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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:29:17 GMT
You get called that because you probably are a racist. This is why you are the problem. You have chosen a narrative that you wish to believe and you will not entertain the possibility that your narrative is wrong. Therefore, all that oppose you must have some critical flaw that allows them to be dismissed ad nauseam. You've done it so much that your opinion has become littered with inconsistencies that you can't see. You take radical positions and back them with the thinnest of data. Any probing into your theses that extends beyond the surface demonstrates a tremendous lack of understanding resulting in the conclusion that your entire ideology is based on nothing more than faith in sound bites. Once any reasonable person reaches that conclusion, you lob personal attacks in defense as you cannot defend what you have stated. My reply extends to you, atreyu, cadescove, oobambeua, odysses and a few others. That's easy to say when there's no debate on the table but if you really felt this way you would offer up examples of these inconsistencies and gaps in understanding as they come up in discussion. And there have been many opportunities over the years. I honestly don't remember you participating on LNF, to be honest. I recall your handle, sure, but that's really about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:32:31 GMT
You should delete this and post a proper response. Your use of pronouns created a vagueness that made your statement incoherent. I don't have to delete anything because my response was perfectly accurate. Run with that. It's a good look. Meanwhile the point goes unanswered and people can draw their own conclusions about why. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:38:43 GMT
This is why you are the problem. You have chosen a narrative that you wish to believe and you will not entertain the possibility that your narrative is wrong. Therefore, all that oppose you must have some critical flaw that allows them to be dismissed ad nauseam. You've done it so much that your opinion has become littered with inconsistencies that you can't see. You take radical positions and back them with the thinnest of data. Any probing into your theses that extends beyond the surface demonstrates a tremendous lack of understanding resulting in the conclusion that your entire ideology is based on nothing more than faith in sound bites. Once any reasonable person reaches that conclusion, you lob personal attacks in defense as you cannot defend what you have stated. My reply extends to you, atreyu, cadescove, oobambeua, odysses and a few others. That's easy to say when there's no debate on the table but if you really felt this way you would offer up examples of these inconsistencies and gaps in understanding as they come up in discussion. And there have been many opportunities over the years. I honestly don't remember you participating on LNF, to be honest. I recall your handle, sure, but that's really about it. You are literally doing exactly what I stated above in this thread and the thread about the rape in Norman OK that you started. Every time anyone rejects your wild premises about law enforcement, you flail back and forth hurling demonizations left and right while repeating your thinly supported thesis that all cops are bad, the system is bad and everything cops is bad. I'm going to tell you right now that you are far more bigoted than D-man, Stu or anyone else you called racist. Grab a mirror. Look at it. The most bigoted man you know will be staring right back at you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:40:40 GMT
You get called that because you probably are a racist. This is why you are the problem. You have chosen a narrative that you wish to believe and you will not entertain the possibility that your narrative is wrong. Therefore, all that oppose you must have some critical flaw that allows them to be dismissed ad nauseam. You've done it so much that your opinion has become littered with inconsistencies that you can't see. You take radical positions and back them with the thinnest of data. Any probing into your theses that extends beyond the surface demonstrates a tremendous lack of understanding resulting in the conclusion that your entire ideology is based on nothing more than faith in sound bites. Once any reasonable person reaches that conclusion, you lob personal attacks in defense as you cannot defend what you have stated. My reply extends to you, atreyu, cadescove, oobambeua, odysses and a few others. Yeah, don't make the mistake of quoting and using in a discussion anything ksu says, articles he posts or sources he cites.   |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 23:26:52 GMT
That's easy to say when there's no debate on the table but if you really felt this way you would offer up examples of these inconsistencies and gaps in understanding as they come up in discussion. And there have been many opportunities over the years. I honestly don't remember you participating on LNF, to be honest. I recall your handle, sure, but that's really about it. You are literally doing exactly what I stated above in this thread and the thread about the rape in Norman OK that you started. Every time anyone rejects your wild premises about law enforcement, you flail back and forth hurling demonizations left and right while repeating your thinly supported thesis that all cops are bad, the system is bad and everything cops is bad. Quote me hurling demonizations. Quote me saying all cops are bad. I say you have a reading comprehension problem that matches Paleocon's grasp of the term "anecdotal." |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 23:50:18 GMT
You are literally doing exactly what I stated above in this thread and the thread about the rape in Norman OK that you started. Every time anyone rejects your wild premises about law enforcement, you flail back and forth hurling demonizations left and right while repeating your thinly supported thesis that all cops are bad, the system is bad and everything cops is bad. Quote me hurling demonizations. Quote me saying all cops are bad. I say you have a reading comprehension problem that matches Paleocon's grasp of the term "anecdotal." All right, here is one of each. Demonization: All police are bad: Go ahead and deny it. Make some lame excuse. That's what people do when confronted with a personal short coming. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 23:54:59 GMT
Quote me hurling demonizations. Quote me saying all cops are bad. I say you have a reading comprehension problem that matches Paleocon's grasp of the term "anecdotal." All right, here is one of each. Demonization: All police are bad: Go ahead and deny it. Make some lame excuse. That's what people do when confronted with a personal short coming. That's not "hurling" a demonization. I honestly think that's the answer. If I got called a racist over and over again I might start thinking I was a racist. At the very least I would entertain the idea that I had unconsciously imbibed racist ideas. I'd start looking for examples of "latent" racism in my thinking. And in terms of the "its not a few bad apples" argument, my point is not that the police are bad people. They are just people. Put in new people and you'll get the same result. Why? Because it is the system they are in, and the incentives and rules that go with it, that is the problem. That's why its not a "just a few bad apples" type of problem. Its not a mere matter of punishing individual police officers when they do something crazy. Its that. But its also changing the incentives that make it more likely crazy stuff is tolerated. Thats not a "all cops are bad answer." Its a "the rules are bad" answer. |
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Post by josie on Jun 29, 2020 4:04:55 GMT
I think we all know that what likely happened is Trump saw ppl driving golf carts with his name on them and sent out a TY tweet w/o vetting the video or even turning the sound up. No ones going to tweet out “white power” intentionally when they’re running for re-election, but it’s understandable that the left would want to exploit his mistake...it’s what he deserves for assuming a bunch of elderly supporters from the freaking villages were keeping it classy.
