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Post by Odysseus on Feb 17, 2024 4:54:46 GMT
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Post by bama beau on Feb 17, 2024 8:10:49 GMT
More miraculous than any creation mythos.
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 20, 2024 17:26:23 GMT
More miraculous than any creation mythos. A "mythos" might not exist for the reason you think it does. And...is it miraculous for water molecules to be present on asteroids? I would think that it would be expected, that is, that nobody is really surprised to find confirmation for what was expected...
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Post by DaveJavu on Feb 21, 2024 0:08:19 GMT
More miraculous than any creation mythos. A "mythos" might not exist for the reason you think it does. And...is it miraculous for water molecules to be present on asteroids? I would think that it would be expected, that is, that nobody is really surprised to find confirmation for what was expected... Amino acids were a little less expected when they were found for the first time. Which means that the first "bricks of life" can even appear in the most unforgiving of environments. Life could be present on billions of planets throughout the universe. Doesn't that give you pause? The questions that could come to your mind: 1) How many planets did Jesus appear on? 2) does he always die on each planet executed by the dominant life form in a gruesome way? 3) Doesn't he get tired of playing the same role again and again with a similar outcome?
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 21, 2024 1:42:38 GMT
A "mythos" might not exist for the reason you think it does. And...is it miraculous for water molecules to be present on asteroids? I would think that it would be expected, that is, that nobody is really surprised to find confirmation for what was expected... Amino acids were a little less expected when they were found for the first time. Which means that the first "bricks of life" can even appear in the most unforgiving of environments. Life could be present on billions of planets throughout the universe. Doesn't that give you pause? The questions that could come to your mind: 1) How many planets did Jesus appear on? 2) does he always die on each planet executed by the dominant life form in a gruesome way? 3) Doesn't he get tired of playing the same role again and again with a similar outcome? Was the discovery of amino acids a "miracle"?
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Post by Odysseus on Feb 21, 2024 2:40:57 GMT
Amino acids were a little less expected when they were found for the first time. Which means that the first "bricks of life" can even appear in the most unforgiving of environments. Life could be present on billions of planets throughout the universe. Doesn't that give you pause? The questions that could come to your mind: 1) How many planets did Jesus appear on? 2) does he always die on each planet executed by the dominant life form in a gruesome way? 3) Doesn't he get tired of playing the same role again and again with a similar outcome? Was the discovery of amino acids a "miracle"?
Here's an idea: Why don't you do some research in the discovery of amino acids and get back to us with the results?
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 21, 2024 2:55:46 GMT
Was the discovery of amino acids a "miracle"?
Here's an idea: Why don't you do some research in the discovery of amino acids and get back to us with the results?
What's the relevance? Is it a miracle or not?
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Post by Odysseus on Feb 21, 2024 4:06:33 GMT
Here's an idea: Why don't you do some research in the discovery of amino acids and get back to us with the results?
What's the relevance? Is it a miracle or not?
Well, there's the answer!
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 21, 2024 12:50:26 GMT
What's the relevance? Is it a miracle or not?
Well, there's the answer!
Is it a miracle or is it not a miracle?
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Post by Odysseus on Feb 21, 2024 17:07:48 GMT
Well, there's the answer!
Is it a miracle or is it not a miracle? I dunno.
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Post by DaveJavu on Feb 21, 2024 22:14:15 GMT
Amino acids were a little less expected when they were found for the first time. Which means that the first "bricks of life" can even appear in the most unforgiving of environments. Life could be present on billions of planets throughout the universe. Doesn't that give you pause? The questions that could come to your mind: 1) How many planets did Jesus appear on? 2) does he always die on each planet executed by the dominant life form in a gruesome way? 3) Doesn't he get tired of playing the same role again and again with a similar outcome? Was the discovery of amino acids a "miracle"? No way.
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Post by bama beau on Feb 22, 2024 1:56:31 GMT
More miraculous than any creation mythos. A "mythos" might not exist for the reason you think it does. And...is it miraculous for water molecules to be present on asteroids? I would think that it would be expected, that is, that nobody is really surprised to find confirmation for what was expected... The cosmos delivered our water on incoming comets and asteroids. What is more miraculous than that?
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 22, 2024 2:11:28 GMT
A "mythos" might not exist for the reason you think it does. And...is it miraculous for water molecules to be present on asteroids? I would think that it would be expected, that is, that nobody is really surprised to find confirmation for what was expected... The cosmos delivered our water on incoming comets and asteroids. What is more miraculous than that? I don't know if you're using the word "miracle" literally here...
