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Post by queshank on Oct 6, 2024 17:53:32 GMT
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Post by queshank on Oct 6, 2024 17:55:29 GMT
Meanwhile you have these not at all cult like people still freebasing establishment propaganda like they're North Korean citizens singing about Kim Jong wtfever.
^^ Truly mesmerizing.
Also child abuse damaging their brains that way.
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 6, 2024 19:22:21 GMT
^^ Truly mesmerizing. Also child abuse damaging their brains that way.
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Post by queshank on Oct 6, 2024 20:29:31 GMT
^^ Truly mesmerizing. Also child abuse damaging their brains that way.
Good catch.. Let's thank Jesus there aren't thousands of'um damaging their brains .. ..
Well at least you're acknowledging the religious similarities, even if the programming has destroyed your perception of scale and nuance.
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Post by thor on Oct 6, 2024 22:10:36 GMT
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 7, 2024 0:40:12 GMT
I know ..right? .. In what world is this even a thing..
"Random white girl swallows and changes her mind.. "
Q: "OMG This is YUGE .. Do you know what this means.. I do.. But I'm super duper clued in.. I'm stunned that you don't know what this means .. LOL .. Predicted it.. "
Forum: .. aww.. OK ..
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Post by bama beau on Oct 7, 2024 1:07:23 GMT
She's delusional.
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Post by VYPR on Oct 7, 2024 1:37:51 GMT
That's posted by someone called "Insurrection Barbie" on TikTok. Doesn't feel like a propaganda post at all! You went from general narcissistic skeptic to Jim Jones cultist. |
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Post by bama beau on Oct 7, 2024 17:03:31 GMT
That's posted by someone called "Insurrection Barbie" on TikTok. Doesn't feel like a propaganda post at all! You went from general narcissistic skeptic to Jim Jones cultist. To be fair, I'm not sure that Que supports trumP because he believes in anything trumP says, or if Que supports trumP because he thinks the rest of us deserve trumP for not listening to him (Que). |
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Post by petep on Oct 7, 2024 17:26:15 GMT
What I did find so telling - and she focuses on it - in early 2020 and into the summer when trump did his daily briefings Fox always ran it live. None of the other networks did. And it was explained that they would provide the summary of what he covered each day. When you’d watch him live and then later read their summary, almost none of what they reported was accurate. Or the spin was so negative I could not believe it So rather than have their viewers watch the original content, they took it upon themselves to tell them what was said. It’s no wonder the Biden Harris admin was pushing for and installed their disinformation governance board to crush free speech. It really told me just how manipulative the media had become. |
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 15:37:27 GMT
I know ..right? .. In what world is this even a thing..
"Random white girl swallows and changes her mind.. "
Q: "OMG This is YUGE .. Do you know what this means.. I do.. But I'm super duper clued in.. I'm stunned that you don't know what this means .. LOL .. Predicted it.. "
Forum: .. aww.. OK ..
lol
You guys keep trying to minimize the fact that people are making the conscious choice to abandon the Democrats and embrace ... *checks notes* ... Hitler.
Don't be so butthurt Fiddler. It's not a good look.
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 15:39:54 GMT
That's posted by someone called "Insurrection Barbie" on TikTok. Doesn't feel like a propaganda post at all! You went from general narcissistic skeptic to Jim Jones cultist. The video is shared by "insurrectionist barbie." The video is not of "insurrectionist barbie."
But now you're noticing why most people find the 'nightly news' propaganda. The source of information is a problem when the sources are biased and lacking in credibility.
Hey Vypr. Remember when I predicted news outlets abandoning credibility in favor of profits was gonna be a problem? Ahh good times. We were young then. And so full of promise.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 15:44:44 GMT
The MSM is guilty of what she says but alternative media is even worse when it comes to being faithful to the facts. Just like the GOP is really right about the elitist Democrats. The Democrats have largely abandoned the working class. They have pursued a neoliberal 3rd way politics that leaves working people largely on their own. The problem is this is just half the story because the GOP is far worse, and doesn't even pretend to want to increase the social safety net, reduce taxes on working people, or make healthcare affordable. I was upset when my wife dented my truck last week but I'm not going to go run it off the bridge in response. You don't make the situation worse just because it's not good. Take the lesser evil and work to make it tolerable. |
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 15:48:38 GMT
The MSM is guilty of what she says but alternative media is even worse when it comes to being faithful to the facts. Just like the GOP is really right about the elitist Democrats. The Democrats have largely abandoned the working class. They have pursued a neoliberal 3rd way politics that leaves working people largely on their own. The problem is this is just half the story because the GOP is far worse, and doesn't even pretend to want to increase the social safety net, reduce taxes on working people, or make healthcare affordable. I was upset when my wife dented my truck last week but I'm not going to go run it off the bridge in response. You don't make the situation worse just because it's not good. Take the lesser evil and work to make it tolerable.
See here's where the problem lies.
You think "increasing the social safety net", "reducing taxes on working people" (who already pay incredibly low taxes" are things people should support. Did you know the flip side to the 90% tax rates in the 1950s on upper earners is that the taxes on even the poorest were higher than they are right now too? There was no "we don't pay taxes" crowd. Everyone paid.
You don't just think that. You think *believing* (believing) that makes you more tuned in to what is in people's "best interests." Despite the fact that increasing the social safety net is not without its own downsides. (Seems like this could segue nicely into the hectoring black men thread.)
