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Post by archie on Apr 23, 2024 1:34:02 GMT
• Posted by Steven Newman
• View Steven Newman’s blog
by Kirk Elliott
July 06, 2011
The Communist Manifesto
I recently re-read “The Communist Manifesto” written by Karl Marx in 1848.
What I read was a bit shocking. Marx had “10 planks” that this evil manifesto was based upon and he advocated the use of any means to accomplish these socialist goals including violent revolutions. The planks are listed bellow, followed by my comment on how it applies to America today
Joe Biden coming.
1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.
Dr. Elliott’s Comment: This is where eminent domain comes into the picture, and even property taxes. Once you own your property outright by paying off your mortgage, you still don’t technically own it because the government could jack up property taxes so high that it makes it unaffordable to remain.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Dr. Elliott’s Comment: Marginal tax rates increasing as income goes up IS a graduated income tax. This is in opposition to a more fair tax like a national sales tax or flat tax where a person is not taxed at a higher rate the more income they earn.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Dr. Elliott’s Comment: In the U.S. these can be seen as estate taxes (i.e. the death tax).
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Dr. Elliott’s Comment: This is nothing more than government seizures, IRS property confiscation and the 1997 Crime/Terrorist bill which calls for the imprisonment of terrorists (not such a bad thing), but also for those who speak out against the government. Your LIFE is the most valuable property you have, but the government has the right to take it away because of things that you may say. Consider Senate Bill 3081, the “Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010,” co-sponsored by Sens. John McCain and Joe Lieberman. The following is actual text from the bill that explains what a belligerent may be and the reasons they can be detained without due process: “(A) The potential threat the individual poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the United States or upon United States citizens or United States civilian facilities abroad at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States… (B) The potential threat the individual poses to United States military personnel or United States military facilities at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States…. (C) The potential intelligence value of the individual… (D) Membership in al-Qaida or in a terrorist group affiliated with al-Qaida… (E) Such other matters as the president considers appropriate. . .” [THIS IS WHERE THERE IS A MAJOR, MAJOR PROBLEM] This is very subjective and could include a multitude of things – even just disagreements on policy!
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Dr. Elliott’s Comment: This is an easy one. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 created the Federal Reserve, and now the government owns many of the country’s largest banks via bailout money. Government control of private industry is just a polite way of saying FASCISM!!!!
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.
Dr. Elliott’s Comment: The FAA, FCC, and the ICC (Interstate Commerce Commission) are all government entities that propose to regulate how we travel and what is said. There is nothing particularly disturbing about this now, but what about in the future? Could the government shut down communication or transportation for various people groups? Yes, they could pretty much do whatever they want. There is no competition here. There is no free market private entity as a choice. I thought the government made monopolies illegal? Oh, that’s right they did, except for where they have a monopoly.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Dr. Elliott’s Comment: Recent events have made this one very disturbing. On June 9, 2011 President Obama signed into law Executive Order 13575 in which the intent is to seize greater power over “food, fiber, and energy.” A great article explaining this was written by Raven Clabough and posted on the New American website.
8. Equal obligation of all to work and the establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Dr. Elliott’s Comment: Because of high inflation and higher taxes our society has been thrust into a dual income family at the minimum. In many instances both husband and wife have multiple jobs.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
Dr. Elliott’s Comment: I am not qualified to answer this question, as I don’t really know of any combination of the two industries. In fact it seems what we have in this country is opposite as there seems to be a corralling of people into the urban areas. However, Executive Order 13575 mentioned in Plank 7 may be related to this.
10. Free education for all children in government schools and abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form – combination of education with industrial production, etc.
Dr. Elliott’s Comment: The public school system and the department of education indoctrinate our kids into the agenda that the federal government wants for our children. Both the national department of education and the state level departments of education adhere to an outcome based education model where excellence in not rewarded and lackluster performance is not dealt with in the proper manner so kids don’t get their feelings hurt. The whole standard of “equalization” is drilled into our kids’ heads through the public school system so by the time they graduate they are “socialized.”
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Post by greebnurt on Apr 23, 2024 2:03:57 GMT
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Post by bama beau on Apr 23, 2024 2:17:30 GMT
• Posted by Steven Newman • View Steven Newman’s blog by Kirk Elliott July 06, 2011 The Communist Manifesto I recently re-read “The Communist Manifesto” written by Karl Marx in 1848. What I read was a bit shocking. Marx had “10 planks” that this evil manifesto was based upon and he advocated the use of any means to accomplish these socialist goals including violent revolutions. The planks are listed bellow, followed by my comment on how it applies to America today Joe Biden coming.  FIFY. |
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Post by HolyMoly on Apr 23, 2024 3:49:01 GMT
Sad/comical when a Dr. can't even understand basic English. 2 & 10 I can see,
but the rest aren't even close except in wingnutland. This is the kind of clueless
crap that gives right wingers a bad name.
