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Post by DaveJavu on Sept 6, 2024 5:49:52 GMT
It’s a direct result of the most powerful government in world history dabbling in censorship of social networks to protect their preferred elites. Yeah, without the police there would be no crime!!! You fucking moron!!!!
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Post by DaveJavu on Sept 6, 2024 5:50:54 GMT
Well, there ya go! That kind of thinking got 4 people killed today. I wouldn’t ever support the hellacious lies/misinformation from within the DP. There have been some with which I have been disappointed. The Right just double down on their lies etc. Omg your way of thinking just slaughtered an entire race of people! How does genocide feel you monster!! And omg Joe Biden is soooo sharp and focused lol! Fuck you, bastard!!!
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Post by DaveJavu on Sept 6, 2024 5:52:51 GMT
LOL.. Is that what you guys are calling 'lies' these days .. ? What do you care? Look at this trash site you are running. Go away!!!
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Post by DaveJavu on Sept 6, 2024 5:56:50 GMT
Don't left the door hit you in the ass ..
BTW Nitwit.. I'm not Admin of LNF .. .. I'm its Savior ..
I may stick around for just a wee bit longer. You probably ride the subway just so you can incommodate people with your body stench, asshole! Fuck the fuck off!!!
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Post by Lomelis on Sept 6, 2024 6:08:25 GMT
I may stick around for just a wee bit longer. You probably ride the subway just so you can incommodate people with your body stench, asshole! Fuck the fuck off!!! Lol@the several spasm posts. Dude, meth is not good for you.
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Post by DaveJavu on Sept 6, 2024 10:19:05 GMT
You probably ride the subway just so you can incommodate people with your body stench, asshole! Fuck the fuck off!!! Lol@the several spasm posts. Dude, meth is not good for you. I am sorry shitbag but stinking up the room is not your exclusive domain. You'll have to share the trophy with monster fuck, though the two of you assholes are so much alike that I don't believe it will be a problem, will it?
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Post by demos on Sept 6, 2024 12:56:06 GMT
Yes, only up to the point that the government of Brazil can start seizing assets... there is only so much Musk can do, but he arguable does a whole hell of a lot more than most. I am fine with someone fighting the good fight as much as they can. You should be to. Except Musk isn't a Durov or an Assange. He's not willing to pay a heavy price for free speech. When it hurts his bottom line, he's going to cave.
So be wary of putting much faith in his dedication to this issue.
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 6, 2024 13:18:42 GMT
I may stick around for just a wee bit longer. You probably ride the subway just so you can incommodate people with your body stench, asshole! Fuck the fuck off!!! Oh nice, I learned a new word today. Thanks!
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 6, 2024 13:19:03 GMT
What do you care? Look at this trash site you are running. Go away!!! Speaking of trash...
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 6, 2024 13:25:21 GMT
It’s a direct result of the most powerful government in world history dabbling in censorship of social networks to protect their preferred elites. No American government entity forced any of the social networks to censor anything. This is not to say they did not ASK for that to happen, but the accusation is that the companies had no choice. If you cannot prove that last part, then your complaint is misplaced, and you are a conspiracy theorist. Freon You would therefore support a local mafia that asks small business owners to pay them for "protection money". If the FBI tells Zuckerberg that the Hunter Biden shit was Russian disinformation, and Diane Feinstein had a few years before that threatened your companies around cleaning up disinformation, then the not-so-subtle implication is clear. Go ahead and call me an authoritarian when you support a government threatening a company about free speech on their platform.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 6, 2024 13:25:43 GMT
Omg your way of thinking just slaughtered an entire race of people! How does genocide feel you monster!! And omg Joe Biden is soooo sharp and focused lol! Fuck you, bastard!!! Calm down.
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 6, 2024 13:26:30 GMT
Yes, only up to the point that the government of Brazil can start seizing assets... there is only so much Musk can do, but he arguable does a whole hell of a lot more than most. I am fine with someone fighting the good fight as much as they can. You should be to. Except Musk isn't a Durov or an Assange. He's not willing to pay a heavy price for free speech. When it hurts his bottom line, he's going to cave.
So be wary of putting much faith in his dedication to this issue.
How much did he pay for X? How much is he paying in loss of advertisers? Seriously, your position here is absurd. I am not putting my faith in him, I am simply stating the reality that right now out of all the major platforms, X is the place to be for free speech and a whole lot less censoring going on.
