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Post by freonbale on Oct 27, 2023 18:35:54 GMT
I like that summation. It seems like you finally understand where you stand. Now just imagine it on a national scale, and you will have fully comprehended your position. Freon I’m glad we agree that you think your subjective and arbitrary statements based on emotion are winning arguments. And me asking you to further support your position is losing. But we already knew that, didn’t we? When you bragged about the outcome of your experiment on the hustle of the “left” versus the entitlement of the “far right” while being unable to provide a shred of actual evidence for it? Lol. But your emotions and biases certainly had you really, really feeling like it went “exactly” as you predicted? Roflmao. It's dazzling watching you work, rabbit. You've got it all figured out. I wonder why things aren't going your way... Freon |
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 27, 2023 19:18:21 GMT
No, history is being perverted by leftist perverts. Lee was no traitor, nor were any of the Confederates because they had legally left the Union before any shots were fired.
Evidently you prefer the lie that they were traitors and the lie that the Confederates were not the good guys when history proves both of those wrong.
Sorry, celebrating the removal and destruction of that statue is the reaction of lesser men and weaker minds that really don't care about the actual history.
How stupid and arrogant it is to think that you have a greater understanding than those who actually lived through that era and erected and maintained that statue for so many years.
Mao would be so proud of you ability to fanatically purge anything that conflicts with the revolution. You and your ilk are little more than minions of the same kind of ideology.
Well there you have it, then. You see the Confederates as good guys, and I see them as traitors. Confederate statues commemorating leaders who defied the will of their national government they took an oath to follow are not to be admired, to me. Those statues are a final defiance, denying they lost the Civil War. Denying they were wrong. But they DID lose. And they WERE wrong. And by proxy, that means that YOU lost and YOU are wrong. And more Americans see it that way then you do. Removing those statues removes a FALSE history. Or heck, leave them up, but change their little plaques to say we are keeping them to show who the bad guys were. To remind us that if we are not careful, these types of people are the consequence. I'm fine with that. Freon Yes, the Confederates lost, but no, they were not wrong at all. You gave the game away with your statement that they "defied the will of their national government they took an oath to follow"; this is extremely Orwellian and reflects the kind of centralized cult fanaticism that the Confederates were fighting against in 1861-1865.
Once again, I can easily prove to you that the Confederates exercised their legal right under the Constitution to leave the compact, which instanly severed any allegiance to any part of the U.S. Constitution. Calling them "traitors" is just stupid if you know what the Constitution says and doesn't say.
Only tyrants would see Confederate resistance as betrayal. Yes, those statues were a final defiance representing a group of people who were courageous enough to defy the perversions of the Founders' vision of a very limited federal government and more localized governance.
Confederate memorials were and are a reminder that Patriot resistance to unconstitutional federal power grabs and tyranny will always be the right thing to do.
The real goal of removing these statues is to send the message that such resistance, any reminders of past opposition, and even any passing thoughts while glancing at these old monuments, will not be tolerated by the Thought Police.
It really is like the Mao Cultural Revolution.
Freon, if your ideology had any real value and could stand scrutiny, there would be no need for the kind of purges that you celebrate. By the removal of these monuments, you and your ilk are admitting that your narrative is so weak that it cannot stand the competition in an open and free forum. It's tantamount to admitting that the Confederates were right and that evidence of that fact must be destroyed and hidden from view so as to not affect the ongoing liberal brainwashing of the sheep.
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 27, 2023 19:23:24 GMT
You mean the Emancipation Proclamation that freed no slaves at all and allowed border state slave owners to keep their slaves?
Archie got it wrong though.....the Confederates weren't just as American as you, they were far better people than you and your ilk will ever be.
Yeah, people who wanted to preserve slavery were the better people  Just like us today, they were flawed people, but slavery was not their cause. We kill unborn children by the millions these days, which is far worse than slavery will ever be. Only a moron would judge this country by that evil alone, yet a simpleton like you does exactly that where the Confederacy is concerned.
You've been fed a lie, you've been brainwashed with that lie and now you're regurgitating that lie all over this forum like vomit after an all night bender.