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Post by archie on Apr 23, 2024 21:34:47 GMT
Sad/comical when a Dr. can't even understand basic English. 2 & 10 I can see, but the rest aren't even close except in wingnutland. This is the kind of clueless crap that gives right wingers a bad name. Clueless? |
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Post by HolyMoly on Apr 23, 2024 22:03:46 GMT
Sad/comical when a Dr. can't even understand basic English. 2 & 10 I can see, but the rest aren't even close except in wingnutland. This is the kind of clueless crap that gives right wingers a bad name. Clueless? Yeah, I think a person who doesn't understand basic English could be called clueless. |
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Post by runswithscissors on Apr 24, 2024 2:13:28 GMT
Yeah, I think a person who doesn't understand basic English could be called clueless. archie is about as clueless as some sailor who washed up on the beach yesterday and can't speak the language. Except archie can speak the language, which makes him at least one order of magnitude dumber than the guy who washed up on the beach. Being dangerously gullible is worse than not being able to speak the language. |
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Post by HolyMoly on Apr 24, 2024 4:23:53 GMT
Yeah, I think a person who doesn't understand basic English could be called clueless. archie is about as clueless as some sailor who washed up on the beach yesterday and can't speak the language. Except archie can speak the language, which makes him at least one order of magnitude dumber than the guy who washed up on the beach. Being dangerously gullible is worse than not being able to speak the language. You have to be gullible to take this kind of stuff at face value. But Dr. Elliott also has a problem. He basically doesn't know what he's talking about. Another loony toon at large. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 24, 2024 9:37:38 GMT
Sad/comical when a Dr. can't even understand basic English. 2 & 10 I can see, but the rest aren't even close except in wingnutland. This is the kind of clueless crap that gives right wingers a bad name. Assuming their name could be worse than it already is. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 24, 2024 9:40:28 GMT
Yeah, I think a person who doesn't understand basic English could be called clueless. archie is about as clueless as some sailor who washed up on the beach yesterday and can't speak the language. Except archie can speak the language, which makes him at least one order of magnitude dumber than the guy who washed up on the beach. Being dangerously gullible is worse than not being able to speak the language. Arch can barely speak it himself. He uses google translate in sicilian to help him understand the most complicated passages, IE the ones with complete sentences. |
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Post by archie on Apr 24, 2024 13:15:41 GMT
archie is about as clueless as some sailor who washed up on the beach yesterday and can't speak the language. Except archie can speak the language, which makes him at least one order of magnitude dumber than the guy who washed up on the beach. Being dangerously gullible is worse than not being able to speak the language. Arch can barely speak it himself. He uses google translate in sicilian to help him understand the most complicated passages, IE the ones with complete sentences. My mom and dad were born here. They seldom spoke to me in the Italian language. My grandmother came to this country when she was a child. She spoke perfect English and Italian. Both grandpas spoke Italian, and English with quite an accent. The problem I have is mostly spelling the other language. I could call you a few names that are not nice in English. But I don’t know exactly how to spell them in Italian. Ge it sfacheem? |
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Post by HolyMoly on Apr 24, 2024 20:57:41 GMT
Sad/comical when a Dr. can't even understand basic English. 2 & 10 I can see, but the rest aren't even close except in wingnutland. This is the kind of clueless crap that gives right wingers a bad name. Assuming their name could be worse than it already is. Yeah, it's pretty bad now, so there's not far to go. And parsing the small degrees of looneytooness is a waste of time. |
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Post by limey² on Apr 24, 2024 21:39:11 GMT
• Posted by Steven Newman • View Steven Newman’s blog by Kirk Elliott July 06, 2011 The Communist Manifesto I recently re-read “The Communist Manifesto” written by Karl Marx in 1848. What I read was a bit shocking. Marx had “10 planks” that this evil manifesto was based upon and he advocated the use of any means to accomplish these socialist goals including violent revolutions. The planks are listed bellow, followed by my comment on how it applies to America today Joe Biden coming. 1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: This is where eminent domain comes into the picture, and even property taxes. Once you own your property outright by paying off your mortgage, you still don’t technically own it because the government could jack up property taxes so high that it makes it unaffordable to remain. 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: Marginal tax rates increasing as income goes up IS a graduated income tax. This is in opposition to a more fair tax like a national sales tax or flat tax where a person is not taxed at a higher rate the more income they earn. 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: In the U.S. these can be seen as estate taxes (i.e. the death tax). 