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Post by bama beau on Feb 22, 2024 2:54:38 GMT
The cosmos delivered our water on incoming comets and asteroids. What is more miraculous than that? I don't know if you're using the word "miracle" literally here... While I too can be overly pedantic, I'd like to include the word miracleon the list of words above pedantry. The delivery of all the water necessary to sustain all the life on this miracle of a planet for the past 3.5+ billion years via collisions with other astral bodies is miraculous by any type of reckoning, no? Literally.
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 22, 2024 18:59:41 GMT
I don't know if you're using the word "miracle" literally here... While I too can be overly pedantic, I'd like to include the word miracleon the list of words above pedantry. The delivery of all the water necessary to sustain all the life on this miracle of a planet for the past 3.5+ billion years via collisions with other astral bodies is miraculous by any type of reckoning, no? Literally.I don't know if your usage of the word is a metaphoric "highly unlikely" or a literal "divine intervention"...
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Post by DaveJavu on Feb 22, 2024 23:57:07 GMT
I don't know if you're using the word "miracle" literally here... While I too can be overly pedantic, I'd like to include the word miracleon the list of words above pedantry. The delivery of all the water necessary to sustain all the life on this miracle of a planet for the past 3.5+ billion years via collisions with other astral bodies is miraculous by any type of reckoning, no? Literally.Well, planets are the final result of the collisions of countless asteroids (themselves being caused by the accretion of cosmic dust coming from the remnants of novae and supernovas). So everything a planet contains comes from these asteroids and that of course includes its water. So finding water in some asteroids is not only NOT miraculous at all but it was very expected. In fact if it was proven that asteroids NEVER contain water THEN you would have your miracle because the existence of this water would be a total mystery. IOW, you're off the mark, way off the mark!
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Post by DaveJavu on Feb 23, 2024 0:03:00 GMT
While I too can be overly pedantic, I'd like to include the word miracleon the list of words above pedantry. The delivery of all the water necessary to sustain all the life on this miracle of a planet for the past 3.5+ billion years via collisions with other astral bodies is miraculous by any type of reckoning, no? Literally.I don't know if your usage of the word is a metaphoric "highly unlikely" or a literal "divine intervention"... Yeah, I'd be curious to know why water is any more "unlikely" than any other molecule found on Earth. Water is necessary for us to be alive but so are many other things like iron for example. We couldn't exist in an environment totally lacking in iron. We may survive there for a short time but eventually we would die and we could certainly not have children there. Why isn't iron miraculous as well?
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Post by Odysseus on Feb 23, 2024 2:06:28 GMT
I don't know if your usage of the word is a metaphoric "highly unlikely" or a literal "divine intervention"... Yeah, I'd be curious to know why water is any more "unlikely" than any other molecule found on Earth. Water is necessary for us to be alive but so are many other things like iron for example. We couldn't exist in an environment totally lacking in iron. We may survive there for a short time but eventually we would die and we could certainly not have children there. Why isn't iron miraculous as well?
Maybe it's just ironic?
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 23, 2024 2:44:47 GMT
Yeah, I'd be curious to know why water is any more "unlikely" than any other molecule found on Earth. Water is necessary for us to be alive but so are many other things like iron for example. We couldn't exist in an environment totally lacking in iron. We may survive there for a short time but eventually we would die and we could certainly not have children there. Why isn't iron miraculous as well?
Maybe it's just ironic?
I see what you did there.
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Post by bama beau on Feb 23, 2024 4:34:09 GMT
While I too can be overly pedantic, I'd like to include the word miracleon the list of words above pedantry. The delivery of all the water necessary to sustain all the life on this miracle of a planet for the past 3.5+ billion years via collisions with other astral bodies is miraculous by any type of reckoning, no? Literally.Well, planets are the final result of the collisions of countless asteroids (themselves being caused by the accretion of cosmic dust coming from the remnants of novae and supernovas). So everything a planet contains comes from these asteroids and that of course includes its water. So finding water in some asteroids is not only NOT miraculous at all but it was very expected. In fact if it was proven that asteroids NEVER contain water THEN you would have your miracle because the existence of this water would be a total mystery. IOW, you're off the mark, way off the mark! What you call an accretion of cosmic dust I call the cosmos. Up until just a moment ago, the smartest creatures on this planet thought their water came from upstream, or from a storm cloud, or maybe from a mountain top glacier. But you and I, when asked where our water came from, we say it came "from comets and asteroids." Life on this planet for damned near four billion years, and only the last couple of generations of humans have been able to think of and say that. We are miracles, bro. Own it.
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