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Post by Odysseus on Jun 18, 2020 5:58:53 GMT
And yes I'm suggesting the difference might have less to do with "3 years of training" to become a police officer, and more what *should be* the natural human instinct to just offer a drunk person a ride home instead of hassling them, arresting them and inevitably shooting them when they wonder (legitimately) what the fuck they're being hassled about and protest. Queshank
Yup to the human course of action.
Nope to what causes that humanity to be lost.
Perhaps the three years of college education doesn't drum the humanity out of police officers in Finland the way less than half a year of paramilitary indoctrination does in America?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 14:53:18 GMT
And yes I'm suggesting the difference might have less to do with "3 years of training" to become a police officer, and more what *should be* the natural human instinct to just offer a drunk person a ride home instead of hassling them, arresting them and inevitably shooting them when they wonder (legitimately) what the fuck they're being hassled about and protest. Queshank
Yup to the human course of action.
Nope to what causes that humanity to be lost.
Perhaps the three years of college education doesn't drum the humanity out of police officers in Finland the way less than half a year of paramilitary indoctrination does in America?
So you think a college education is an integral component of "humanity?" Queshank |
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 18, 2020 15:41:57 GMT
Yup to the human course of action.
Nope to what causes that humanity to be lost.
Perhaps the three years of college education doesn't drum the humanity out of police officers in Finland the way less than half a year of paramilitary indoctrination does in America?
So you think a college education is an integral component of "humanity?" Queshank As opposed to five months of paramilitary indoctrination, yes.
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Post by MojoJojo on Jun 18, 2020 15:47:46 GMT
And yes I'm suggesting the difference might have less to do with "3 years of training" to become a police officer, and more what *should be* the natural human instinct to just offer a drunk person a ride home instead of hassling them, arresting them and inevitably shooting them when they wonder (legitimately) what the fuck they're being hassled about and protest. Queshank
Maybe it takes three years to teach potential officers natural human instinct?
LOL
If I'm being honest, and very simple, it boils down to cops need to act as peace officers and not paramilitary gangs. But then we're right back where we started, how do we bridge that divide? Intuitively, the amount and quality of training SHOULD be a big factor in crossing it, but I'm all ears for additional/alternative incentives.
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Post by william on Jun 18, 2020 16:19:44 GMT
I'm somewhat mystified as to what this actually DOES. Greg Raises for cops, more deadly military equipment for cops, less accountability for cops |
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 18, 2020 19:25:07 GMT
I'm somewhat mystified as to what this actually DOES. Greg Raises for cops, more deadly military equipment for cops, less accountability for cops Sadly, you may be right.
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Post by william on Jun 18, 2020 19:31:42 GMT
Raises for cops, more deadly military equipment for cops, less accountability for cops Sadly, you may be right.
oops, left out this one trump spoke about, choke hold should not be uses unless the cops feels it to be necessary Strange that there's no mention of cops being required to keep their cameras on. So often, they are turned off just before the beatings and shootings. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 19:32:10 GMT
I'm somewhat mystified as to what this actually DOES. Greg I'm somewhat mystified as to why people think the federal government can fix the law enforcement problems of city governments with a pen.
Queshank
It creates a photo OP to attempt look like something. It does nothing, it has no force of law. It's an empty suit. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 18, 2020 19:40:13 GMT
I'm somewhat mystified as to why people think the federal government can fix the law enforcement problems of city governments with a pen.
Queshank
It creates a photo OP to attempt look like something. It does nothing, it has no force of law. It's an empty suit. And before too long, we'll be hearing Mr. Trump boasting about how he has done more for the rights of those in police custody than anyone else, ever.
This is guaranteed.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jun 18, 2020 19:43:04 GMT
I'm somewhat mystified as to why people think the federal government can fix the law enforcement problems of city governments with a pen.
Queshank
It creates a photo OP to attempt look like something. It does nothing, it has no force of law. It's an empty suit.
From what I'm hearing now, that's about the jist of it.
Greg
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 0:10:11 GMT
I'm somewhat mystified as to why people think the federal government can fix the law enforcement problems of city governments with a pen.
Queshank
It creates a photo OP to attempt look like something. It does nothing, it has no force of law. It's an empty suit. Exactly.
But some people have some kind of deluded expectation that the federal government can somehow fix the city of Minneapolis.
Queshank
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 19, 2020 0:49:38 GMT
It creates a photo OP to attempt look like something. It does nothing, it has no force of law. It's an empty suit. Exactly.
But some people have some kind of deluded expectation that the federal government can somehow fix the city of Minneapolis.
Queshank
Well, what would it take to fix Minneapolis?
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