What I find laughable are the people who are overreacting to this mistake and calling the president racist completely ignored the fact that Obama actually invited racist BLM to the White House even though the cofounder prayed to Allah to give her strength not to kill white ppl. Obama had several meeting with Louis Farrakhan the man who calls white ppl devils and his good friend rev Wright who preaches hate for white America. Imagine if Trump is went to an anti black church, had meetings with a man that called blk ppl devils or brought white supremacists to the WH after they prayed to God to give them the strength not to kill blk ppl. Spare me the faux outrage.
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Post by phillip on Jun 29, 2020 5:03:25 GMT
I know a few Trumpers who are now worried about him losing [Previously, they were very confident about him winning]. Seems like a lot of people are jumping off the Trump train and stupid shit like this by Trump will only escalate the loss of supporters [Except the ones who obviously like that kind of stuff].
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Post by phillip on Jun 29, 2020 5:04:05 GMT
I think we all know that what likely happened is Trump saw ppl driving golf carts with his name on them and sent out a TY tweet w/o vetting the video or even turning the sound up. No ones going to tweet out “white power” intentionally when they’re running for re-election, but it’s understandable that the left would want to exploit his mistake...it’s what he deserves for assuming a bunch of elderly supporters from the freaking villages were keeping it classy. What I find laughable are the people who are overreacting to this mistake and calling the president racist completely ignored the fact that Obama actually invited racist BLM to the White House even though the cofounder prayed to Allah to give her strength not to kill white ppl. Obama had several meeting with Louis Farrakhan the man who calls white ppl devils and his good friend rev Wright who preaches hate for white America. Imagine if Trump is went to an anti black church, had meetings with a man that called blk ppl devils or brought white supremacists to the WH after they prayed to God to give them the strength not to kill blk ppl. Spare me the faux outrage.
We wouldn't need to "exploit his mistakes" if he didn't make such easy to avoid ones all the time.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jun 29, 2020 10:41:11 GMT
Hmm.... So I wonder what that crazy bitch Candace Owens thinks about this "White Power" thingie from her hero Trump...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 11:18:53 GMT
I think we all know that what likely happened is Trump saw ppl driving golf carts with his name on them and sent out a TY tweet w/o vetting the video or even turning the sound up. No ones going to tweet out “white power” intentionally when they’re running for re-election, but it’s understandable that the left would want to exploit his mistake...it’s what he deserves for assuming a bunch of elderly supporters from the freaking villages were keeping it classy. What I find laughable are the people who are overreacting to this mistake and calling the president racist completely ignored the fact that Obama actually invited racist BLM to the White House even though the cofounder prayed to Allah to give her strength not to kill white ppl. Obama had several meeting with Louis Farrakhan the man who calls white ppl devils and his good friend rev Wright who preaches hate for white America. Imagine if Trump is went to an anti black church, had meetings with a man that called blk ppl devils or brought white supremacists to the WH after they prayed to God to give them the strength not to kill blk ppl. Spare me the faux outrage. You have quite the memory if you can say with certainty that we (those on LNF) ignored all of those issues. If I am one of those you consider to be "overreacting," then I can also say that your memory is faulty. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 11:30:57 GMT
Ok, but he yelled it three times (see my link above). I don't really care, except you're using the the fact that you thought he said it only once as evidence that he was being sarcastic and that others are overreacting. But it's not true. The link is broken. But once, twice, three times or even ten times makes no difference. It made a difference when you thought the number was one. It was part of your evidence that the guy was sarcastic. Only when I said it was three does the number no longer matter. (FWIW, I think I've fixed the link). But you are right. The number doesn't matter. I said above that I didn't care about the number. I only pointed it out because you used the wrong number as evidence for your position. Here's the thing. I get that the left has historically overplayed their "the opposition is racist" hand. I even agree. I get that the guy is clearly frustrated about something. But that's not the point. I don't care why the guy was mad. The guy is just a guy. He's one of 160 million other guys (give or take) in the country. As you said above, the number doesn't matter. The number of times he said it doesn't matter because the guy doesn't matter. I am not criticizing the guy.I am criticizing the political ignoramus that is turning one of the two major political parties into a side show of clownish buffoonery partially due to his complete political inexperience and stubborn refusal to listen to anybody