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 15:52:51 GMT
The MSM is guilty of what she says but alternative media is even worse when it comes to being faithful to the facts. Just like the GOP is really right about the elitist Democrats. The Democrats have largely abandoned the working class. They have pursued a neoliberal 3rd way politics that leaves working people largely on their own. The problem is this is just half the story because the GOP is far worse, and doesn't even pretend to want to increase the social safety net, reduce taxes on working people, or make healthcare affordable. I was upset when my wife dented my truck last week but I'm not going to go run it off the bridge in response. You don't make the situation worse just because it's not good. Take the lesser evil and work to make it tolerable.
See here's where the problem lies.
You think "increasing the social safety net", "reducing taxes on working people" (who already pay incredibly low taxes" are things people should support. Did you know the flip side to the 90% tax rates in the 1950s on upper earners is that the taxes on even the poorest were higher than they are right now too? There was no "we don't pay taxes" crowd. Everyone paid.
You don't just think that. You think *believing* (believing) that makes you more tuned in to what is in people's "best interests." Despite the fact that increasing the social safety net is not without its own downsides. (Seems like this could segue nicely into the hectoring black men thread.)
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That's your problem, not mine. I am not looking for perfection. Every policy has downsides. But the evidence suggests we are woefully underfunding our social safety net and that they are serious gains on the table for moving things in the other direction. I am not of the opinion that policy makers in the 1950s are the final word on what is possible. |
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Post by freonbale on Oct 15, 2024 15:55:32 GMT
I liked the part at 3:24, where the transliteration says that Donald should LEAVE this country, lol. So what I'm hearing here is a person who wiped clean any diversity in media consumption, and then listened to Donald with no other influences, and was fully suckered into his con. She's the perfect target for his messaging, as she is incapable of seeing through his emotional appeal. Bad guys and good guys? Protection with no specifics? She actually mentions her feelings multiple times through her admission. If you are someone who makes decisions based purely on emotional appeal, then you too, should vote for Donald, as you will Que. This is as much an admission for her, as it is for you. Freon |
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 16:00:18 GMT
See here's where the problem lies.
You think "increasing the social safety net", "reducing taxes on working people" (who already pay incredibly low taxes" are things people should support. Did you know the flip side to the 90% tax rates in the 1950s on upper earners is that the taxes on even the poorest were higher than they are right now too? There was no "we don't pay taxes" crowd. Everyone paid.
You don't just think that. You think *believing* (believing) that makes you more tuned in to what is in people's "best interests." Despite the fact that increasing the social safety net is not without its own downsides. (Seems like this could segue nicely into the hectoring black men thread.)
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That's your problem, not mine. I am not looking for perfection. Every policy has downsides. But the evidence suggests we are woefully underfunding our social safety net and that they are serious gains on the table for moving things in the other direction. I am not of the opinion that policy makers in the 1950s are the final word on what is possible.
"The evidence" huh?
ALL of the evidence?
It’s a scenario that many parents across New York State, particularly in low-income areas, have come to fear: A knock on the door from a Child Protective Services caseworker.
This is ultimately not a racial thing. Exactly the same welfare state policies and the same non-judgmental exemption from behavioral standards in Britain have led to remarkably similar results among lower-class whites there.
The riots of lower-class whites in London, Manchester and other British cities in 2011 were incredibly similar to black riots in Ferguson, Baltimore and other American cities — right down to setting fire to police cars.
See what I mean about a convenient segue to the thread on black voters?
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 16:18:30 GMT
www.nyclu.org/podcast/s2-ep-7-how-the-child-welfare-system-destroys-black-families-with-prof-dorothy-robertsThis is just the kind of thing I am talking about when I criticize Democrats for being too conservative, too neoliberal. But my take away, as opposed to yours, is not to use this as as an argument against having a social safety net, but rather to use it to say we aren't spending enough on taking care of people and we need to reorient our focus back to the common good. This is an argument for a social safety net not against it. And if that is our goal: building a better social safety net, I would argue the Democrats are your choice, relative to the GOP. That's where you have the greatest chance of moving things in the right direction, toward the left.
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 16:20:16 GMT
www.nyclu.org/podcast/s2-ep-7-how-the-child-welfare-system-destroys-black-families-with-prof-dorothy-robertsThis is just the king of thing I am talking about when I criticize Democrats for being too conservative, too neoliberal. But my take away, as opposed to yours, is not to use this as as an argument against having a social safety net, but rather use it to say we are spending enough on taking care of people and we need to reorient our focus back to the common good. This is an argument for a social safety net not against it. And if that is our goal: building a better social safety net, I would argue the Democrats are your choice, relative to the GOP. That's where you have the greatest chance of moving things in the right direction, toward the left.
Assuming of course you see bread and circuses for the poor and harvesting them to fight foreign engagements on behalf of the donor class's monetary interests as "the right direction."
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 16:21:11 GMT
www.nyclu.org/podcast/s2-ep-7-how-the-child-welfare-system-destroys-black-families-with-prof-dorothy-robertsThis is just the king of thing I am talking about when I criticize Democrats for being too conservative, too neoliberal. But my take away, as opposed to yours, is not to use this as as an argument against having a social safety net, but rather use it to say we are spending enough on taking care of people and we need to reorient our focus back to the common good. This is an argument for a social safety net not against it. And if that is our goal: building a better social safety net, I would argue the Democrats are your choice, relative to the GOP. That's where you have the greatest chance of moving things in the right direction, toward the left.
Assuming of course you see bread and circuses for the poor and harvesting them to fight foreign engagements on behalf of the donor class's monetary interests as "the right direction."
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