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Post by johnnybgood on Sept 9, 2024 0:27:19 GMT
ARs are the most common used/talked about in mass shootings. Im just saying taking certain one's like this off the market is not a violation of our rights. Im not saying it will stop anything. No, they are not the most used... they are certainly the most talked about and because of that... they are used more. It is in fact, a direct violation of our rights and the constitution as these are common arms in use. So, you want to get rid of them... knowing it won't stop anything? thats why i said "/talked about". The media mentions AR's in mass shootings the most . I didn't say "I want to get rid of them. I said "I don't think it violates my rights". |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 9, 2024 0:40:15 GMT
No, they are not the most used... they are certainly the most talked about and because of that... they are used more. It is in fact, a direct violation of our rights and the constitution as these are common arms in use. So, you want to get rid of them... knowing it won't stop anything? thats why i said "/talked about". The media mentions AR's in mass shootings the most . I didn't say "I want to get rid of them. I said "I don't think it violates my rights". You said: "I'd rather have a ban on "certain guns"." Me: "What "certain guns" are you talking about?" You: "ARs are the most common used/talked about in mass shootings." Let me know when you figure out what it is you are advocating for here. |
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Post by johnnybgood on Sept 9, 2024 1:15:21 GMT
thats why i said "/talked about". The media mentions AR's in mass shootings the most . I didn't say "I want to get rid of them. I said "I don't think it violates my rights". You said: "I'd rather have a ban on "certain guns"." Me: "What "certain guns" are you talking about?" You: "ARs are the most common used/talked about in mass shootings." Let me know when you figure out what it is you are advocating for here. "Rather" Yes. Rather doesn't mean "want". I'd Rather have the Raiders win the SB then KC. Doesn't mean I want the Raiders to win. Talked about. Ok I'll go with that part. That's a fact. Most used is not, I guess. |
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 9, 2024 2:11:51 GMT
No. Every school should have armed school resource officers and 14 year olds should not possess an AR So... now you support SRO's in schools? I always have. Keep up |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 9, 2024 13:54:13 GMT
You said: "I'd rather have a ban on "certain guns"." Me: "What "certain guns" are you talking about?" You: "ARs are the most common used/talked about in mass shootings." Let me know when you figure out what it is you are advocating for here. "Rather" Yes. Rather doesn't mean "want". I'd Rather have the Raiders win the SB then KC. Doesn't mean I want the Raiders to win. Talked about. Ok I'll go with that part. That's a fact. Most used is not, I guess. Sure dude. Rather is just a measure of degree of certainty... so you have some desire to ban "certain guns" except I have no idea how much desire or under what circumstances. So... it would be great if you did have a POV on this if you clarified. |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 9, 2024 13:54:53 GMT
So... now you support SRO's in schools? I always have. Keep up Not really, earlier you were talking about how much $$$ this would cost and that you would rather just ban guns... |
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 9, 2024 17:55:06 GMT
Gunfuckers and First Amendment absolutists .. very often one and the same .. use the same tactics to impose their perverted interpretations of the Constitution on the nation ..
If you try to deplatform Neo-Nazis that call for killing Jews .. they'll tell you that you're trying to censor them and ANY censorship is bad .. you know.. because someday THEY might want to call for the killing of Blacks ..
If you try to limit access to military weapons of war.. they'll tell you that any gun law is bad and that you're trying to take their long range shotguns and .22 rifles .. and without their Tot Slaughterer 3000 assault rifle.. how will they ever be able to take down a herd of deer ..
There can't be an honest discussion with them about either.. their fetish won't allow it..
If the Gunfuckers and First Amendment absolutists don't act to change things .. eventually the rest of America will do so without them.
The gun that blown Kennedys head apart was long range. That's an old gun. America is changing. Though I have my own criticism of some of the actions and changes, it is going to happen. We need to accept change. Its happened the entire life of this country. Conservatism has no chance in todays world. Unless you're in a dictatorship. Even communist countries change. The WWI bolt-action Carcano M91 rifle holds a 6 round clip and an experienced user can empty it in about 15 seconds.. longer when considering the time it takes to reacquire the target after cycling the bolt.
