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Post by petep on Jun 13, 2024 15:06:05 GMT
Putin must be contained, no? Contained how? He's practically containing himself.
His war in Ukraine is leading to Russia losing influence in its near abroad. Look at this conflict in particular. Russia was providing peacekeepers; but those have left and they've lost influence with Armenia (and haven't exactly gained influence with Azerbaijan).
Also, look at the Central Asian Republics. There Russia is losing its influence primarily to China.
Putin/Russia may get what it wants in Ukraine, but strategically, this war has been a disaster.
If you want someone to contain, might want to look at China, not Putin.
I don’t know about that. It seems the authoritarian nations of the world have lined up with Russia. Leftist communists like China as an example.
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Post by demos on Jun 13, 2024 16:13:50 GMT
I don’t know about that. It seems the authoritarian nations of the world have lined up with Russia. Leftist communists like China as an example. China is supporting Russia for its own purposes but also taking advantage of the situation to advance its own interests in Central Asia and the Caucasus and undermine Russian influence there. And those states are also taking the opportunity to move towards China and away from Russia.
Russia's ability to project power was already limited (they've been relying primarily on mercenaries and asymmetrical threats for years now) and this conflict has only further limited that ability (see the peacekeeping situation discussed in this thread). They are a serious conventional threat to some of their immediate neighbors, and if not for their nuclear arsenal, wouldn't be much of a threat beyond that.
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Post by petep on Jun 13, 2024 16:51:47 GMT
I don’t know about that. It seems the authoritarian nations of the world have lined up with Russia. Leftist communists like China as an example. China is supporting Russia for its own purposes but also taking advantage of the situation to advance its own interests in Central Asia and the Caucasus and undermine Russian influence there. And those states are also taking the opportunity to move towards China and away from Russia.
Russia's ability to project power was already limited (they've been relying primarily on mercenaries and asymmetrical threats for years now) and this conflict has only further limited that ability (see the peacekeeping situation discussed in this thread). They are a serious conventional threat to some of their immediate neighbors, and if not for their nuclear arsenal, wouldn't be much of a threat beyond that.
I’m in agreement with you. It’s been surprising to me that a country with an economy the size of Texas or florida, Russia, is drawing so much attention. But it has been clear to see the authoritarian nations line up together. And I get. If I ran a country with an iron fist, I would not like places like the us.
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Post by demos on Jul 12, 2024 20:06:20 GMT
"A peace deal, Washington also holds, would reduce the ability of Russia to meddle in regional political affairs."
This seems like wishful thinking, especially with Azerbaijan in control of Karabakh. A peace agreement would probably just confirm that status quo, while Russia - along with Iran - shift to dealing with the Azeri government (which is already happening).
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