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Post by thecitizen on Apr 22, 2024 9:15:33 GMT
#1 the protest March was not violent #2 they were trying to be heroes by taking down a thug with an AR15 yes, they did a stupid thing, but they were still victims of a middle school drop out thug that is your hero 1. What was happening in Kenosha on the night of Aug 25 was a riot. It was violent. Buildings were burning, again. Why do you comment on things that you know nothing about? 2. Heroes aren't threatening to kill people and then chase them down and attack them as they are attempting to run for their lives. 3. These "victims" were participating in a riot, they were burning buildings, looting, pillaging and being shitheads. Then they attack someone who clearly and obviously was attempting to run away. They were cowards Wads. They are your people, fucking dumb, and they got what they deserved. You need to pick better heroes than arsonists, rapists, and pedophiles. No, the victims were protesting, not rioting. Heroes don’t kill unarmed people, thugs do. There was no foot that night
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 12:34:43 GMT
In the end, this is how it almost always ends with you. You are such a pathetic lying clown. All you can do is run and hide behind "sure" instead of admitting you are what you are. Because there is no need to continue a conversation with a person that believes the shit that you do You are a sad pathetic lying coward.
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 13:18:33 GMT
1. What was happening in Kenosha on the night of Aug 25 was a riot. It was violent. Buildings were burning, again. Why do you comment on things that you know nothing about? 2. Heroes aren't threatening to kill people and then chase them down and attack them as they are attempting to run for their lives. 3. These "victims" were participating in a riot, they were burning buildings, looting, pillaging and being shitheads. Then they attack someone who clearly and obviously was attempting to run away. They were cowards Wads. They are your people, fucking dumb, and they got what they deserved. You need to pick better heroes than arsonists, rapists, and pedophiles. No, the victims were protesting, not rioting. Heroes don’t kill unarmed people, thugs do. There was no foot that night You are a sad pathetic lying coward. Rosenbaum was the one out there trying to set fires and throwing rocks. He was upset with Rittenhouse because Rittenhouse was putting out fires. Why is it you think your innocent unarmed "victim" Rosenbaum was chasing Rittenhouse? Why did Rosenbaum lunge for Rittenhouse trying to grab his gun once he had him pinned enough to do so? Why was he making threats to Rittenhouse? Most importantly, why are you lying to protect the thug Rosenbaum?
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Post by freonbale on Apr 22, 2024 13:32:08 GMT
I see you need to twist the truth, to make your point. But before I address that, let me be clear that I do not support riots, period. But I do support the BLM movement. It's not just one, or the other, in your simplistic world. You CAN support a cause, but not condone some of its activities. If we take your rape analogy, it would be like Rittenhouse knowing a rape was going to take place, and then instead of informing the police, showing up himself to stop it. You twist the truth, because your analogy implies not knowing a crime is going to be committed, and just happening to be there, with the means to stop it. That's not what happened. Rittenhouse KNEW violence was likely if he went to that business. Knew it so well, he came prepared with more than adequate lethal force. He's not a hero. He's a violence junky, and you supporting him is disgusting. Freon Oh wow, what an admission on your part. Not only would you stand there and do nothing to help a woman getting raped... if you knew she was going to get raped, you still wouldn't do anything to help her. If I knew the time and place someone was going to be raped, I'd call the police and let them know. And you are saying that is NOT the appropriate response? You're nuts. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 14:05:23 GMT
Oh wow, what an admission on your part. Not only would you stand there and do nothing to help a woman getting raped... if you knew she was going to get raped, you still wouldn't do anything to help her. If I knew the time and place someone was going to be raped, I'd call the police and let them know. And you are saying that is NOT the appropriate response? You're nuts. Freon Ah... what a cowardly response. When you know the police won't be there... Like I said, you are the kind of guy that will just watch evil happen in this world, and then when better men show up to stop it, you condemn them.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 22, 2024 15:12:40 GMT
I see you need to twist the truth, to make your point. But before I address that, let me be clear that I do not support riots, period. But I do support the BLM movement. It's not just one, or the other, in your simplistic world. You CAN support a cause, but not condone some of its activities. If we take your rape analogy, it would be like Rittenhouse knowing a rape was going to take place, and then instead of informing the police, showing up himself to stop it. You twist the truth, because your analogy implies not knowing a crime is going to be committed, and just happening to be there, with the means to stop it. That's not what happened. Rittenhouse KNEW violence was likely if he went to that business. Knew it so well, he came prepared with more than adequate lethal force. He's not a hero. He's a violence junky, and you supporting him is disgusting. Freon Except the police were there you dumb fucking moron and are on video thanking Kyle and other armed civilians for their support and assistance. They had to call in the national guard and militarized police units to quell the violence that had overtaken the city because of -your- people. There was literally no law and order as your heroes (pedophiles, rapists, and arsonists) roamed the streets attacking innocent people and burning down buildings of people that had absolutely nothing to do with whatever started the riots. I'm going to let you in on a little secret that really isn't a secret, nobody wants to be around your kind. Nobody wants people rioting and burning their property. Nobody wants frenchies shitting on their door steps. That's why people are fleeing leftist enclaves right now. -You- are the problem. I don't believe the police thanked Rittenhouse, or people like him. Freon
