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Post by Fiddler on Sept 13, 2024 15:45:08 GMT
Pete, we've been through this a hundred times. "Authoritarianism" is largely separate from the right/left political paradigm. Russia is antidemocratic, profoundly criminal, and wholly opposed to the rule of law. It has almost no vestiges of extreme socialist political structures remaining. It seeks to degrade Westeen norms of democracy & rule of law, through influencing campaigns. It is not connected to Western left thought in any way, other than (probably) using Left groups as disruptors just as ir does use Righr groups. I give you Brexit. The free enterprise and private ownership stuff. Which isn’t all that bad. Yes, p.. It's so 'not all that bad' that nearly 100% of Americans support the idea..
Did those Russian 'influencers' get to you too ?
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Post by petep on Sept 13, 2024 16:05:25 GMT
The free enterprise and private ownership stuff. Which isn’t all that bad. Yes, p.. It's so 'not all that bad' that nearly 100% of Americans support the idea..
Did those Russian 'influencers' get to you too ?
I’m being sarcastic. Make America great and free enterprise and private ownership have become terrible things in Americas lefts eyes |
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 13, 2024 16:18:16 GMT
Yes, p.. It's so 'not all that bad' that nearly 100% of Americans support the idea..
Did those Russian 'influencers' get to you too ?
I’m being sarcastic. Make America great and free enterprise and private ownership have become terrible things in Americas lefts eyesAhh.. So you're saying that you ARE a victim Russian 'influencers' ...
Seriously p .. America will survive you guys.. though we may have to flush twice ..
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Post by atreyu on Sept 13, 2024 16:34:37 GMT
Yeah, that's what he said.... what did you watch? You think he's full of shit for agreeing with you?
LOLZ
He brought up Pool, Rubin, and Benny Johnson (?) as if they were knowingly taking Russian money. Watch the first minute again if you don’t believe me.
LOL watch the whole thing.
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Post by atreyu on Sept 13, 2024 16:36:09 GMT
Meanwhile MAGA posters here do it for free LOL
What was the Biden family paid for by the millions from China and other communist countries?
Do you take dog poop and smear it all over your face and lick it on a daily basis?
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 13, 2024 16:39:51 GMT
He brought up Pool, Rubin, and Benny Johnson (?) as if they were knowingly taking Russian money. Watch the first minute again if you don’t believe me.
LOL watch the whole thing.
LOL I'm not going to watch that guy for a half hour. Imagine thinking that people are just going to watch whatever loony video you want them to watch that's 30 minutes long omg. |
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Post by atreyu on Sept 13, 2024 16:57:47 GMT
LOL watch the whole thing.
LOL I'm not going to watch that guy for a half hour. Imagine thinking that people are just going to watch whatever loony video you want them to watch that's 30 minutes long omg.
So you admit you came away with conclusions that you have no basis for. That's what you normally do, but glad you're actually being straight up about it here.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 13, 2024 17:18:16 GMT
LOL I'm not going to watch that guy for a half hour. Imagine thinking that people are just going to watch whatever loony video you want them to watch that's 30 minutes long omg.
So you admit you came away with conclusions that you have no basis for. That's what you normally do, but glad you're actually being straight up about it here.
Did you read all 900 pages of Spooky Project 2025? Or did you come to conclusions based on some summarized form of it? Or what you were told to think about it? Let me know. |
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Post by thor on Sept 13, 2024 17:55:58 GMT
Pete, we've been through this a hundred times. "Authoritarianism" is largely separate from the right/left political paradigm. Russia is antidemocratic, profoundly criminal, and wholly opposed to the rule of law. It has almost no vestiges of extreme socialist political structures remaining. It seeks to degrade Westeen norms of democracy & rule of law, through influencing campaigns. It is not connected to Western left thought in any way, other than (probably) using Left groups as disruptors just as ir does use Righr groups. I give you Brexit. I agree that authoritarian can be either, historically speaking Clearly these days there are far more example of hard left (socialist / communist) examples of authoritarians. Russia is 11 time zones I believe. I have several contacts in Russia via a good friend who I sponsored to become a us citizen years ago to be our lead developer. When you talk with people in Russia they will tell you that outside of Moscow not much has changed since the communist days. Still authoritarian. Still don’t get to choose education tracts. Still scared to death of offending govt officials. Regardless. I was simply quoting oxfords definition of right wing. The free enterprise and private ownership stuff. Which isn’t all that bad. PP makes up another bullshit story. |
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Post by petep on Sept 13, 2024 18:06:54 GMT
