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Post by thor on Sept 9, 2024 4:04:03 GMT
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Post by archie on Sept 9, 2024 13:45:48 GMT
DeSantis is doing the right thing. If the law is passed by the majority of the people, no crooked voting like how Trump lost, then the people will accept the law. There is no reason for r a woman to get pregnant if she does not want to. There are medical ways to prevent it to start. Then that child that if born was the doctor that invents the cure for cancer will not be lost.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 9, 2024 14:58:18 GMT
Are you saying if a law enforcement agency shows up and asks questions then that’s intimidating?
Are you sure?
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Post by sokpupet on Sept 9, 2024 15:39:15 GMT
Multiple court cases filed for Trump claiming voter fraud all failed! There have been 60 ish lawsuits filed in AZ byTrump attorneys ahead of this election claiming rigged machines and the rest of their BS. All of those cases have lost. There is not enough voter fraud to sway any state’s election!!!!!
DeSantis is a wannabe still. He will lose his next election.
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Post by sokpupet on Sept 9, 2024 15:40:48 GMT
Are you saying if a law enforcement agency shows up and asks questions then that’s intimidating? Are you sure? Yes. It is intimidating since they have no grounds to visit anyone signing a petition. This voter fraud is Bull Shyte!
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 9, 2024 16:25:20 GMT
Are you saying if a law enforcement agency shows up and asks questions then that’s intimidating? Are you sure? Yes. It is intimidating since they have no grounds to visit anyone signing a petition. This voter fraud is Bull Shyte! They're just asking questions. They're partnering with local people. Like when the FBI went to Facebook and partnered with them and lied to them about the Hunter Biden laptop story. It was fine. Nobody went to jail or anything. It's fine.
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 9, 2024 16:45:17 GMT
Yes. It is intimidating since they have no grounds to visit anyone signing a petition. This voter fraud is Bull Shyte! They're just asking questions. They're partnering with local people. Like when the FBI went to Facebook and partnered with them and lied to them about the Hunter Biden laptop story. It was fine. Nobody went to jail or anything. It's fine. Now.. if only those two occurrences were remotely similar.. they're not.. for that matter even if what you said were true.. it isn't .. A better analogy would be if cops showed up at the door to intimidate people who had signed a "No Drag Shows Allowed" petition.. but we know that'll never happen ..
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 9, 2024 16:46:45 GMT
They're just asking questions. They're partnering with local people. Like when the FBI went to Facebook and partnered with them and lied to them about the Hunter Biden laptop story. It was fine. Nobody went to jail or anything. It's fine. Now.. if only those two occurrences were remotely similar.. they're not.. for that matter even if what you said were true.. it isn't .. A better analogy would be if cops showed up at the door to intimidate people who had signed a "No Drag Shows Allowed" petition.. but we know that'll never happen .. When law enforcement shows up, there’s no immediate intimidation, is there? Just talking. Nobody went to jail.
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Post by sokpupet on Sept 9, 2024 17:14:34 GMT
Yes. It is intimidating since they have no grounds to visit anyone signing a petition. This voter fraud is Bull Shyte! They're just asking questions. They're partnering with local people. Like when the FBI went to Facebook and partnered with them and lied to them about the Hunter Biden laptop story. It was fine. Nobody went to jail or anything. It's fine. There is a history in Florida. www.flgov.com/2022/08/18/governor-desantis-announces-the-arrest-of-20-elections-criminals/“… FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Today, Governor Ron DeSantis announced that following investigations by the Florida Office of Election Crimes and Security and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE), 20 individuals are being arrested by FDLE for breaking Florida’s elections laws. All 20 of these individuals were disqualified from voting after they were convicted of murder or a felony sexual offense, but they chose to vote anyway, and now they have all been charged with voter fraud — a third-degree felony punishable by up to a $5,000 fine and up to 5 years in prison. Additionally, Governor DeSantis directed the Department of State to communicate to county Supervisors of Elections with instructions on records they must preserve until additional reviews and investigations are complete. …” apnews.com/article/ron-desantis-voting-rights-florida-crime-arrests-31f2ed111f69f11950f745da9183f0cfTALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Newly released police bodycam footage shows that three of the 20 people who were arrested in Florida for allegedly voting illegally in the 2020 election appeared to be surprised that they had done anything wrong. “… The recordings, made by local police and obtained by the Tampa Bay Times, were published after Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis in August announced charges against the suspects as the first major public move of his controversial election police unit. …”
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 9, 2024 17:19:39 GMT
Now.. if only those two occurrences were remotely similar.. they're not.. for that matter even if what you said were true.. it isn't .. A better analogy would be if cops showed up at the door to intimidate people who had signed a "No Drag Shows Allowed" petition.. but we know that'll never happen .. When law enforcement shows up, there’s no immediate intimidation, is there? Just talking. Nobody went to jail. You want to make it sound like police officers showing up unannounced at your home for reasons at first unclear to you is the same as an arranged meeting .. phone call actually.. at your office for business related reasons ..
