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Post by runswithscissors on Dec 13, 2022 23:04:15 GMT
The stuff you write reminds me of the introduction to an old Twilight Zone show....."too real to be a nightmare, too incredible to be real." If it doesn't elicit that response, it just makes my eyes bleed. But, hell, I make new blood every day. I love to watch liberals when they show us that they are too stupid to respond....they typically just piss all over the forum and run away. See above for example Hilarious. I'm still here. In spite of the blood soaked eyes. I can take it.
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Post by runswithscissors on Dec 13, 2022 23:09:11 GMT
I have to admit that I was wrong in accusing Paleocon of neglecting to claim victim status by omission because he did not accuse Arthur Ashe of being gay. I was wrong. Ashe died from AIDS due to a blood transfusion. I fish slap myself. Fish slap emoji.
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Post by Paleocon on Dec 13, 2022 23:16:31 GMT
This "statues of bad people need to go" thing is, in my view, mistaken. Leave 'em up, but add some context. Orwell's line, quoted by Paleocon, is very appropriate. Distortions of history are easier to propagate without evidence. It would be better if they were moved to be displayed in a place more appropriate. Where the majority of these things were put up, a large amount sponsored by the trashy women of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, it was to remind black people who was in charge. Wow, you just post one lie after the other, don't you, Dinky? Not one of those statues mentioned blacks or slavery. No depictions of anything like that, yet these morons pretend that's why those monuments were erected.
If your narrative was anything but worthless, you wouldn't have to make up these kind of lies.
As I said before, these statues are being removed because the perverted ideology of liberals is inferior and cannot survive unless the symbols of real heroes and their struggles are hidden and destroyed. They know damn well that the Southern fight was not about slavery and they are terrified that statues like these will cause people to find out for themselves.
Never ever trust a liberal. They are brainwashed to hate anything that's not enshrined in their narrative.
They are afraid.....afraid that, if people ever start paying attention, liberalism will be exposed as the filth that it is.
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Post by Paleocon on Dec 13, 2022 23:18:02 GMT
I love to watch liberals when they show us that they are too stupid to respond....they typically just piss all over the forum and run away. See above for example Hilarious. I'm still here. In spite of the blood soaked eyes. I can take it. I'm sorry. I try not to kick a liberal's ass so hard that it makes their eyes bleed, but sometimes restraint in the face of such idiocy is difficult. I'll ease up next time.
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Post by Paleocon on Dec 13, 2022 23:35:35 GMT
So...
Would you be OK with a statue of Adolf Hitler in downtown London?
That is the irony of those who dislike statue removal of seditionists. They claim that history is being removed, but we still teach it, names and all, in our history classes. THAT, is where most Americans learn about these people, not from a statue that will only be seen by a tiny percent of the country during their lives. Freon By acknowledging that these statues will "only be seen by a tiny percent of the country during their lives", you JUST made the case against removal, although calling them seditionists is still a lie. Can't help yourself, can you?
No, what will be taught are the lies being told about these historical figures today, not a balanced, objective rendering. The statues represented an honor reserved for those respected and admired and that's a side of the story that you and your ilk can't tolerate.
What liberals want is for their perverted lies to be told as unchallenged "history" without any evidence that they are lying. Those statues were the evidence.
Removal of these statues is brainwashing, and part of the long game of leftist indoctrination.
As I said, your liberal ideology is inferior and can't stand the scrutiny that comes in a free, open and objective forum; the liberal alternative is censorship, bans, cancellation and, yes, removal of monuments.
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Post by thecitizen on Dec 13, 2022 23:36:40 GMT
Monuments are not history. They don’t represent history. They honor men. Hitler is a part of history. Where is his monument. This "statues of bad people need to go" thing is, in my view, mistaken. Leave 'em up, but add some context. Orwell's line, quoted by Paleocon, is very appropriate. Distortions of history are easier to propagate without evidence. That’s what the history books are for. Not monuments
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Post by runswithscissors on Dec 13, 2022 23:39:42 GMT
Hilarious. I'm still here. In spite of the blood soaked eyes. I can take it. I'm sorry. I try not to kick a liberal's ass so hard that it makes their eyes bleed, but sometimes restraint in the face of such idiocy is difficult. I'll ease up next time. You're not kicking any ass but your own. My eyes bleed solely due to reading your nonsense, not due to any of your physical actions. But you just keep on living in your fictional world. It suits you.
