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Post by DaveJavu on Jan 2, 2024 13:28:04 GMT
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Post by Mercy for All on Jan 11, 2024 16:42:07 GMT
I believe "AI-created art" to be inferior, but it's hard to say why. Partly, I think it's because at this point it's a mere second-reflection of human art—but it might not always be. What are some reasons that "this is the end"? |
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Post by DaveJavu on Jan 11, 2024 22:19:32 GMT
I believe "AI-created art" to be inferior, but it's hard to say why. Partly, I think it's because at this point it's a mere second-reflection of human art—but it might not always be. What are some reasons that "this is the end"? I am thinking along the lines of the way Stephen Hawking did. He thought AI could cause the end of humankind. Here's a quote about that: "It will either be the best thing that's ever happened to us, or it will be the worst thing. If we're not careful, it very well may be the last thing." |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jan 11, 2024 23:11:13 GMT
I believe "AI-created art" to be inferior, but it's hard to say why. Partly, I think it's because at this point it's a mere second-reflection of human art—but it might not always be. What are some reasons that "this is the end"? I am thinking along the lines of the way Stephen Hawking did. He thought AI could cause the end of humankind. Here's a quote about that: "It will either be the best thing that's ever happened to us, or it will be the worst thing. If we're not careful, it very well may be the last thing." Makes sense, but did he say why? Most people picture a Terminator-type Skynet, but I think there are more subtle dangers... |
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Post by DaveJavu on Jan 11, 2024 23:17:41 GMT
I am thinking along the lines of the way Stephen Hawking did. He thought AI could cause the end of humankind. Here's a quote about that: "It will either be the best thing that's ever happened to us, or it will be the worst thing. If we're not careful, it very well may be the last thing." Makes sense, but did he say why? Most people picture a Terminator-type Skynet, but I think there are more subtle dangers... Terminator is a caricature but there is some truth to it, like in all good caricatures. Ask yourself: "What will happen to people if it is possible to have AIs do pretty much everything human beings can do (AI commanding robots of course) and doing it better and cheaper?" I mean there may be some jobs spared by the AIs for some reason but IMO too few to occupy the billions populating this planet. Do you think these people will received a stipend by the state doing nothing? How does that work in a capitalistic society? It doesn't. So what then? |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jan 12, 2024 2:55:15 GMT
Makes sense, but did he say why? Most people picture a Terminator-type Skynet, but I think there are more subtle dangers... Terminator is a caricature but there is some truth to it, like in all good caricatures. Ask yourself: "What will happen to people if it is possible to have AIs do pretty much everything human beings can do (AI commanding robots of course) and doing it better and cheaper?" I mean there may be some jobs spared by the AIs for some reason but IMO too few to occupy the billions populating this planet. Do you think these people will received a stipend by the state doing nothing? How does that work in a capitalistic society? It doesn't. So what then? Have you read The Expanse series? It describes basically two tiers of existence—those on "Basic" (what it sounds like...living on food rations, free housing, opportunity for advancement if people have the aptitude and initiative) and those that grow up with enough wealth to live "free" (although their descendants could spend it down to nothing and end up on Basic). I see that as a possibility. The series also describes those "outside the system"—undocumented births that don't end up "on a list" surviving in the underbelly of society. The series isn't "about that"; it's just part the backdrop, but I see that situation as a real possibility. That's the kind of thing I mean when I say that the dangers are not just "Terminator-style." We see it a little bit today, as cashiers are being replaced by self-service checkouts. Maybe in 10-20 years we will look back on cashier jobs as demeaning, a step above slavery. But what kinds of jobs would replace it? In Canada, there have already some pilot projects testing minimum basic income (although I'm not sure any went full term). From what I understand, in general the result have been promising. Which is uncomfortable for us capitalists. |
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