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: This is nothing more than government seizures, IRS property confiscation and the 1997 Crime/Terrorist bill which calls for the imprisonment of terrorists (not such a bad thing), but also for those who speak out against the government. Your LIFE is the most valuable property you have, but the government has the right to take it away because of things that you may say. Consider Senate Bill 3081, the “Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010,” co-sponsored by Sens. John McCain and Joe Lieberman. The following is actual text from the bill that explains what a belligerent may be and the reasons they can be detained without due process: “(A) The potential threat the individual poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the United States or upon United States citizens or United States civilian facilities abroad at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States… (B) The potential threat the individual poses to United States military personnel or United States military facilities at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States…. (C) The potential intelligence value of the individual… (D) Membership in al-Qaida or in a terrorist group affiliated with al-Qaida… (E) Such other matters as the president considers appropriate. . .” [THIS IS WHERE THERE IS A MAJOR, MAJOR PROBLEM] This is very subjective and could include a multitude of things – even just disagreements on policy! 5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: This is an easy one. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 created the Federal Reserve, and now the government owns many of the country’s largest banks via bailout money. Government control of private industry is just a polite way of saying FASCISM!!!! 6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: The FAA, FCC, and the ICC (Interstate Commerce Commission) are all government entities that propose to regulate how we travel and what is said. There is nothing particularly disturbing about this now, but what about in the future? Could the government shut down communication or transportation for various people groups? Yes, they could pretty much do whatever they want. There is no competition here. There is no free market private entity as a choice. I thought the government made monopolies illegal? Oh, that’s right they did, except for where they have a monopoly. 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: Recent events have made this one very disturbing. On June 9, 2011 President Obama signed into law Executive Order 13575 in which the intent is to seize greater power over “food, fiber, and energy.” A great article explaining this was written by Raven Clabough and posted on the New American website. 8. Equal obligation of all to work and the establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: Because of high inflation and higher taxes our society has been thrust into a dual income family at the minimum. In many instances both husband and wife have multiple jobs. 9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: I am not qualified to answer this question, as I don’t really know of any combination of the two industries. In fact it seems what we have in this country is opposite as there seems to be a corralling of people into the urban areas. However, Executive Order 13575 mentioned in Plank 7 may be related to this. 10. Free education for all children in government schools and abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form – combination of education with industrial production, etc. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: The public school system and the department of education indoctrinate our kids into the agenda that the federal government wants for our children. Both the national department of education and the state level departments of education adhere to an outcome based education model where excellence in not rewarded and lackluster performance is not dealt with in the proper manner so kids don’t get their feelings hurt. The whole standard of “equalization” is drilled into our kids’ heads through the public school system so by the time they graduate they are “socialized.” If you read it yourself, and it is a tiny volume, you'd stop being spoonfed bullshit like this. The Manifesto is at the link. Don't try Das Kapital, I struggled through the whole text. The old boy got Engels to write it.... he was not one for brevity. www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/61 |
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 24, 2024 22:05:26 GMT
• Posted by Steven Newman • View Steven Newman’s blog by Kirk Elliott July 06, 2011 The Communist Manifesto I recently re-read “The Communist Manifesto” written by Karl Marx in 1848. What I read was a bit shocking. Marx had “10 planks” that this evil manifesto was based upon and he advocated the use of any means to accomplish these socialist goals including violent revolutions. The planks are listed bellow, followed by my comment on how it applies to America today Joe Biden coming. 1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: This is where eminent domain comes into the picture, and even property taxes. Once you own your property outright by paying off your mortgage, you still don’t technically own it because the government could jack up property taxes so high that it makes it unaffordable to remain. 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: Marginal tax rates increasing as income goes up IS a graduated income tax. This is in opposition to a more fair tax like a national sales tax or flat tax where a person is not taxed at a higher rate the more income they earn. 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: In the U.S. these can be seen as estate taxes (i.e. the death tax). 