Post by Mercy for All on May 8, 2024 15:45:23 GMT
Wait, what? You are told what to believe based on some external authority!?
Is that your conclusion? As I've said many times, that's odd. Could you connect the dots as to how you came to that conclusion based on anything at all that I've said?
What knowledge isn't "personal"? Of course, my knowledge is "personal." It seems you may be implying that it is "unique to me," and at a very high resolution, that is inevitably true. As it would be for anyone. But, generally speaking, I wouldn't say that my knowledge is idiosyncratic or unique.
I like that a lot. It's one of the appeals of being Jewish. Now, you used the term 'believe', and that is not what I'm talking about. As I said, belief is NEVER brought up in Judaism. Very rude to do so. Very personal and private.
And yet you said earlier: "That's an odd way of putting it, imo. I'm not 'loyal' to G-d. I believe in G-d. Those do not seem the same to me."
What does that mean? To "believe in G-d"?
Connect the dots? Sure. I thought we were discussing Christianity's relationship with G-d, and you said G-d is your master, to which I brought up the master/slave relationship, and you then said, 'Is that what I think? Hmmm...not really At all.', to which I said, I thought we were talking about Christians in general, but apparently, you thought I was only asking your view.
I think the problem is your automatic association of "master" with "slave." As I already pointed out, that's not a given.
I guess maybe you are the wrong person to discuss this with. I assumed that because you have much training in religion, that you could explain basic Christianity to me, but all that has happened is my getting confused. Words that mean one thing when spelled one way, but another when spelled differently, things AS other things, instead of just basic IS, masters and servants. I'm used to a MUCH simpler view of G-d, and was wondering the appeal of Jesus, but if anything, it seems LESS appealing now that I know more.
Thanks for the convo, I'll definitely ask these same questions to those who might have a broader view than yours.
Freon
Thanks for the convo, I'll definitely ask these same questions to those who might have a broader view than yours.
Freon
Is that what you wanted? An explanation? It seemed that you were more interested in poking holes. Because I've already clarified the connection between "recognizing Jesus as Lord" and "acknowledging that Jesus is Lord." It's not that complicated.
I've already explained the capital letters used as a place holder for the tetragrammaton (in exactly the same way that Jews use "Adonai" or hashem as a placeholder for the tetragrammaton). It's not really that complicated.
The latter, as a conversation point, is really incidental to "what Christianity is about." That has less to do with an "explanation about Christianity" than it is a clarification of translations. And, again, it's exactly what happens in Judaism...it's just a different (kind of) placeholder.