I agree that authoritarian can be either, historically speaking Clearly these days there are far more example of hard left (socialist / communist) examples of authoritarians. Russia is 11 time zones I believe. I have several contacts in Russia via a good friend who I sponsored to become a us citizen years ago to be our lead developer. When you talk with people in Russia they will tell you that outside of Moscow not much has changed since the communist days. Still authoritarian. Still don’t get to choose education tracts. Still scared to death of offending govt officials. Regardless. I was simply quoting oxfords definition of right wing. The free enterprise and private ownership stuff. Which isn’t all that bad. PP makes up another bullshit story. You’re right. Russia is a beacon of freedom. |
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Post by greebnurt on Sept 13, 2024 18:11:19 GMT
Pete, we've been through this a hundred times. "Authoritarianism" is largely separate from the right/left political paradigm. Russia is antidemocratic, profoundly criminal, and wholly opposed to the rule of law. It has almost no vestiges of extreme socialist political structures remaining. It seeks to degrade Westeen norms of democracy & rule of law, through influencing campaigns. It is not connected to Western left thought in any way, other than (probably) using Left groups as disruptors just as ir does use Righr groups. I give you Brexit. I agree that authoritarian can be either, historically speaking Clearly these days there are far more example of hard left (socialist / communist) examples of authoritarians. Russia is 11 time zones I believe. I have several contacts in Russia via a good friend who I sponsored to become a us citizen years ago to be our lead developer. When you talk with people in Russia they will tell you that outside of Moscow not much has changed since the communist days. Still authoritarian. Still don’t get to choose education tracts. Still scared to death of offending govt officials. Regardless. I was simply quoting oxfords definition of right wing. The free enterprise and private ownership stuff. Which isn’t all that bad. What in tf is wrong with you??? |
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Post by HolyMoly on Sept 13, 2024 21:04:36 GMT
Useless idiots.
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Post by runswithscissors on Sept 14, 2024 13:04:22 GMT
Meanwhile MAGA posters here do it for free LOL
I think this latest example of how easily played these nutjobs are goes real good with Comer's FBI informant impeachment "witness" that turned out to be a Russian intelligence operative. Last I heard that guy is still in jail. |
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Post by atreyu on Sept 14, 2024 16:02:30 GMT
So you admit you came away with conclusions that you have no basis for. That's what you normally do, but glad you're actually being straight up about it here.
Did you read all 900 pages of Spooky Project 2025? Or did you come to conclusions based on some summarized form of it? Or what you were told to think about it? Let me know.
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Now watch a summarized form of that video and maybe you wouldn't be firing strawmen. If you had evidence the things Project 2025 says is not true you would have presented them.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 14, 2024 16:37:21 GMT
Did you read all 900 pages of Spooky Project 2025? Or did you come to conclusions based on some summarized form of it? Or what you were told to think about it? Let me know.
No
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Now watch a summarized form of that video and maybe you wouldn't be firing strawmen. If you had evidence the things Project 2025 says is not true you would have presented them.
You should show the summarized version. If there isn’t one, then I’m not sure what you want me to do. I’m sorry your idea for a thread sucked. |
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Post by atreyu on Sept 14, 2024 16:44:14 GMT
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Now watch a summarized form of that video and maybe you wouldn't be firing strawmen. If you had evidence the things Project 2025 says is not true you would have presented them.
You should show the summarized version. If there isn’t one, then I’m not sure what you want me to do. I’m sorry your idea for a thread sucked.
I don't expect you to do anything. Come away with false assumptions and you'll be called on it. Sorry you failed.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 14, 2024 18:21:00 GMT
You should show the summarized version. If there isn’t one, then I’m not sure what you want me to do. I’m sorry your idea for a thread sucked.
I don't expect you to do anything. Come away with false assumptions and you'll be called on it. Sorry you failed.
BUT YOU HAVENT READ EVERYTHING IVE EVER WRITTEN SO YOU DONT KNOW MAYBE SOMEWHERE ELSE I TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I SAID THAT YOU DISAGREED WITH SORRY YOURE MAKING SO MANY FALSE ASSUMPTIONS READ EVERYTHING IVE EVER THOUGHT BEFORE YOU JUMP TO TERRIBLE CONCLUSIONS |
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Post by thor on Sept 14, 2024 21:06:05 GMT
I don't expect you to do anything. Come away with false assumptions and you'll be called on it. Sorry you failed.
BUT YOU HAVENT READ EVERYTHING IVE EVER WRITTEN SO YOU DONT KNOW MAYBE SOMEWHERE ELSE I TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I SAID THAT YOU DISAGREED WITH SORRY YOURE MAKING SO MANY FALSE ASSUMPTIONS READ EVERYTHING IVE EVER THOUGHT BEFORE YOU JUMP TO TERRIBLE CONCLUSIONS Fobbit is feeling oppressed again.  |
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 14, 2024 21:06:40 GMT
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