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: This is nothing more than government seizures, IRS property confiscation and the 1997 Crime/Terrorist bill which calls for the imprisonment of terrorists (not such a bad thing), but also for those who speak out against the government. Your LIFE is the most valuable property you have, but the government has the right to take it away because of things that you may say. Consider Senate Bill 3081, the “Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010,” co-sponsored by Sens. John McCain and Joe Lieberman. The following is actual text from the bill that explains what a belligerent may be and the reasons they can be detained without due process: “(A) The potential threat the individual poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the United States or upon United States citizens or United States civilian facilities abroad at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States… (B) The potential threat the individual poses to United States military personnel or United States military facilities at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States…. (C) The potential intelligence value of the individual… (D) Membership in al-Qaida or in a terrorist group affiliated with al-Qaida… (E) Such other matters as the president considers appropriate. . .” [THIS IS WHERE THERE IS A MAJOR, MAJOR PROBLEM] This is very subjective and could include a multitude of things – even just disagreements on policy! 5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: This is an easy one. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 created the Federal Reserve, and now the government owns many of the country’s largest banks via bailout money. Government control of private industry is just a polite way of saying FASCISM!!!! 6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: The FAA, FCC, and the ICC (Interstate Commerce Commission) are all government entities that propose to regulate how we travel and what is said. There is nothing particularly disturbing about this now, but what about in the future? Could the government shut down communication or transportation for various people groups? Yes, they could pretty much do whatever they want. There is no competition here. There is no free market private entity as a choice. I thought the government made monopolies illegal? Oh, that’s right they did, except for where they have a monopoly. 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: Recent events have made this one very disturbing. On June 9, 2011 President Obama signed into law Executive Order 13575 in which the intent is to seize greater power over “food, fiber, and energy.” A great article explaining this was written by Raven Clabough and posted on the New American website. 8. Equal obligation of all to work and the establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: Because of high inflation and higher taxes our society has been thrust into a dual income family at the minimum. In many instances both husband and wife have multiple jobs. 9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: I am not qualified to answer this question, as I don’t really know of any combination of the two industries. In fact it seems what we have in this country is opposite as there seems to be a corralling of people into the urban areas. However, Executive Order 13575 mentioned in Plank 7 may be related to this. 10. Free education for all children in government schools and abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form – combination of education with industrial production, etc. Dr. Elliott’s Comment: The public school system and the department of education indoctrinate our kids into the agenda that the federal government wants for our children. Both the national department of education and the state level departments of education adhere to an outcome based education model where excellence in not rewarded and lackluster performance is not dealt with in the proper manner so kids don’t get their feelings hurt. The whole standard of “equalization” is drilled into our kids’ heads through the public school system so by the time they graduate they are “socialized.” If you read it yourself, and it is a tiny volume, you'd stop being spoonfed bullshit like this. The Manifesto is at the link. Don't try Das Kapital, I struggled through the whole text. The old boy got Engels to write it.... he was not one for brevity. www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/61The only Marx arch ever understood is Groucho, and then only the crudest jokes. |
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Post by HolyMoly on Apr 24, 2024 23:16:43 GMT
Viabourgeoise?
Marx wrote the first volume of Das Kapital and Engels put together the second
and third volumes using Marx's notes and published them after Marx's death.
So it's mostly a Karl Marx joint.
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Post by limey² on Apr 25, 2024 7:03:39 GMT
Viabourgeoise? Marx wrote the first volume of Das Kapital and Engels put together the second and third volumes using Marx's notes and published them after Marx's death. So it's mostly a Karl Marx joint. Those chaps needed an editor like Alec Baldwin needed weapon training. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 25, 2024 9:46:10 GMT
Viabourgeoise? Marx wrote the first volume of Das Kapital and Engels put together the second and third volumes using Marx's notes and published them after Marx's death. So it's mostly a Karl Marx joint. Those chaps needed an editor like Alec Baldwin needed weapon training. Alec Baldwin is a weapon nut? |
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Post by limey² on Apr 25, 2024 13:37:22 GMT
Those chaps needed an editor like Alec Baldwin needed weapon training. Alec Baldwin is a weapon nut? Clearly not! |
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 25, 2024 15:27:02 GMT
Alec Baldwin is a weapon nut? Clearly not! I am a little confused here. You mean Marx and Engels needed an editor? |
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Post by archie on Apr 25, 2024 17:13:33 GMT
Close description of your democrat party looks like it makes some of you mad.
Your (D) party is not for you anymore boys, they are for themselves. $$$$$$ in their pockets. Not yours or for the country to run the way it was meant to be. The greatest in the world. Not a division of socialism. Get yet comrades?
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