You sound desperate ..
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Post by thor on Sept 9, 2024 18:08:20 GMT
When law enforcement shows up, there’s no immediate intimidation, is there? Just talking. Nobody went to jail. You want to make it sound like police officers showing up unannounced at your home for reasons at first unclear to you is the same as an arranged meeting .. phone call actually.. at your office for business related reasons ..
You sound desperate ..
Scratch a right-libertarian, find a Fascist. Every time.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 9, 2024 18:45:30 GMT
They're just asking questions. They're partnering with local people. Like when the FBI went to Facebook and partnered with them and lied to them about the Hunter Biden laptop story. It was fine. Nobody went to jail or anything. It's fine. There is a history in Florida. www.flgov.com/2022/08/18/governor-desantis-announces-the-arrest-of-20-elections-criminals/“… FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Today, Governor Ron DeSantis announced that following investigations by the Florida Office of Election Crimes and Security and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE), 20 individuals are being arrested by FDLE for breaking Florida’s elections laws. All 20 of these individuals were disqualified from voting after they were convicted of murder or a felony sexual offense, but they chose to vote anyway, and now they have all been charged with voter fraud — a third-degree felony punishable by up to a $5,000 fine and up to 5 years in prison. Additionally, Governor DeSantis directed the Department of State to communicate to county Supervisors of Elections with instructions on records they must preserve until additional reviews and investigations are complete. …” apnews.com/article/ron-desantis-voting-rights-florida-crime-arrests-31f2ed111f69f11950f745da9183f0cfTALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Newly released police bodycam footage shows that three of the 20 people who were arrested in Florida for allegedly voting illegally in the 2020 election appeared to be surprised that they had done anything wrong. “… The recordings, made by local police and obtained by the Tampa Bay Times, were published after Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis in August announced charges against the suspects as the first major public move of his controversial election police unit. …” That son of a bitch wouldn't let murderers and felony sexual offenders vote, and the murderers "appeared to be surprised" (!!!) when they were arrested. That was an important contribution.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 9, 2024 18:47:04 GMT
When law enforcement shows up, there’s no immediate intimidation, is there? Just talking. Nobody went to jail. You want to make it sound like police officers showing up unannounced at your home for reasons at first unclear to you is the same as an arranged meeting .. phone call actually.. at your office for business related reasons ..
You sound desperate ..
So the announcing is the important bit. Then it becomes intimidation. If they announce it, like the FBI did, then it's just a partnership. Did the policemen lie to the people they visited the way the FBI lied to Facebook? Nobody got arrested. It's just a visit from partner law enforcement.
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 9, 2024 19:04:48 GMT
You want to make it sound like police officers showing up unannounced at your home for reasons at first unclear to you is the same as an arranged meeting .. phone call actually.. at your office for business related reasons ..
You sound desperate ..
So the announcing is the important bit. Then it becomes intimidation. If they announce it, like the FBI did, then it's just a partnership. Did the policemen lie to the people they visited the way the FBI lied to Facebook? Nobody got arrested. It's just a visit from partner law enforcement. Yes.. I think an honest person would say that an unannounced appearance at your home by uniformed officers for unspecified reasons would be considerably more intimidating than an arranged meeting with FBI agents at a corporate mega-site where your business partners and company lawyers were also present ..
But sure.. I understand you have your little narrative to defend so .. . .
