they choose, right? Just like the one who would not make a cake for gay newlyweds. NO ONE lost a job because the government forced people to get vaccinated. Why do you believe such nonsense? Freon |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 10, 2024 19:40:46 GMT
Not as a condition of keeping one's job in the private sector. This would be like saying the government can order everybody to get a buzz cut, and defending it by saying the military has been requiring buzz cuts for boot camp for generations, so why is it a big deal now?? Be honest. That choice was by the private sector businesses themselves, not by the government. And they can run their business however they choose, right? Just like the one who would not make a cake for gay newlyweds. NO ONE lost a job because the government forced people to get vaccinated. Why do you believe such nonsense? Freon It’s what he tried to do, genius. The Supreme Court stopped it. If somebody tries to kill you, and tells everybody that’s what he’s trying to do, but then he’s stopped by somebody else, did he not try to kill you? lol. law.stanford.edu/2022/01/20/a-look-at-the-supreme-court-ruling-on-vaccination-mandates/www.cnbc.com/2022/01/13/supreme-court-ruling-biden-covid-vaccine-mandates.html |
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Post by freonbale on Oct 10, 2024 19:47:20 GMT
That choice was by the private sector businesses themselves, not by the government. And they can run their business however they choose, right? Just like the one who would not make a cake for gay newlyweds. NO ONE lost a job because the government forced people to get vaccinated. Why do you believe such nonsense? Freon It’s what he tried to do, genius. The Supreme Court stopped it. If somebody tries to kill you, and tells everybody that’s what he’s trying to do, but then he’s stopped by somebody else, did he not try to kill you? lol. And yet your religion of hypocrisy has no issue with Donald ACTUALLY killing people based on his treating the pandemic like it was a hoax, and getting people to believe that they did not need to get vaccinated, to mask, or isolate. I work for a hospital system. I SAW people in tears as they realized that had they been vaccinated, they would not be there. That's the flipside of your position. Of the two, Donald did WAY more harm. Killed more people than any president in our history. Your giant complaint about Biden is that he had an idea, lol. But actual killing is totally ok. Like I said, I cannot deal with people who refuse to acknowledge the horror caused by their own side. Who see themselves in purely a good way, and view their adversary purely in a bad one. It's dishonest. It's dangerous. Freon |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 10, 2024 19:55:49 GMT
It’s what he tried to do, genius. The Supreme Court stopped it. If somebody tries to kill you, and tells everybody that’s what he’s trying to do, but then he’s stopped by somebody else, did he not try to kill you? lol. And yet your religion of hypocrisy has no issue with Donald ACTUALLY killing people based on his treating the pandemic like it was a hoax, and getting people to believe that they did not need to get vaccinated, to mask, or isolate. I work for a hospital system. I SAW people in tears as they realized that had they been vaccinated, they would not be there. That's the flipside of your position. Of the two, Donald did WAY more harm. Killed more people than any president in our history. Your giant complaint about Biden is that he had an idea, lol. But actual killing is totally ok. Like I said, I cannot deal with people who refuse to acknowledge the horror caused by their own side. Who see themselves in purely a good way, and view their adversary purely in a bad one. It's dishonest. It's dangerous. Freon Lmao. Imagine thinking yourself enlightened and educated and also believing that a president could have prevented every COVID death, or even a majority. Omg. In the fattest country on earth. Hahahahahaha. And then thinking that a president is guilty of murder if people die from an easily spread respiratory virus. One must truly believe in the omnipotence of government for this. Quick! Somebody call me a bootlicker because I don't believe a president is responsible for saving Americans from a respiratory virus!! |
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Post by freonbale on Oct 10, 2024 19:57:40 GMT
And yet your religion of hypocrisy has no issue with Donald ACTUALLY killing people based on his treating the pandemic like it was a hoax, and getting people to believe that they did not need to get vaccinated, to mask, or isolate. I work for a hospital system. I SAW people in tears as they realized that had they been vaccinated, they would not be there. That's the flipside of your position. Of the two, Donald did WAY more harm. Killed more people than any president in our history. Your giant complaint about Biden is that he had an idea, lol. But actual killing is totally ok. Like I said, I cannot deal with people who refuse to acknowledge the horror caused by their own side. Who see themselves in purely a good way, and view their adversary purely in a bad one. It's dishonest. It's dangerous. Freon Lmao. Imagine thinking yourself enlightened and educated and also believing that a president could have prevented every COVID death, or even a majority. Omg. In the fattest country on earth. Hahahahahaha. And then thinking that a president is guilty of murder if people die from an easily spread respiratory virus. One must truly believe in the omnipotence of government for this. Quick! Somebody call me a bootlicker because I don't believe a president is responsible for saving Americans from a respiratory virus!! So you DO acknowledge that his words killed people. And you're STILL ok with him? Sick. You. Are. Sick. Freon |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 10, 2024 20:05:46 GMT
Lmao. Imagine thinking yourself enlightened and educated and also believing that a president could have prevented every COVID death, or even a majority. Omg. In the fattest country on earth. Hahahahahaha. And then thinking that a president is guilty of murder if people die from an easily spread respiratory virus. One must truly believe in the omnipotence of government for this. Quick! Somebody call me a bootlicker because I don't believe a president is responsible for saving Americans from a respiratory virus!! So you DO acknowledge that his words killed people. So you ARE admitting that you believe in the existence of elves and dragons and bigfoot. You are sick. I am virtuous. You are SICK. *virtue preen virtue preen* |
