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Post by Odysseus on Feb 5, 2023 20:38:23 GMT
Most LNF regulars respect laws and standards concerning plagiarism. The standard they adhere to is no more than four paragraphs of any copyrighted article posted in a message.
However we have one LNF regular who routinely breaks copyright laws. In his most recent thread, Archie posted about 40 paragraphs of a copyrighted article. That is TEN TIMES the legal limit.
So, my question is: What, if anything, is the LNF hierarchy going to do to ensure that this place and Probards is not shut down by a lawsuit over repeated copyright violations?
I will note the following guideline from Proboards: So why do this forum's administrators tolerate Archie's repeated violations of third party copyrights?
- A concerned LNF forum member
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Post by Monster Man on Feb 6, 2023 0:31:47 GMT
LOL
Please cite the fair use copyright law on what the “legal limit” is.
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 6, 2023 19:01:18 GMT
Most LNF regulars respect laws and standards concerning plagiarism. The standard they adhere to is no more than four paragraphs of any copyrighted article posted in a message.
However we have one LNF regular who routinely breaks copyright laws. In his most recent thread, Archie posted about 40 paragraphs of a copyrighted article. That is TEN TIMES the legal limit.
So, my question is: What, if anything, is the LNF hierarchy going to do to ensure that this place and Probards is not shut down by a lawsuit over repeated copyright violations?
I will note the following guideline from Proboards: So why do this forum's administrators tolerate Archie's repeated violations of third party copyrights?
- A concerned LNF forum member
Are you suggesting that you want more rules than everybody pretty well agreed to some months back? |
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Post by bama beau on Feb 8, 2023 5:13:44 GMT
Most LNF regulars respect laws and standards concerning plagiarism. The standard they adhere to is no more than four paragraphs of any copyrighted article posted in a message.
However we have one LNF regular who routinely breaks copyright laws. In his most recent thread, Archie posted about 40 paragraphs of a copyrighted article. That is TEN TIMES the legal limit.
So, my question is: What, if anything, is the LNF hierarchy going to do to ensure that this place and Probards is not shut down by a lawsuit over repeated copyright violations?
I will note the following guideline from Proboards: So why do this forum's administrators tolerate Archie's repeated violations of third party copyrights?
- A concerned LNF forum member
Are you suggesting that you want more rules than everybody pretty well agreed to some months back? Either require a citation of some acceptable sort or edit/redact clear violations of legal policies. Whichever is easier. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 8, 2023 12:55:15 GMT
Are you suggesting that you want more rules than everybody pretty well agreed to some months back? Either require a citation of some acceptable sort or edit/redact clear violations of legal policies. Whichever is easier.Said article was linked. |
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Post by bama beau on Feb 8, 2023 14:30:54 GMT
Either require a citation of some acceptable sort or edit/redact clear violations of legal policies. Whichever is easier.Said article was linked. Good to know. |
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Post by Odysseus on Feb 8, 2023 19:59:15 GMT
Either require a citation of some acceptable sort or edit/redact clear violations of legal policies. Whichever is easier.Said article was linked.
I didn't say it wasn't linked. What I said was that it violated copyright law by quoting up to 40 paragraphs of the article.
Hey, if LNF doesn't care about such violations, let us know, so we can deluge the forums with Archie-style copyright violations.
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Post by Monster Man on Feb 9, 2023 3:49:20 GMT
I didn't say it wasn't linked. What I said was that it violated copyright law by quoting up to 40 paragraphs of the article.
Hey, if LNF doesn't care about such violations, let us know, so we can deluge the forums with Archie-style copyright violations.
If you acted more like Archie, it would be an improvement. |
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Post by MojoJojo on Feb 9, 2023 12:48:57 GMT
So why do this forum's administrators tolerate Archie's repeated violations of third party copyrights? - A concerned LNF forum member
Are you REALLY concerned? Seems to me that your almost 30 thousand posts are all ad hominem and "look at me, I need attention" posts coupled with PMs to admin over every little violation or perceived offense. Take care of yourself before worrying about the likes of Archie and his repeated plagiarism. He's been made aware but just can't seem to navigate the intarwebs as well as others. We suffer you, we can suffer Archie. |
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Post by Odysseus on Feb 9, 2023 16:55:07 GMT
So why do this forum's administrators tolerate Archie's repeated violations of third party copyrights? - A concerned LNF forum member
Are you REALLY concerned? Seems to me that your almost 30 thousand posts are all ad hominem and "look at me, I need attention" posts coupled with PMs to admin over every little violation or perceived offense. Take care of yourself before worrying about the likes of Archie and his repeated plagiarism. He's been made aware but just can't seem to navigate the intarwebs as well as others. We suffer you, we can suffer Archie.
Really?
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Post by Odysseus on Feb 9, 2023 18:31:46 GMT
So why do this forum's administrators tolerate Archie's repeated violations of third party copyrights? - A concerned LNF forum member
Are you REALLY concerned? Seems to me that your almost 30 thousand posts are all ad hominem and "look at me, I need attention" posts coupled with PMs to admin over every little violation or perceived offense. Take care of yourself before worrying about the likes of Archie and his repeated plagiarism. He's been made aware but just can't seem to navigate the intarwebs as well as others. We suffer you, we can suffer Archie.