An AR-15 can easily fire 30 rounds in less than 30 seconds without ever going off target..
Don't fall for the "they're the same" bullshit ..
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Post by johnnybgood on Sept 9, 2024 22:50:03 GMT
"Rather" Yes. Rather doesn't mean "want". I'd Rather have the Raiders win the SB then KC. Doesn't mean I want the Raiders to win. Talked about. Ok I'll go with that part. That's a fact. Most used is not, I guess. Sure dude. Rather is just a measure of degree of certainty... so you have some desire to ban "certain guns" except I have no idea how much desire or under what circumstances. So... it would be great if you did have a POV on this if you clarified. Its not "desire". Its "Don't care if they are". |
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Post by johnnybgood on Sept 9, 2024 22:54:25 GMT
The gun that blown Kennedys head apart was long range. That's an old gun. America is changing. Though I have my own criticism of some of the actions and changes, it is going to happen. We need to accept change. Its happened the entire life of this country. Conservatism has no chance in todays world. Unless you're in a dictatorship. Even communist countries change. The WWI bolt-action Carcano M91 rifle holds a 6 round clip and an experienced user can empty it in about 15 seconds.. longer when considering the time it takes to reacquire the target after cycling the bolt.
An AR-15 can easily fire 30 rounds in less than 30 seconds without ever going off target..
Don't fall for the "they're the same" bullshit ..
Point was that the WW1 rifle can protect your family. You don't need 30 bullets to fly out in 30 seconds. The one that shot Kennedy was not the same. Thats why I don't mind if they're banned. They're not the same. |
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Post by Paleocon on Sept 10, 2024 1:38:02 GMT
That shouldn't be needed. That's not what this country is about. Making certain guns illegal vs having armed guards walking around schools? I'd rather have a ban on "certain guns". No violation of our rights is committed. We still have the right to bear arms. The selection is just a bit thinner. Gunfuckers and First Amendment absolutists .. very often one and the same .. use the same tactics to impose their perverted interpretations of the Constitution on the nation ..
If you try to deplatform Neo-Nazis that call for killing Jews .. they'll tell you that you're trying to censor them and ANY censorship is bad .. you know.. because someday THEY might want to call for the killing of Blacks ..
If you try to limit access to military weapons of war.. they'll tell you that any gun law is bad and that you're trying to take their long range shotguns and .22 rifles .. and without their Tot Slaughterer 3000 assault rifle.. how will they ever be able to take down a herd of deer ..
There can't be an honest discussion with them about either.. their fetish won't allow it..
If the Gunfuckers and First Amendment absolutists don't act to change things .. eventually the rest of America will do so without them.
If those of us who support gun ownership are "gunfuckers", doesn't that make abortion supporters "deadbabyfuckers"?
Once an idiot like this leftist filth gets exceptions to our rights, the restrictions will never end. They get to arbitrarily pick the restrictions, remember?
We were told the same kind of lies about homosexuality...."surrender on normalization of sexual perversion and we liberals will shut up and not ask for another thing. just give us this concession" So we stupidly gave in. unsurprisingly, they had lied to us....
Pervert marriage came next and once again, they assured us that wedlock for deviants was the limit and then they were done. Once again, they lied. Like fools we had swallowed their vile filth to keep the peace.
Did they stop? Nope, it was normalization of the mental illness of transgenderism that crawled out of the sewer next. They lied, we caved.
Then, it was the drugging and mutilation of children on the altar of that perverted mental illness.
And now they are drifting toward the mainstreaming of pedophilia.
That's the kind of change that Fiddler is talking about, not change for the better.
One can't have an honest discussion with liberals because they will lie to us to gain power every single time and then call us names for not joining them in being sick perverts, nutjobs and liars.
Never, ever trust a liberal with your rights. Never, ever compromise with these people; they will get their pound of flesh and then demand another pound.
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Post by Paleocon on Sept 10, 2024 1:45:25 GMT
Gunfuckers and First Amendment absolutists .. very often one and the same .. use the same tactics to impose their perverted interpretations of the Constitution on the nation ..