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Post by freonbale on Apr 22, 2024 15:17:05 GMT
If I knew the time and place someone was going to be raped, I'd call the police and let them know. And you are saying that is NOT the appropriate response? You're nuts. Freon Ah... what a cowardly response. When you know the police won't be there... Like I said, you are the kind of guy that will just watch evil happen in this world, and then when better men show up to stop it, you condemn them. I can, and have, spoken up when I saw an issue occur right in front of me. Even when everyone else chose to look the other way. You really don't understand me at all. But when I DID speak up, it was not to resolve the crime myself. I stabilized the situation, then called the police, and they came and dealt with it. That is the social contract we have with them. And what was the result? In my case, it was to shame all those other people for NOT doing what I did. What's funny to me in your response, is that you would have me believe that YOU would resolve the situation yourself, and I think that's bullshit. YOU, are a coward. All of you who hide behind your guns, are. What I did, I did WITHOUT a gun. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 15:29:18 GMT
Ah... what a cowardly response. When you know the police won't be there... Like I said, you are the kind of guy that will just watch evil happen in this world, and then when better men show up to stop it, you condemn them. I can, and have, spoken up when I saw an issue occur right in front of me. Even when everyone else chose to look the other way. You really don't understand me at all. But when I DID speak up, it was not to resolve the crime myself. I stabilized the situation, then called the police, and they came and dealt with it. That is the social contract we have with them. And what was the result? In my case, it was to shame all those other people for NOT doing what I did. What's funny to me in your response, is that you would have me believe that YOU would resolve the situation yourself, and I think that's bullshit. YOU, are a coward. All of you who hide behind your guns, are. What I did, I did WITHOUT a gun. Freon LOL, you shamed someone?! Oh yeah, you are a serious person all right. I can see it now... some altercation happening, a woman being attacked, and there is the hero Freon to shame the bad guy. "Hey you, stop!" And when that fails? You will just stand there and watch...
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Post by freonbale on Apr 22, 2024 15:34:24 GMT
I can, and have, spoken up when I saw an issue occur right in front of me. Even when everyone else chose to look the other way. You really don't understand me at all. But when I DID speak up, it was not to resolve the crime myself. I stabilized the situation, then called the police, and they came and dealt with it. That is the social contract we have with them. And what was the result? In my case, it was to shame all those other people for NOT doing what I did. What's funny to me in your response, is that you would have me believe that YOU would resolve the situation yourself, and I think that's bullshit. YOU, are a coward. All of you who hide behind your guns, are. What I did, I did WITHOUT a gun. Freon LOL, you shamed someone?! Oh yeah, you are a serious person all right. I can see it now... some altercation happening, a woman being attacked, and there is the hero Freon to shame the bad guy. "Hey you, stop!" And when that fails? You will just stand there and watch... Someone? As in, just one person? No. I shamed dozens of people who should have stood up for what was right. Policy for that group was changed after what I did, mandating that people do so. I was spit on, face to face, by the person who was breaking the law, but I held my ground. That person wanted to hurt me, no question about it. I have to ask if someone like you would have held their ground. I doubt it. You're a coward. ALL of you righties are cowards, who talk a big talk, but when it comes to actually standing behind your words, you back down every time. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 16:28:07 GMT
LOL, you shamed someone?! Oh yeah, you are a serious person all right. I can see it now... some altercation happening, a woman being attacked, and there is the hero Freon to shame the bad guy. "Hey you, stop!" And when that fails? You will just stand there and watch... Someone? As in, just one person? No. I shamed dozens of people who should have stood up for what was right. Policy for that group was changed after what I did, mandating that people do so. I was spit on, face to face, by the person who was breaking the law, but I held my ground. That person wanted to hurt me, no question about it. I have to ask if someone like you would have held their ground. I doubt it. You're a coward. ALL of you righties are cowards, who talk a big talk, but when it comes to actually standing behind your words, you back down every time. Freon Held your ground... how? Are you now an advocate for violence to stop bad people from doing bad things and to defend yourself? Finally getting you to come around!