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Post by freonbale on Oct 10, 2024 20:09:58 GMT
I love it when they do all the work of making themselves look like fools, for me.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 10, 2024 20:16:24 GMT
I love it when they do all the work of making themselves look like fools, for me. Freon Weird comma, bro. |
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Post by petep on Oct 10, 2024 20:24:25 GMT
Lmao. Imagine thinking yourself enlightened and educated and also believing that a president could have prevented every COVID death, or even a majority. Omg. In the fattest country on earth. Hahahahahaha. And then thinking that a president is guilty of murder if people die from an easily spread respiratory virus. One must truly believe in the omnipotence of government for this. Quick! Somebody call me a bootlicker because I don't believe a president is responsible for saving Americans from a respiratory virus!! So you DO acknowledge that his words killed people. And you're STILL ok with him? Sick. You. Are. Sick. Freon Yes Freon. Virtually everyone - 95 percent - who died of covid was elderly and / or had multiple co morbidities. And trump is responsible for their deaths. Do you truly understand how stupid you sound. Duh, trumps words killed them. The two I know who died WITH covid were counted as covid deaths both were stage 4 cancer patients in hospice when they got covid. Not a day that goes by that I say damn that trump. How dare he make them old with cancer. Yet I’m reminded visitors were allowed into the hospitals and nursing homes and hospice care facilities only on the basis of proof of a vaccine. Why? Because we were told by the Biden admin that if you are vaccinated you won’t get or spread covid. |
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Post by freonbale on Oct 10, 2024 20:37:14 GMT
So you DO acknowledge that his words killed people. And you're STILL ok with him? Sick. You. Are. Sick. Freon Yes Freon. Virtually everyone - 95 percent - who died of covid was elderly and / or had multiple co morbidities. And trump is responsible for their deaths. Do you truly understand how stupid you sound. Duh, trumps words killed them. The two I know who died WITH covid were counted as covid deaths both were stage 4 cancer patients in hospice when they got covid. Not a day that goes by that I say damn that trump. How dare he make them old with cancer. Yet I’m reminded visitors were allowed into the hospitals and nursing homes and hospice care facilities only on the basis of proof of a vaccine. Why? Because we were told by the Biden admin that if you are vaccinated you won’t get or spread covid. If I was saying what you are saying, then yes, I would also classify myself in the way you have. But I haven't. You are projecting, because even the SLIGHTEST accusation of Donald is too much for you to handle. You still don't believe in the efficacy of the vaccines? Wow. Freon |
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Post by HolyMoly on Oct 10, 2024 21:12:07 GMT
More wingnut alternative "history." I actually enjoy this junk because it's so out there.
And Hitler was never elected but appointed.
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Post by freonbale on Oct 10, 2024 21:12:28 GMT
I'm not even going to read that. If you have something to say, say it. If you have a point to make, make it. Web search is not Research. Almost no information you can link here will convince me of anything, so it is pointless for you to do so. That's just wisdom, which you clearly do not have. Freon |
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Post by petep on Oct 10, 2024 21:16:33 GMT
Yes Freon. Virtually everyone - 95 percent - who died of covid was elderly and / or had multiple co morbidities. And trump is responsible for their deaths. Do you truly understand how stupid you sound. Duh, trumps words killed them. The two I know who died WITH covid were counted as covid deaths both were stage 4 cancer patients in hospice when they got covid. Not a day that goes by that I say damn that trump. How dare he make them old with cancer. Yet I’m reminded visitors were allowed into the hospitals and nursing homes and hospice care facilities only on the basis of proof of a vaccine. Why? Because we were told by the Biden admin that if you are vaccinated you won’t get or spread covid. If I was saying what you are saying, then yes, I would also classify myself in the way you have. But I haven't. You are projecting, because even the SLIGHTEST accusation of Donald is too much for you to handle. You still don't believe in the efficacy of the vaccines? Wow. Freon Ahhh The old Freon strawman. I never said a single word about the efficacy of vaccines. Ever. No matter how often you use that false strawman. What I’ve said is that the Biden Harris admin stated if you are vaccinated you will not get or spread covid These are proven lies. And sadly, many hospitals and nursing homes opened their doors to vaccinated believing the lie. Here is what I know. The only way to know efficacy is for a person to get an antibody test to see if they have antibodies from either the vaccine or natural infection. My antibodies are at over 90 percent levels. From natural infection. My cousin has had every vaccine and booster. No antibodies. My brother in law has had every vaccine and covid and he gets like me Rhode Island was always in the top three states for vaccination rates. We also always led the nation for infection rates. Wastewater studies showed highly vaccinated rates with high COVID levels. Each persons immune system is different. If I were worried I’d get tested for antibodies. Then adjust behavior accordingly. I’m not saying the vaccines don’t work. I’m saying they did not do what was claimed they would do by the Biden Harris admin. |
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 10, 2024 21:17:56 GMT
FOX is not news. It is propaganda we all already know you're easily brainwashed by the democrat controlled media 🙄 Yet Trump’s dishonesty goes further than the usual campaign lying. He concocts and promotes utterly false narratives to shape voters’ perceptions of fundamental realities. |
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Post by thor on Oct 10, 2024 21:20:23 GMT
It didn’t start with gas chambers.