OK:
1) "Seems to me that your almost 30 thousand posts are all ad hominem and "look at me, I need attention" posts": I respectfully submit that the vast majority of my posts are NOT "look at me, I need attention" posts. Rather they are mostly bringing up matters which should be of concern to ALL.
2) "PMs to admin over every little violation or perceived offense". Again, I let a lot of crap here on LNF slide. If you're not up to doing the Admin job perhaps you should step aside?
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 9, 2023 18:37:14 GMT
Are you REALLY concerned? Seems to me that your almost 30 thousand posts are all ad hominem and "look at me, I need attention" posts coupled with PMs to admin over every little violation or perceived offense. Take care of yourself before worrying about the likes of Archie and his repeated plagiarism. He's been made aware but just can't seem to navigate the intarwebs as well as others. We suffer you, we can suffer Archie.
OK:
1) "Seems to me that your almost 30 thousand posts are all ad hominem and "look at me, I need attention" posts": I respectfully submit that the vast majority of my posts are NOT "look at me, I need attention" posts. Rather they are mostly bringing up matters which should be of concern to ALL.
2) "PMs to admin over every little violation or perceived offense". Again, I let a lot of crap here on LNF slide. If you're not up to doing the Admin job perhaps you should step aside?
Not sure anybody is keeping score, but a few other posters get far more crap thrown at them than you do. You might think, "they deserve it," but that's irrelevant. And we had a conversation about the rules a while back and what constitutes a "violation," and based on that conversation and the complaints we receive you're part of a minority of one when it comes to these concerns. |
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Post by Odysseus on Feb 9, 2023 18:52:31 GMT
OK:
1) "Seems to me that your almost 30 thousand posts are all ad hominem and "look at me, I need attention" posts": I respectfully submit that the vast majority of my posts are NOT "look at me, I need attention" posts. Rather they are mostly bringing up matters which should be of concern to ALL.
2) "PMs to admin over every little violation or perceived offense". Again, I let a lot of crap here on LNF slide. If you're not up to doing the Admin job perhaps you should step aside?
Not sure anybody is keeping score, but a few other posters get far more crap thrown at them than you do. You might think, "they deserve it," but that's irrelevant. And we had a conversation about the rules a while back and what constitutes a "violation," and based on that conversation and the complaints we receive you're part of a minority of one when it comes to these concerns.
1) Are an LNF moderator?
2) If you are an LNF moderator, why doesn't your profile mention that?
3) I looked but could not find any "conversation" about the rules. Was that for mods only?
4) What ARE the rules here?
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Post by Monster Man on Feb 9, 2023 18:59:58 GMT
Not sure anybody is keeping score, but a few other posters get far more crap thrown at them than you do. You might think, "they deserve it," but that's irrelevant. And we had a conversation about the rules a while back and what constitutes a "violation," and based on that conversation and the complaints we receive you're part of a minority of one when it comes to these concerns.
1) Are an LNF moderator?
2) If you are an LNF moderator, why doesn't your profile mention that?
3) I looked but could not find any "conversation" about the rules. Was that for mods only?
4) What ARE the rules here?
LOL, I actually agree with you on #3 and #4. Because I was given a demerit and had my post edited because of these rules everyone knows about... but it seems that no, not everyone knows about them. I tried to ask about the rules last summer here, and got nothing. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Feb 9, 2023 21:25:55 GMT
Not sure anybody is keeping score, but a few other posters get far more crap thrown at them than you do. You might think, "they deserve it," but that's irrelevant. And we had a conversation about the rules a while back and what constitutes a "violation," and based on that conversation and the complaints we receive you're part of a minority of one when it comes to these concerns. 1) Are an LNF moderator? I am. I have no idea. No, it was public. Strange...you were certainly around at the time. - No editing of someone else's post when you quote it.
- No physical threats.
- No disparagement of family members.
- Link (or otherwise source) external content.
That's pretty well it. Admin may or may not be persuaded to have this list (or something like it) permanently stickied at the top of the forum. His (or her?) call. |
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Post by jasmine on Feb 10, 2023 0:07:04 GMT
Maybe we should take a re-vote for “Drama Queen of the Year.”  |
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Post by Monster Man on Feb 10, 2023 0:46:51 GMT
Maybe we should take a re-vote for “Drama Queen of the Year.” I probably only beat him by one vote... LOL |
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Post by jasmine on Feb 10, 2023 1:50:08 GMT
Maybe we should take a re-vote for “Drama Queen of the Year.” I probably only beat him by one vote... LOL Actually, that is correct. And if I voted, it would have been a tie. |
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Post by Odysseus on Feb 10, 2023 1:57:33 GMT
I probably only beat him by one vote... LOL Actually, that is correct. And if I voted, it would have been a tie.
Jasmine is the biggest drama tranny of LNF.
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Post by Odysseus on Feb 10, 2023 1:58:50 GMT
I am. I have no idea. No, it was public. Strange...you were certainly around at the time. - No editing of someone else's post when you quote it.
- No physical threats.
- No disparagement of family members.
- Link (or otherwise source) external content.
That's pretty well it. Admin may or may not be persuaded to have this list (or something like it) permanently stickied at the top of the forum. His (or her?) call.
Another LNF forum moderation fail.
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