If you try to deplatform Neo-Nazis that call for killing Jews .. they'll tell you that you're trying to censor them and ANY censorship is bad .. you know.. because someday THEY might want to call for the killing of Blacks ..
If you try to limit access to military weapons of war.. they'll tell you that any gun law is bad and that you're trying to take their long range shotguns and .22 rifles .. and without their Tot Slaughterer 3000 assault rifle.. how will they ever be able to take down a herd of deer ..
There can't be an honest discussion with them about either.. their fetish won't allow it..
If the Gunfuckers and First Amendment absolutists don't act to change things .. eventually the rest of America will do so without them.
The gun that blown Kennedys head apart was long range. That's an old gun. America is changing. Though I have my own criticism of some of the actions and changes, it is going to happen. We need to accept change. Its happened the entire life of this country. Conservatism has no chance in todays world. Unless you're in a dictatorship. Even communist countries change. You'd be one of those guys 250 years ago that would say "The King just wants a few cents extra for a stamp, what's the big deal? After all, things change. These revolutionaries have no chance in today's British Empire".
Thanks for your softness on our rights, Tory. So very courageous.
You do realize that the Second Amendment was not about hunting or running off burglars, don't you? Do you also realize that rifles of all types are used less often during homicides than knives, clubs and bare hands?
You've been played by the media, Tory.....how's it feel to be so easily manipulated?
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Post by thor on Sept 10, 2024 1:54:09 GMT
The gun that blown Kennedys head apart was long range. That's an old gun. America is changing. Though I have my own criticism of some of the actions and changes, it is going to happen. We need to accept change. Its happened the entire life of this country. Conservatism has no chance in todays world. Unless you're in a dictatorship. Even communist countries change. You'd be one of those guys 250 years ago that would say "The King just wants a few cents extra for a stamp, what's the big deal? After all, things change. These revolutionaries have no chance in today's British Empire".
Thanks for your softness on our rights, Tory. So very courageous.
You do realize that the Second Amendment was not about hunting or running off burglars, don't you? Do you also realize that rifles of all types are used less often during homicides than knives, clubs and bare hands?
You've been played by the media, Tory.....how's it feel to be so easily manipulated?
Bitch, please. Your ass would have been in the Tory ranks, and we both know it. |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 10, 2024 2:15:22 GMT
You'd be one of those guys 250 years ago that would say "The King just wants a few cents extra for a stamp, what's the big deal? After all, things change. These revolutionaries have no chance in today's British Empire".
Thanks for your softness on our rights, Tory. So very courageous.
You do realize that the Second Amendment was not about hunting or running off burglars, don't you? Do you also realize that rifles of all types are used less often during homicides than knives, clubs and bare hands?
You've been played by the media, Tory.....how's it feel to be so easily manipulated?
Bitch, please. Your ass would have been in the Tory ranks, and we both know it. OK coward. |
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 10, 2024 2:23:57 GMT
Oh, the pooch ran away...
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Post by johnnybgood on Sept 10, 2024 20:49:50 GMT
The gun that blown Kennedys head apart was long range. That's an old gun. America is changing. Though I have my own criticism of some of the actions and changes, it is going to happen. We need to accept change. Its happened the entire life of this country. Conservatism has no chance in todays world. Unless you're in a dictatorship. Even communist countries change. You'd be one of those guys 250 years ago that would say "The King just wants a few cents extra for a stamp, what's the big deal? After all, things change. These revolutionaries have no chance in today's British Empire".
Thanks for your softness on our rights, Tory. So very courageous.
You do realize that the Second Amendment was not about hunting or running off burglars, don't you? Do you also realize that rifles of all types are used less often during homicides than knives, clubs and bare hands?
You've been played by the media, Tory.....how's it feel to be so easily manipulated?
How does banning a certain model violate your rights? Change is getting out of a King/dictatorship country. The price of stamps does go up. Liberals and conservative stand together against dictatorship. I actually agree with the right on a lot of topics. I just don't see banning a model violates my rights. Your statement about weapons used is irrelevant. Again, Im saying I don't see banning a model is a violation. You guys are not understanding that. Lastly, I don't watch 24hr news that are the one's who play the game. Opinionated media doesn't effect my feeling. |
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