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Post by william on Jul 10, 2023 20:14:20 GMT
Ya got me loony. I don't have data from the future, but I'm smart enough to know what happens to Florida construction, tourism and fruit and vegetable planting and harvest when the labor walks away. Apparently you aren't. Is there evidence that labor is leaving the state or is that merely a biased prediction? Labor most certainly is leaving. Read the news. Jobs are leaving too. Look at the convention and tourism cancelations. |
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Post by oldtrapper on Jul 10, 2023 20:15:23 GMT
From your own article you dumb piece of shit coward: "It's difficult to know the number of immigrants who have left the state. Local communities and leaders base counts on what they hear by word of mouth: a neighbor who left his house, a worker who never came to work." in other words they have no idea. Really dumb f*cks like you love to show off your ignorance, and are proud of being so.
It only proves they do not know exactly how many, but they do know they are leaving.
And it is not only the farmers that will be harmed. It is hotels, construction, etc.
And dumb f*cks like you only seek to defend your lying leaders.
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 11, 2023 19:26:11 GMT
What's happening now? Do you know who those people were working at that empty job site? Do you know where they lived and where they moved? Do you know anything about them or are you merely taking the word of someone saying, "OMG I drove by an empty job site today! That means all the illegal brown people fled!" Seems pretty racist and dumb. But hey, that's the modern leftist for ya. Miami — A controversial Florida law which took effect Saturday no longer recognizes driver's licenses issued to undocumented immigrants from other states, among other restrictions. It is part of a sweeping immigration bill signed by Republican Florida governor and presidential candidate Ron DeSantis back in May that is prompting many to leave the state. The run-up to the new law has sparked protests by immigrant workers, from those in the tourism and hospitality industry, to those who work in agricultural fields. "We are hearing people are starting to leave," Yvette Cruz with the Farmworkers Association of Florida told CBS News of reports of migrant workers abandoning fields and construction projects. "We're just gonna keep seeing that more as the law will take effect." The law also includes harsh penalties for those who try and hire or transport undocumented migrants, which critics say can include family members. www.cbsnews.com/news/migrant-workers-said-to-be-leaving-florida-restrictive-new-immigration-drivers-license-law/#Oh no, someone with a bias against the new law heard someone left! |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 11, 2023 19:27:53 GMT
Predictions aren't reality dumb dumb. Are you really this stupid? They are when you mindlessly refuse to consider significant changes. You - Florida great because it has always been great. Me - agree about the past, but accept that running off the labor force will effect the future No, I'm asking for evidence and proof. All you are providing is hearsay. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 11, 2023 19:28:55 GMT
Is there evidence that labor is leaving the state or is that merely a biased prediction? Labor most certainly is leaving. Read the news. Jobs are leaving too. Look at the convention and tourism cancelations. Prove it. This isn't difficult. Provide numbers and data. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 11, 2023 19:31:21 GMT
From your own article you dumb piece of shit coward: "It's difficult to know the number of immigrants who have left the state. Local communities and leaders base counts on what they hear by word of mouth: a neighbor who left his house, a worker who never came to work." in other words they have no idea. Really dumb f*cks like you love to show off your ignorance, and are proud of being so.
It only proves they do not know exactly how many, but they do know they are leaving.
And it is not only the farmers that will be harmed. It is hotels, construction, etc.
And dumb f*cks like you only seek to defend your lying leaders.