who has it. I am criticizing the idea that "street smarts" is what winners have while "book learnin'" is for losers. I am criticizing Donald Trump and those that excuse, overlook or even celebrate his foolishness. And I am so very, very tired of that foolishness. Trump not only threw gasoline on the fire of racial tensions in this country with this act, he gave his opponents a nuclear warhead to use against him. And, he gave the opposition more justification for the very criticism you complain about. Of course they're going to call him and his supporters racist now! Politics is big boy time. If you give your opponents a nuke, they're not going to deactivate it out of generosity, they're going to drop it on your head and laugh at the mushroom cloud that envelopes not just you, but everyone around you. And it all happened, and keeps happening, because he makes mistakes the average (heck, the below average) freshman House member would have easily avoided. |
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Post by freonbale on Jun 29, 2020 13:33:27 GMT
The link is broken. But once, twice, three times or even ten times makes no difference. Do you not get the frustration we feel? We are called racist every day. Have been for as long as I can remember. And wrongly so. So what if one guy gets fed up and sarcastically owns it? What else can we do? The left is so out of their mind there is no point in talking to them. Honestly, I think the guy hurling "racist" should have gotten his ass kicked. Maybe then he'll listen. Probably not. But man would it feel good. I don't think you are racist, or rather, I have no idea if you are, or are not. But what I do know is that we all have elements of racism within us called unconscious bias. But the way you talk, you would have us believe you have no biases at all. Since this is impossible, you come off as foolish and ignorant for claiming otherwise. Freon |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 14:05:37 GMT
So, based on this outrage, a fist pointed skyward and the words "BLACK POWER" are also racist, correct? If you're really interested, there's your equality.
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Post by Fiddler on Jun 29, 2020 14:27:03 GMT
So, based on this outrage, a fist pointed skyward and the words "BLACK POWER" are also racist, correct? .
Nope .. Then it may be that your dictionary gets the definition of "POWER" wrong too?
"Supremacy" ... as in "White Supremacy" .. on the other hand denotes superiority ..
As always .. Happy to help educate you .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 14:46:23 GMT
So, based on this outrage, a fist pointed skyward and the words "BLACK POWER" are also racist, correct? .
Nope .. Then it may be that your dictionary gets the definition of "POWER" wrong too?
"Supremacy" ... as in "White Supremacy" .. on the other hand denotes superiority ..
As always .. Happy to help educate you .
Ah, the dear ole' leftist double standard. "Don't you dare do exactly the exact same thing that the black guy does because that's racist!"
Fiddler, look up the word "credibility" so that you can understand what you are lacking.
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Post by Fiddler on Jun 29, 2020 15:13:11 GMT
Nope .. Then it may be that your dictionary gets the definition of "POWER" wrong too?
"Supremacy" ... as in "White Supremacy" .. on the other hand denotes superiority ..
As always .. Happy to help educate you .
Ah, the dear ole' leftist double standard. "Don't you dare do exactly the exact same thing that the black guy does because that's racist!"
Fiddler, look up the word "credibility" so that you can understand what you are lacking.
If you have a different definition for "POWER".. Post it. Your dictionary seems full of contrary definitions..
Otherwise I'll take your complaint for what it is .. Whining after getting smacked down again .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 18:30:41 GMT
Ah, the dear ole' leftist double standard. "Don't you dare do exactly the exact same thing that the black guy does because that's racist!"
Fiddler, look up the word "credibility" so that you can understand what you are lacking.
If you have a different definition for "POWER".. Post it. Your dictionary seems full of contrary definitions..
Otherwise I'll take your complaint for what it is .. Whining after getting smacked down again . I've never received a "smackdown" from you. A little ankle biting perhaps, but nothing more.
Demanding "power" for any specific race is racist. Your obvious allusion to who has the power is rather specious, considering that BLM has said "jump" and the establishment says "how high". It's power gained through violence and extortion, but power nevertheless.
Anything else that I can help you understand?
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Post by Fiddler on Jun 29, 2020 18:49:30 GMT
If you have a different definition for "POWER".. Post it. Your dictionary seems full of contrary definitions..
Otherwise I'll take your complaint for what it is .. Whining after getting smacked down again .
Anything else that I can help you understand?
Yes.. why do you have such a hard time with simple word meanings .. ? Seems after the thorough reaming from TL/Maestro you'd be more attentive ..
And yes I absolutely have 'smacked down' your revisionist BS multiple times.. Not surprised that you've tried to block that from memory.
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