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Post by freonbale on Oct 27, 2023 19:36:03 GMT
Well there you have it, then. You see the Confederates as good guys, and I see them as traitors. Confederate statues commemorating leaders who defied the will of their national government they took an oath to follow are not to be admired, to me. Those statues are a final defiance, denying they lost the Civil War. Denying they were wrong. But they DID lose. And they WERE wrong. And by proxy, that means that YOU lost and YOU are wrong. And more Americans see it that way then you do. Removing those statues removes a FALSE history. Or heck, leave them up, but change their little plaques to say we are keeping them to show who the bad guys were. To remind us that if we are not careful, these types of people are the consequence. I'm fine with that. Freon Yes, the Confederates lost, but no, they were not wrong at all. You gave the game away with your statement that they "defied the will of their national government they took an oath to follow"; this is extremely Orwellian and reflects the kind of centralized cult fanaticism that the Confederates were fighting against in 1861-1865.
Once again, I can easily prove to you that the Confederates exercised their legal right under the Constitution to leave the compact, which instanly severed any allegiance to any part of the U.S. Constitution. Calling them "traitors" is just stupid if you know what the Constitution says and doesn't say.
Only tyrants would see Confederate resistance as betrayal. Yes, those statues were a final defiance representing a group of people who were courageous enough to defy the perversions of the Founders' vision of a very limited federal government and more localized governance.
Confederate memorials were and are a reminder that Patriot resistance to unconstitutional federal power grabs and tyranny will always be the right thing to do.
The real goal of removing these statues is to send the message that such resistance, any reminders of past opposition, and even any passing thoughts while glancing at these old monuments, will not be tolerated by the Thought Police.
It really is like the Mao Cultural Revolution.
Freon, if your ideology had any real value and could stand scrutiny, there would be no need for the kind of purges that you celebrate. By the removal of these monuments, you and your ilk are admitting that your narrative is so weak that it cannot stand the competition in an open and free forum. It's tantamount to admitting that the Confederates were right and that evidence of that fact must be destroyed and hidden from view so as to not affect the ongoing liberal brainwashing of the sheep.
Oh, so removing statues is now 'purges'? Just like the Holocaust, eh? I appreciate your honesty in acknowledging that you supported slavery, but you lost, fair and square. And because we were gracious winners, we tolerated your retention of symbols for those you loved, who died. But no one is alive today who had loved ones they lost, so those same statues merely symbolize what those people fought FOR, which was retention of slavery and the 'southern' way of life. I say good riddance. There is nothing to be learned or honored by those people anymore. Freon |
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 27, 2023 19:59:20 GMT
Yes, the Confederates lost, but no, they were not wrong at all. You gave the game away with your statement that they "defied the will of their national government they took an oath to follow"; this is extremely Orwellian and reflects the kind of centralized cult fanaticism that the Confederates were fighting against in 1861-1865.
Once again, I can easily prove to you that the Confederates exercised their legal right under the Constitution to leave the compact, which instanly severed any allegiance to any part of the U.S. Constitution. Calling them "traitors" is just stupid if you know what the Constitution says and doesn't say.
Only tyrants would see Confederate resistance as betrayal. Yes, those statues were a final defiance representing a group of people who were courageous enough to defy the perversions of the Founders' vision of a very limited federal government and more localized governance.
Confederate memorials were and are a reminder that Patriot resistance to unconstitutional federal power grabs and tyranny will always be the right thing to do.
The real goal of removing these statues is to send the message that such resistance, any reminders of past opposition, and even any passing thoughts while glancing at these old monuments, will not be tolerated by the Thought Police.
It really is like the Mao Cultural Revolution.
Freon, if your ideology had any real value and could stand scrutiny, there would be no need for the kind of purges that you celebrate. By the removal of these monuments, you and your ilk are admitting that your narrative is so weak that it cannot stand the competition in an open and free forum. It's tantamount to admitting that the Confederates were right and that evidence of that fact must be destroyed and hidden from view so as to not affect the ongoing liberal brainwashing of the sheep.