Stop trying to deflect from your own inability to read and understand your own article.. Once again, "It's difficult to know the number of immigrants who have left the state. Local communities and leaders base counts on what they hear by word of mouth: a neighbor who left his house, a worker who never came to work." That means they have no idea you dumb drunken coward. |
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Post by thecitizen on Jul 11, 2023 19:58:04 GMT
Miami — A controversial Florida law which took effect Saturday no longer recognizes driver's licenses issued to undocumented immigrants from other states, among other restrictions. It is part of a sweeping immigration bill signed by Republican Florida governor and presidential candidate Ron DeSantis back in May that is prompting many to leave the state. The run-up to the new law has sparked protests by immigrant workers, from those in the tourism and hospitality industry, to those who work in agricultural fields. "We are hearing people are starting to leave," Yvette Cruz with the Farmworkers Association of Florida told CBS News of reports of migrant workers abandoning fields and construction projects. "We're just gonna keep seeing that more as the law will take effect." The law also includes harsh penalties for those who try and hire or transport undocumented migrants, which critics say can include family members. www.cbsnews.com/news/migrant-workers-said-to-be-leaving-florida-restrictive-new-immigration-drivers-license-law/#Oh no, someone with a bias against the new law heard someone left! It’s not just someone. It’s happening. But stay in denial. Being in denial is a trait of the right |
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Post by CadesCove on Jul 12, 2023 13:11:01 GMT
This will be a boon to new construction. 😳
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 12, 2023 16:39:00 GMT
Oh no, someone with a bias against the new law heard someone left! It’s not just someone. It’s happening. But stay in denial. Being in denial is a trait of the right Here's what you don't understand because you're a moron. People are coming and going from states all the time. Will the new laws have an effect? Sure. It will be more difficult for illegals to live and move around in Florida. Some will move to friendlier states but at the same time there is an influx of people moving to Florida, population growth in that state is very high. Plus the state isn't completely dependent on illegal black market labor. This whole idea that the state is "failing" is garbage. There is no data to support that idea. It's merely partisan bullshit, wishful thinking on the part of brain dead leftists. |
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Post by thecitizen on Jul 12, 2023 16:48:38 GMT
It’s not just someone. It’s happening. But stay in denial. Being in denial is a trait of the right Here's what you don't understand because you're a moron. People are coming and going from states all the time. Will the new laws have an effect? Sure. It will be more difficult for illegals to live and move around in Florida. Some will move to friendlier states but at the same time there is an influx of people moving to Florida, population growth in that state is very high. Plus the state isn't completely dependent on illegal black market labor. This whole idea that the state is "failing" is garbage. There is no data to support that idea. It's merely partisan bullshit, wishful thinking on the part of brain dead leftists. Excuses, excuses |
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Post by archie on Jul 12, 2023 16:57:02 GMT
I was talking with one of the tree service people that trim our trees for us. And she told me that they were working 12 hours a day now because a lot of people are quitting. I asked why they are leaving. She told me it was because it was so hot to work outside. So it looks like if a person’s trade is working outside, and they moved here, now that they see how nice and warm it gets, they are moving to a cooler state. Working inside is ok. The air conditioners work fine. Sometimes cooler at the gym than I like.
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 12, 2023 16:59:48 GMT
Here's what you don't understand because you're a moron. People are coming and going from states all the time. Will the new laws have an effect? Sure. It will be more difficult for illegals to live and move around in Florida. Some will move to friendlier states but at the same time there is an influx of people moving to Florida, population growth in that state is very high. Plus the state isn't completely dependent on illegal black market labor. This whole idea that the state is "failing" is garbage. There is no data to support that idea. It's merely partisan bullshit, wishful thinking on the part of brain dead leftists. Excuses, excuses Lol. Can you prove that Florida is "failing"? The answer is a resounding no. Next. |
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Post by thecitizen on Jul 12, 2023 17:07:05 GMT
Lol. Can you prove that Florida is "failing"? The answer is a resounding no. Next. I told you what is happening now, moron. Can you accept what's happening now? |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 12, 2023 17:08:01 GMT
Lol. Can you prove that Florida is "failing"? The answer is a resounding no. Next. I told you what is happening now, moron. Can you accept what's happening now? Lol. You have absolutely no idea what's happening now. |
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Post by thecitizen on Jul 12, 2023 17:09:31 GMT
I told you what is happening now, moron. Can you accept what's happening now? Lol. You have absolutely no idea what's happening now. I referenced what's happening now. What have you done to support your opinion. Nothing. Just because you beleive what you want to believe does not make it so. Grow up |
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Post by petep on Jul 12, 2023 17:14:06 GMT
Y most every measure, relative to other states, florida has been a success. Especially during the covid years as compared to democrat run states.
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Post by slefty on Jul 12, 2023 17:15:53 GMT
It’s not just someone. It’s happening. But stay in denial. Being in denial is a trait of the right This whole idea that the state is "failing" is garbage. There is no data to support that idea. It's merely partisan bullshit, wishful thinking on the part of brain dead leftists. So a tornado hits and there is no data yet, the tornado did not hit. That makes perfect sense. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 12, 2023 17:19:10 GMT
Lol. You have absolutely no idea what's happening now. I referenced what's happening now. What have you done to support your opinion. Nothing. Just because you beleive what you want to believe does not make it so. Grow up I provided data that shows Florida is doing just fine. You provided a link that says someone moved away from Florida. Oh my. Tons of people move out of Florida on a regular basis, even more people move in you imbecile. You have not provided any evidence that more people are leaving than arriving. You have not provided any evidence of "failing". |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 12, 2023 17:23:57 GMT
This whole idea that the state is "failing" is garbage. There is no data to support that idea. It's merely partisan bullshit, wishful thinking on the part of brain dead leftists. So a tornado hits and there is no data yet, the tornado did not hit. That makes perfect sense. When a tornado hits there is live footage, there is wind and temperature readings, there is plenty of evidence and data that a tornado occurred and how destructive it is right from the get go. Can you provide that type of evidence or is all you got is some neighbor noticed that his other neighbor moved away recently? |
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Post by william on Jul 12, 2023 17:24:07 GMT
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