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Post by freonbale on Apr 22, 2024 16:41:22 GMT
Someone? As in, just one person? No. I shamed dozens of people who should have stood up for what was right. Policy for that group was changed after what I did, mandating that people do so. I was spit on, face to face, by the person who was breaking the law, but I held my ground. That person wanted to hurt me, no question about it. I have to ask if someone like you would have held their ground. I doubt it. You're a coward. ALL of you righties are cowards, who talk a big talk, but when it comes to actually standing behind your words, you back down every time. Freon Held your ground... how? Are you now an advocate for violence to stop bad people from doing bad things and to defend yourself? Finally getting you to come around! I used no violence. I advocate no violence. I simply didn't leave. I stood face-to-face (within a respectful distance) with the person, I documented the event with my phone's camera. It forced the person to stay. Had Rittenhouse used a camera to shoot, instead of a gun, those people would have been found and held accountable for their crimes. Instead, he sought out violence, he found violence, and he responded with violence. Just like he intended. Again, I'm not disagreeing with the verdict. He LEGALLY acted violently, but that does not mean he behaved as he should have in a civil society. And civil society, which you assholes don't seem to want to be part of, will now ostracize him for the rest of his life. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 16:44:47 GMT
Held your ground... how? Are you now an advocate for violence to stop bad people from doing bad things and to defend yourself? Finally getting you to come around! I used no violence. I advocate no violence. I simply didn't leave. I stood face-to-face (within a respectful distance) with the person, I documented the event with my phone's camera. It forced the person to stay. Had Rittenhouse used a camera to shoot, instead of a gun, those people would have been found and held accountable for their crimes. Instead, he sought out violence, he found violence, and he responded with violence. Just like he intended. Again, I'm not disagreeing with the verdict. He LEGALLY acted violently, but that does not mean he behaved as he should have in a civil society. And civil society, which you assholes don't seem to want to be part of, will now ostracize him for the rest of his life. Freon LOL, like I said, you would stand there and watch in the end. And you do advocate violence, you just want to outsource it to someone else to do it for you while you cowardly watch.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 22, 2024 16:56:07 GMT
I used no violence. I advocate no violence. I simply didn't leave. I stood face-to-face (within a respectful distance) with the person, I documented the event with my phone's camera. It forced the person to stay. Had Rittenhouse used a camera to shoot, instead of a gun, those people would have been found and held accountable for their crimes. Instead, he sought out violence, he found violence, and he responded with violence. Just like he intended. Again, I'm not disagreeing with the verdict. He LEGALLY acted violently, but that does not mean he behaved as he should have in a civil society. And civil society, which you assholes don't seem to want to be part of, will now ostracize him for the rest of his life. Freon LOL, like I said, you would stand there and watch in the end. And you do advocate violence, you just want to outsource it to someone else to do it for you while you cowardly watch. Interesting way of putting it. I would agree, our social contract is to outsource violence, if necessary, to those qualified and sanctioned to know when to use it, how to use, and how much of it to use. I would MUCH rather have that, than any citizen deciding on their own, those three parameters. I don't trust people like you and Rittenhouse to make good decisions. You're all WAY too emotional Karens. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 17:12:35 GMT
LOL, like I said, you would stand there and watch in the end. And you do advocate violence, you just want to outsource it to someone else to do it for you while you cowardly watch. Interesting way of putting it. I would agree, our social contract is to outsource violence, if necessary, to those qualified and sanctioned to know when to use it, how to use, and how much of it to use. I would MUCH rather have that, than any citizen deciding on their own, those three parameters. I don't trust people like you and Rittenhouse to make good decisions. You're all WAY too emotional Karens. Freon You don't trust yourself, so you think you are an emotional Karen. And back to the point, you just admitted that yes, you would stand there and watch a woman get raped or beaten by her abusive spouse.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 22, 2024 17:16:06 GMT