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Post by RinsePrius on Sept 6, 2024 13:28:57 GMT
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Post by demos on Sept 6, 2024 13:39:48 GMT
How much did he pay for X? How much is he paying in loss of advertisers? Seriously, your position here is absurd. I am not putting my faith in him, I am simply stating the reality that right now out of all the major platforms, X is the place to be for free speech and a whole lot less censoring going on. How's it absurd? You have the evidence in front of you (his bottom line isn't just about Twitter but his interrelated businesses).
And in case you needed any more:
Musk talks a good game. His actual dedication to free speech, not so good.
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 6, 2024 14:03:31 GMT
How much did he pay for X? How much is he paying in loss of advertisers? Seriously, your position here is absurd. I am not putting my faith in him, I am simply stating the reality that right now out of all the major platforms, X is the place to be for free speech and a whole lot less censoring going on. How's it absurd? You have the evidence in front of you (his bottom line isn't just about Twitter but his interrelated businesses).
And in case you needed any more:
Musk talks a good game. His actual dedication to free speech, not so good.
The only "evidence" you offer is that he is subject to the laws in other countries and can only do so much... duh.
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Post by demos on Sept 6, 2024 14:07:26 GMT
The only "evidence" you offer is that he is subject to the laws in other countries and can only do so much... duh. He's doing more than the prior ownership did.
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 6, 2024 14:55:37 GMT
The only "evidence" you offer is that he is subject to the laws in other countries and can only do so much... duh. He's doing more than the prior ownership did.
Those countries are doing more in passing laws limiting speech and demanding more censorship...
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Post by demos on Sept 6, 2024 15:04:19 GMT
Those countries are doing more in passing laws limiting speech and demanding more censorship... Even if they are, you're just using that as a rationalization to avoid the actual issue.
You touted Musk's dedication to free speech: "Thank goodness we have Musk and X, dedicated to free speech, where we can go for real, uncensored information..."
That's objectively not the case (and it wasn't case before he bought it either).
Also, if the US passed stricter social media laws, would Musk comply? His actions elsewhere suggest he would.
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Post by freonbale on Sept 6, 2024 15:21:23 GMT
No American government entity forced any of the social networks to censor anything. This is not to say they did not ASK for that to happen, but the accusation is that the companies had no choice. If you cannot prove that last part, then your complaint is misplaced, and you are a conspiracy theorist. Freon You would therefore support a local mafia that asks small business owners to pay them for "protection money". If the FBI tells Zuckerberg that the Hunter Biden shit was Russian disinformation, and Diane Feinstein had a few years before that threatened your companies around cleaning up disinformation, then the not-so-subtle implication is clear. Go ahead and call me an authoritarian when you support a government threatening a company about free speech on their platform. Strawman. False equivalency. The local mafia would enforce their 'request' with force. The FBI already works with all the major corporations of the country. It's called INFRAGARD, and it is a mutual relationship, where corporations leverage the expertise of the FBI to protect themselves from cyberattacks and other threats, and the FBI uses the corporations for situational awareness, best practices, etc. It's a relationship between the two sides, developed over decades, and it protects you EVERY SINGLE DAY, but all you can see is Big Brother. Your ignorance of how your country ACTUALLY works, is why you hold your positions. If I thought for a second that the FBI was acting in any type of authoritarian fashion, I would be against it completely. But I've yet to see that. If you want me to see things as you do, just show me where the FBI FORCED a company to do something. Tell me what the consequence was if they didn't comply. Stop getting your news from pulp fiction magazines, and start learning. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 6, 2024 15:46:54 GMT
Those countries are doing more in passing laws limiting speech and demanding more censorship... Even if they are, you're just using that as a rationalization to avoid the actual issue.
You touted Musk's dedication to free speech: "Thank goodness we have Musk and X, dedicated to free speech, where we can go for real, uncensored information..."
That's objectively not the case (and it wasn't case before he bought it either).
Also, if the US passed stricter social media laws, would Musk comply? His actions elsewhere suggest he would.
Even if? The links you provided stated as much. No if. Yes, that is objectively the case. I don't know if you spend much of any time on any of the other major social media platforms, including YouTube or others, but they are massively self censored and target wrong speak like daring to speak out against climate change alarmism, transgenderism, etc... if you are not politically correct/woke enough you get shut down. Guns? Shut down. Gun store? Shut down. Businesses destroyed by Facebook as they have shut them down after years of building an online presence. Never mind their voluntary cooperation with the FBI and our own government administration on shutting down speech and accounts. He has also stated several times now that he will do what he can up to the law and then do what he can to oppose the law. You expecting Musk to break the law when he doesn't, doesn't mean he isn't clearly a champion for free speech.
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