Oh, so removing statues is now 'purges'? Just like the Holocaust, eh? I appreciate your honesty in acknowledging that you supported slavery, but you lost, fair and square. And because we were gracious winners, we tolerated your retention of symbols for those you loved, who died. But no one is alive today who had loved ones they lost, so those same statues merely symbolize what those people fought FOR, which was retention of slavery and the 'southern' way of life. I say good riddance. There is nothing to be learned or honored by those people anymore. Freon Do you want to admit that you just lied by claiming that I supported slavery or do you want me to make sure the forum knows that you just lied? Your call.
Of course, that would lead you to having to admit that the claim that Confederates fought for the "retention of slavery and the 'southern' way of life" is also untrue. But that might be excused by your ignorance of history and cartoonish fealty to the false narrative that you've been brainwashed with.
"There is nothing to be learned or honored by those people anymore"....is an admission of how close minded you've always been. A critical thinker is always learning and looking for new and more complex perspectives. These statues scream that there's more depth and nuance to history than what has been told.
That's why you want those kind of reminders purged (and yes, it's a purge on par with Soviet history rewriting and Mao's destruction of past history). Your narrative is too weak to stand competition. It's amazing that you can't see the perverted intolerance inherent in the removal of these statues.
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Post by johnnybgood on Oct 27, 2023 20:49:31 GMT
Yeah, people who wanted to preserve slavery were the better people Just like us today, they were flawed people, but slavery was not their cause. We kill unborn children by the millions these days, which is far worse than slavery will ever be. Only a moron would judge this country by that evil alone, yet a simpleton like you does exactly that where the Confederacy is concerned.
You've been fed a lie, you've been brainwashed with that lie and now you're regurgitating that lie all over this forum like vomit after an all night bender.
Abortion worse then US slavery? Dude, there might be some details into slave treatment you're not aware of. On some (or majority) plantations the barn animals were treated better. But they did get a choice I guess the fetus didn't. "Work for free sun up to sun down in the heat in the south or be killed" instead of just killed like the fetus. |
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Post by freonbale on Oct 27, 2023 20:58:54 GMT
Oh, so removing statues is now 'purges'? Just like the Holocaust, eh? I appreciate your honesty in acknowledging that you supported slavery, but you lost, fair and square. And because we were gracious winners, we tolerated your retention of symbols for those you loved, who died. But no one is alive today who had loved ones they lost, so those same statues merely symbolize what those people fought FOR, which was retention of slavery and the 'southern' way of life. I say good riddance. There is nothing to be learned or honored by those people anymore. Freon Do you want to admit that you just lied by claiming that I supported slavery or do you want me to make sure the forum knows that you just lied? Your call.
Of course, that would lead you to having to admit that the claim that Confederates fought for the "retention of slavery and the 'southern' way of life" is also untrue. But that might be excused by your ignorance of history and cartoonish fealty to the false narrative that you've been brainwashed with.
"There is nothing to be learned or honored by those people anymore"....is an admission of how close minded you've always been. A critical thinker is always learning and looking for new and more complex perspectives. These statues scream that there's more depth and nuance to history than what has been told.
That's why you want those kind of reminders purged (and yes, it's a purge on par with Soviet history rewriting and Mao's destruction of past history). Your narrative is too weak to stand competition. It's amazing that you can't see the perverted intolerance inherent in the removal of these statues.
I love it, Paleo. Go. Tell the forum your story. Get a quorum. Make me pay! You do a lot of talking, but you have zero bite. SHOW me your will, don't tell me about it. Freon |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 21:00:52 GMT
Someone should turn the story of this statue into a big budget Hollywood film. It would lose a ton of money but it would win all kinds of Academy awards. Or else.
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 27, 2023 21:23:57 GMT
Do you want to admit that you just lied by claiming that I supported slavery or do you want me to make sure the forum knows that you just lied? Your call.
Of course, that would lead you to having to admit that the claim that Confederates fought for the "retention of slavery and the 'southern' way of life" is also untrue. But that might be excused by your ignorance of history and cartoonish fealty to the false narrative that you've been brainwashed with.
"There is nothing to be learned or honored by those people anymore"....is an admission of how close minded you've always been. A critical thinker is always learning and looking for new and more complex perspectives. These statues scream that there's more depth and nuance to history than what has been told.