Interesting way of putting it. I would agree, our social contract is to outsource violence, if necessary, to those qualified and sanctioned to know when to use it, how to use, and how much of it to use. I would MUCH rather have that, than any citizen deciding on their own, those three parameters. I don't trust people like you and Rittenhouse to make good decisions. You're all WAY too emotional Karens. Freon You don't trust yourself, so you think you are an emotional Karen. And back to the point, you just admitted that yes, you would stand there and watch a woman get raped or beaten by her abusive spouse. Is that what your simple mind tells you I would do? It's incorrect. Violence is simply the last, last, LAST, resort. It's a tool in the tool chest, but everything else should be tried first. Rittenhouse and you want ONLY violence as a tool. That makes you both dangerous. Too dangerous to be meting out justice by yourselves. Freon
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Post by thecitizen on Apr 22, 2024 17:26:42 GMT
Because there is no need to continue a conversation with a person that believes the shit that you do You are a sad pathetic lying coward. Sure
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Post by thecitizen on Apr 22, 2024 17:27:42 GMT
No, the victims were protesting, not rioting. Heroes don’t kill unarmed people, thugs do. There was no foot that night You are a sad pathetic lying coward. Rosenbaum was the one out there trying to set fires and throwing rocks. He was upset with Rittenhouse because Rittenhouse was putting out fires. Why is it you think your innocent unarmed "victim" Rosenbaum was chasing Rittenhouse? Why did Rosenbaum lunge for Rittenhouse trying to grab his gun once he had him pinned enough to do so? Why was he making threats to Rittenhouse? Most importantly, why are you lying to protect the thug Rosenbaum? You are a sad pathetic liar
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 17:55:29 GMT
You are a sad pathetic lying coward. Rosenbaum was the one out there trying to set fires and throwing rocks. He was upset with Rittenhouse because Rittenhouse was putting out fires. Why is it you think your innocent unarmed "victim" Rosenbaum was chasing Rittenhouse? Why did Rosenbaum lunge for Rittenhouse trying to grab his gun once he had him pinned enough to do so? Why was he making threats to Rittenhouse? Most importantly, why are you lying to protect the thug Rosenbaum? You are a sad pathetic liar Nope, but I see all you can be is a mindless parrot now. Keep running little coward.
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 17:56:38 GMT
You don't trust yourself, so you think you are an emotional Karen. And back to the point, you just admitted that yes, you would stand there and watch a woman get raped or beaten by her abusive spouse. Is that what your simple mind tells you I would do? It's incorrect. Violence is simply the last, last, LAST, resort. It's a tool in the tool chest, but everything else should be tried first. Rittenhouse and you want ONLY violence as a tool. That makes you both dangerous. Too dangerous to be meting out justice by yourselves. Freon First you say you don't trust yourself because you are a Karen... now you say it is a last resort. It is almost like you will simply say anything... because you are a pathological liar.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 22, 2024 19:40:37 GMT
Is that what your simple mind tells you I would do? It's incorrect. Violence is simply the last, last, LAST, resort. It's a tool in the tool chest, but everything else should be tried first. Rittenhouse and you want ONLY violence as a tool. That makes you both dangerous. Too dangerous to be meting out justice by yourselves. Freon First you say you don't trust yourself because you are a Karen... now you say it is a last resort. It is almost like you will simply say anything... because you are a pathological liar. I would LOVE to dissect that irrational mind of yours, that can take bits and pieces of disconnected and irrelevant information, and sew it all into a fictional cohesive reality. Amazing! Because each and every conclusion you came to is inaccurate and misrepresentative, bordering on paranoid. Freon
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