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Post by sokpupet on Sept 9, 2024 19:49:53 GMT
There is a history in Florida. www.flgov.com/2022/08/18/governor-desantis-announces-the-arrest-of-20-elections-criminals/“… FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Today, Governor Ron DeSantis announced that following investigations by the Florida Office of Election Crimes and Security and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE), 20 individuals are being arrested by FDLE for breaking Florida’s elections laws. All 20 of these individuals were disqualified from voting after they were convicted of murder or a felony sexual offense, but they chose to vote anyway, and now they have all been charged with voter fraud — a third-degree felony punishable by up to a $5,000 fine and up to 5 years in prison. Additionally, Governor DeSantis directed the Department of State to communicate to county Supervisors of Elections with instructions on records they must preserve until additional reviews and investigations are complete. …” apnews.com/article/ron-desantis-voting-rights-florida-crime-arrests-31f2ed111f69f11950f745da9183f0cfTALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Newly released police bodycam footage shows that three of the 20 people who were arrested in Florida for allegedly voting illegally in the 2020 election appeared to be surprised that they had done anything wrong. “… The recordings, made by local police and obtained by the Tampa Bay Times, were published after Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis in August announced charges against the suspects as the first major public move of his controversial election police unit. …” That son of a bitch wouldn't let murderers and felony sexual offenders vote, and the murderers "appeared to be surprised" (!!!) when they were arrested. That was an important contribution. You obviously didn’t read both links.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 9, 2024 19:55:24 GMT
So the announcing is the important bit. Then it becomes intimidation. If they announce it, like the FBI did, then it's just a partnership. Did the policemen lie to the people they visited the way the FBI lied to Facebook? Nobody got arrested. It's just a visit from partner law enforcement. Yes.. I think an honest person would say that an unannounced appearance at your home by uniformed officers for unspecified reasons would be considerably more intimidating than an arranged meeting with FBI agents at a corporate mega-site where your business partners and company lawyers were also present ..
But sure.. I understand you have your little narrative to defend so .. . .
In retrospect, if I found out that the law enforcement were lying to me, based on lies from the national intelligence community, that would scare me more. And it does. Obviously. Particularly if it was just a couple years after a senior senator told me that I had to police misinformation or the federal government would do it for me. That has much more profound implications. I don't like either one. One is election interference though, isn't it. Subverting SACRED DEMOCRACY.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 9, 2024 19:57:06 GMT
That son of a bitch wouldn't let murderers and felony sexual offenders vote, and the murderers "appeared to be surprised" (!!!) when they were arrested. That was an important contribution. You obviously didn’t read both links. I read what you posted. I didn't go through all links though, no. Why not post stuff that actually adds to your case, if it exists? I didn't assume you would add irrelevant stuff that made it appear that preventing murderers and sexual assault felons from voting was the least important thing you could find.
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Post by sokpupet on Sept 9, 2024 20:04:36 GMT
You obviously didn’t read both links. I read what you posted. I didn't go through all links though, no. Why not post stuff that actually adds to your case, if it exists? I didn't assume you would add irrelevant stuff that made it appear that preventing murderers and sexual assault felons from voting was the least important thing you could find. You said you didn’t read “all” my links? There were x2 and I posted a couple of paragraphs from each. I’ve raised my kid. No time to spoon feed you.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 9, 2024 20:22:01 GMT
I read what you posted. I didn't go through all links though, no. Why not post stuff that actually adds to your case, if it exists? I didn't assume you would add irrelevant stuff that made it appear that preventing murderers and sexual assault felons from voting was the least important thing you could find. You said you didn’t read “all” my links? There were x2 and I posted a couple of paragraphs from each. I’ve raised my kid. No time to spoon feed you. Why would you choose to add from the links about how some murderers and sexual assault felons were prevented from voting? If you think that's bad, then say it. If you think that's ok, then why would you pull those quotes from the links? You're not just not spoon-feeding me, you're presenting an argument that makes it easy for me to dismiss. You're showing me how some murderers were prevented from voting as if I shouldn't see that as a good thing.
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 9, 2024 20:55:46 GMT
DeSantis is doing the right thing. If the law is passed by the majority of the people, no crooked voting like how Trump lost, then the people will accept the law. There is no reason for r a woman to get pregnant if she does not want to. There are medical ways to prevent it to start. Then that child that if born was the doctor that invents the cure for cancer will not be lost. The people want a pro-choice abortion referendum on the ballot this November. The is what the petition is for. That haven't voted on anything. DeSantis signed a bill that has not been voted on by the people.
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