That's why you want those kind of reminders purged (and yes, it's a purge on par with Soviet history rewriting and Mao's destruction of past history). Your narrative is too weak to stand competition. It's amazing that you can't see the perverted intolerance inherent in the removal of these statues.
I love it, Paleo. Go. Tell the forum your story. Get a quorum. Make me pay! You do a lot of talking, but you have zero bite. SHOW me your will, don't tell me about it. Freon With your claim of constant honesty that you've made here, it's your credibility and reputation on the line when you can't back up what you spew.
I'm just pointing out how you stupidly and falsely generalize and make unsupportable proclamations like the one above.
By the way, in case you didn't notice, I've already told the forum that you posted that falsehood before you even replied.
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Post by freonbale on Oct 27, 2023 21:37:10 GMT
I love it, Paleo. Go. Tell the forum your story. Get a quorum. Make me pay! You do a lot of talking, but you have zero bite. SHOW me your will, don't tell me about it. Freon With your claim of constant honesty that you've made here, it's your credibility and reputation on the line when you can't back up what you spew.
I'm just pointing out how you stupidly and falsely generalize and make unsupportable proclamations like the one above.
By the way, in case you didn't notice, I've already told the forum that you posted that falsehood before you even replied.
You go pointing out to your heart's content, Paleo, I do not fear your ability to damage my reputation. SHOW me your will. Make me rue ever challenging the mighty Paleo! Or be a pussy. Your call. As to your official complaint about me, I am actually fascinated to see just what the mods do about it. Freon |
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 27, 2023 21:45:12 GMT
Just like us today, they were flawed people, but slavery was not their cause. We kill unborn children by the millions these days, which is far worse than slavery will ever be. Only a moron would judge this country by that evil alone, yet a simpleton like you does exactly that where the Confederacy is concerned.
You've been fed a lie, you've been brainwashed with that lie and now you're regurgitating that lie all over this forum like vomit after an all night bender.
Abortion worse then US slavery? Dude, there might be some details into slave treatment you're not aware of. On some (or majority) plantations the barn animals were treated better. But they did get a choice I guess the fetus didn't. "Work for free sun up to sun down in the heat in the south or be killed" instead of just killed like the fetus. Do they teach you history or statistics in Maine or was the snow too deep for you to get to school that day? Only about a half million slaves were brought into North America total, about 5% of the total shipped out of Africa after their African masters sold them. There were only about four million toital in the U.S. at the end of the war and the only ones killing them were the Union troops that were intentionally allowing them to starve and die of disease after they were freed. Contrast that to SIXTY THREE million children butchered in the abortion mills, no chance, no voice, no life. |
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 27, 2023 21:55:14 GMT
With your claim of constant honesty that you've made here, it's your credibility and reputation on the line when you can't back up what you spew.
I'm just pointing out how you stupidly and falsely generalize and make unsupportable proclamations like the one above.
By the way, in case you didn't notice, I've already told the forum that you posted that falsehood before you even replied.
You go pointing out to your heart's content, Paleo, I do not fear your ability to damage my reputation. SHOW me your will. Make me rue ever challenging the mighty Paleo! Or be a pussy. Your call. As to your official complaint about me, I am actually fascinated to see just what the mods do about it. Freon I made no official complaint to anyone or to the mods, just called you out two posts ago on this thread when I posted this:
"Do you want to admit that you just lied by claiming that I supported slavery or do you want me to make sure the forum knows that you just lied?"
That WAS the notice to the forum.....right under your nose and you missed it, didn't you? Silly leftist.
I don't report folks (not for your kind of stupidity, at least) and I don't put anyone on ignore.
You've done the damage to your own reputation, Freon, by being yourself. I've just watched you implode and enjoyed every minute.
Anything else, mighty Freon?
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Post by freonbale on Oct 27, 2023 22:16:51 GMT
You go pointing out to your heart's content, Paleo, I do not fear your ability to damage my reputation. SHOW me your will. Make me rue ever challenging the mighty Paleo! Or be a pussy. Your call. As to your official complaint about me, I am actually fascinated to see just what the mods do about it. Freon I made no official complaint to anyone or to the mods, just called you out two posts ago on this thread when I posted this:
"Do you want to admit that you just lied by claiming that I supported slavery or do you want me to make sure the forum knows that you just lied?"