It started with one party controlling the media.
It started with one party controlling the message.
One party deciding what is true.
One party censoring speech and silencing opposition.
One party threatening to jail the opposition.
One party weaponizing government to persecute those who fail to conform.
One party dividing citizens into “us” and “them” and calling on their supporters to harass the “thems.”
It started when good people turned a blind eye and let it happen.
Only one major party in America meets the criteria above and it sure as hell isn't the Republicans or the conservatives.
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Post by thor on Oct 10, 2024 21:21:44 GMT
So you DO acknowledge that his words killed people. And you're STILL ok with him? Sick. You. Are. Sick. Freon And trump is responsible for their deaths. Do you truly understand how stupid you sound. Duh, trumps words killed them. The two I know who died WITH covid were counted as covid deaths both were stage 4 cancer patients in hospice when they got covid. Not a day that goes by that I say damn that trump. How dare he make them old with cancer. Yet I’m reminded visitors were allowed into the hospitals and nursing homes and hospice care facilities only on the basis of proof of a vaccine. Why? Because we were told by the Biden admin that if you are vaccinated you won’t get or spread covid. So they were expendable because freedum. I see. |
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Post by thor on Oct 10, 2024 21:23:27 GMT
and NOT realize it's talking about you.Freon Exactly.. and that fact is rooted in him being so abjectly stupid..
When you're as stupid as that .. there's no way you can know that you're stupid..
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Post by thor on Oct 10, 2024 21:26:56 GMT
Yeah, you know I am right Vaccine mandates. No school choice. Censoring media. Weaponizing Justice. A regular communist nirvana. PP wants a handout. |
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Post by freonbale on Oct 10, 2024 21:35:08 GMT
If I was saying what you are saying, then yes, I would also classify myself in the way you have. But I haven't. You are projecting, because even the SLIGHTEST accusation of Donald is too much for you to handle. You still don't believe in the efficacy of the vaccines? Wow. Freon Ahhh The old Freon strawman. I never said a single word about the efficacy of vaccines. Ever. No matter how often you use that false strawman. What I’ve said is that the Biden Harris admin stated if you are vaccinated you will not get or spread covid These are proven lies. And sadly, many hospitals and nursing homes opened their doors to vaccinated believing the lie. Here is what I know. The only way to know efficacy is for a person to get an antibody test to see if they have antibodies from either the vaccine or natural infection. My antibodies are at over 90 percent levels. From natural infection. My cousin has had every vaccine and booster. No antibodies. My brother in law has had every vaccine and covid and he gets like me Rhode Island was always in the top three states for vaccination rates. We also always led the nation for infection rates. Wastewater studies showed highly vaccinated rates with high COVID levels. Each persons immune system is different. If I were worried I’d get tested for antibodies. Then adjust behavior accordingly. I’m not saying the vaccines don’t work. I’m saying they did not do what was claimed they would do by the Biden Harris admin. Proven to you, maybe. What I saw was a leadership who realized they were communicating with a frightened populace, most of which do not possess the education to understand how immunology actually works. Their advice was to get vaccinated, and they would give the same advice today. So they simplified their message, and to those of us who DO understand the biology involved, it was not a lie, it was a simplification. And then there are people like you. People who do NOT have the education to understand the biology, and only 'know' things based on what their news tells them. And what did your news tell you? Why, to consider the simplification a lie, which is exactly what you are doing. Even hearing you discuss immunology is painful to my ears. You present the most superficial understanding, and I refuse to even engage someone with your obvious lack of true understanding in a serious conversation on the subject. Stop pretending like you actually understand these things. You don't. And when a smart person is in that situation, they rely on those who've spent decades becoming experts, who do. And the ONLY thing you need to know, is the qualifications of the expert, and how they became one. That, is your due diligence. But to you, Fox is an expert. You believe everything they say. Donald is an expert. His subordinate clowns are experts. The problem is you don't know an expert from a conman. Freon |
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