That WAS the notice to the forum.....right under your nose and you missed it, didn't you? Silly leftist.
I don't report folks (not for your kind of stupidity, at least) and I don't put anyone on ignore.
You've done the damage to your own reputation, Freon, by being yourself. I've just watched you implode and enjoyed every minute.
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Post by HolyMoly on Oct 27, 2023 22:24:33 GMT
Bobby Lee was a hero to most, but he never meant shit to me. As much fun as it was seeing a Lee Lee meltdown,
it was more fun to see mass murderer Columbus dumped into the sea. How appropriate.
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Post by johnnybgood on Oct 27, 2023 22:42:53 GMT
Abortion worse then US slavery? Dude, there might be some details into slave treatment you're not aware of. On some (or majority) plantations the barn animals were treated better. But they did get a choice I guess the fetus didn't. "Work for free sun up to sun down in the heat in the south or be killed" instead of just killed like the fetus. Do they teach you history or statistics in Maine or was the snow too deep for you to get to school that day? Only about a half million slaves were brought into North America total, about 5% of the total shipped out of Africa after their African masters sold them. There were only about four million toital in the U.S. at the end of the war and the only ones killing them were the Union troops that were intentionally allowing them to starve and die of disease after they were freed. Contrast that to SIXTY THREE million children butchered in the abortion mills, no chance, no voice, no life. I don't need your slavery history lesson. I know how they got here. Some African's were in on the trade. Im aware. But abortion vs slavery? You sound like BLM comparing slavery to the horrible life of blacks in America today Im pro "get you slutty kids on birth control" You spread your legs, it your fault. But I can't back you up on slavery and abortion. |
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 27, 2023 23:01:13 GMT
Yeah, people who wanted to preserve slavery were the better people Just like us today, they were flawed people, but slavery was not their cause. We kill unborn children by the millions these days, which is far worse than slavery will ever be. Only a moron would judge this country by that evil alone, yet a simpleton like you does exactly that where the Confederacy is concerned.
You've been fed a lie, you've been brainwashed with that lie and now you're regurgitating that lie all over this forum like vomit after an all night bender.
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Post by johnnybgood on Oct 27, 2023 23:09:43 GMT
I don't need your slavery history lesson. I know how they got here. Some African's were in on the trade. Im aware. But abortion vs slavery? You sound like BLM comparing slavery to the horrible life of blacks in America today Im pro "get you slutty kids on birth control" You spread your legs, it your fault. But I can't back you up on slavery and abortion. 'Only'? Just half a million? And once again, filthy degenerate, your concern every one of those 'babies' you wring your hands over disappears the instant they crown. Because unlike slavery (as it was for your slaver ancestors), there is no profit for you in them, is there? Are you talking to me? |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 27, 2023 23:39:00 GMT
I’m glad we agree that you think your subjective and arbitrary statements based on emotion are winning arguments. And me asking you to further support your position is losing. But we already knew that, didn’t we? When you bragged about the outcome of your experiment on the hustle of the “left” versus the entitlement of the “far right” while being unable to provide a shred of actual evidence for it? Lol. But your emotions and biases certainly had you really, really feeling like it went “exactly” as you predicted? Roflmao. It's dazzling watching you work, rabbit. You've got it all figured out. I wonder why things aren't going your way... Freon Neat. Tell me more about that. Go deeper on things that aren’t going my way. |
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Post by freonbale on Oct 28, 2023 0:02:06 GMT
It's dazzling watching you work, rabbit. You've got it all figured out. I wonder why things aren't going your way... Freon Neat. Tell me more about that. Go deeper on things that aren’t going my way. Well, there's this statue... Freon |
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Post by thor on Oct 28, 2023 0:30:03 GMT
'Only'? Just half a million? And once again, filthy degenerate, your concern every one of those 'babies' you wring your hands over disappears the instant they crown. Because unlike slavery (as it was for your slaver ancestors), there is no profit for you in them, is there? Are you talking to me? No. Deleted. |
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