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Post by freonbale on Dec 13, 2022 23:40:51 GMT
That is the irony of those who dislike statue removal of seditionists. They claim that history is being removed, but we still teach it, names and all, in our history classes. THAT, is where most Americans learn about these people, not from a statue that will only be seen by a tiny percent of the country during their lives. Freon By acknowledging that these statues will "only be seen by a tiny percent of the country during their lives", you JUST made the case against removal, although calling them seditionists is still a lie. Can't help yourself, can you?
No, what will be taught are the lies being told about these historical figures today, not a balanced, objective rendering. The statues represented an honor reserved for those respected and admired and that's a side of the story that you and your ilk can't tolerate.
What liberals want is for their perverted lies to be told as unchallenged "history" without any evidence that they are lying. Those statues were the evidence.
Removal of these statues is brainwashing, and part of the long game of leftist indoctrination.
As I said, your liberal ideology is inferior and can't stand the scrutiny that comes in a free, open and objective forum; the liberal alternative is censorship, bans, cancellation and, yes, removal of monuments.
But to most Americans, the statues as heroes is the lie. So we both see lies. And there are more of us than you. So decision made. Deal with it. Freon
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Post by Odysseus on Dec 14, 2022 0:39:22 GMT
This "statues of bad people need to go" thing is, in my view, mistaken. Leave 'em up, but add some context. Orwell's line, quoted by Paleocon, is very appropriate. Distortions of history are easier to propagate without evidence. That’s what the history books are for. Not monuments
I basically concur. A bronze statue of some historic figure tends to legitimize whatever nonsense they were flinging about. Now, Robert E. Lee, by all accounts, was an honorable man, but had the misfortune of mistaking his allegience to his region as a legitimate allegience to his nation. Slavery of course was an atrocity for which the whole United States has had to work to rectify for the past 150 years. And we're still not done with that.
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Post by limey² on Dec 14, 2022 9:03:41 GMT
This "statues of bad people need to go" thing is, in my view, mistaken. Leave 'em up, but add some context. Orwell's line, quoted by Paleocon, is very appropriate. Distortions of history are easier to propagate without evidence. That’s what the history books are for. Not monuments Towns, cities, landscapes ARE history books. We live in our history. I know America hasn't got much yet, but if you keep tearing everything down and building anew, how are you going to feel rooted in and nurtured by your past?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 9:08:21 GMT
That’s what the history books are for. Not monuments Towns, cities, landscapes ARE history books. We live in our history. I know America hasn't got much yet, but if you keep tearing everything down and building anew, how are you going to feel rooted in and nurtured by your past? Would you feel the same way if it was a statue of hitler?
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Post by Odysseus on Dec 14, 2022 9:40:03 GMT
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Post by limey² on Dec 14, 2022 12:53:34 GMT
Towns, cities, landscapes ARE history books. We live in our history. I know America hasn't got much yet, but if you keep tearing everything down and building anew, how are you going to feel rooted in and nurtured by your past? Would you feel the same way if it was a statue of hitler? Dealt with above.
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Post by thecitizen on Dec 14, 2022 14:10:04 GMT
That’s what the history books are for. Not monuments Towns, cities, landscapes ARE history books. We live in our history. I know America hasn't got much yet, but if you keep tearing everything down and building anew, how are you going to feel rooted in and nurtured by your past? No... I don't think so. Confederate statues nurture no one. How's that Hitler statue across the pond nurturing you?
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Post by thor on Dec 14, 2022 14:58:43 GMT
It would be better if they were moved to be displayed in a place more appropriate. Where the majority of these things were put up, a large amount sponsored by the trashy women of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, it was to remind black people who was in charge. Wow, you just post one lie after the other, don't you, Dinky? Not one of those statues mentioned blacks or slavery. No depictions of anything like that, yet these morons pretend that's why those monuments were erected.
If your narrative was anything but worthless, you wouldn't have to make up these kind of lies.
As I said before, these statues are being removed because the perverted ideology of liberals is inferior and cannot survive unless the symbols of real heroes and their struggles are hidden and destroyed. They know damn well that the Southern fight was not about slavery and they are terrified that statues like these will cause people to find out for themselves.
Never ever trust a liberal. They are brainwashed to hate anything that's not enshrined in their narrative.
They are afraid.....afraid that, if people ever start paying attention, liberalism will be exposed as the filth that it is.
Morally degenerate filth sez wut?
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Post by thor on Dec 14, 2022 15:00:49 GMT
Hilarious. I'm still here. In spite of the blood soaked eyes. I can take it. I'm sorry. I try not to kick a liberal's ass so hard that it makes their eyes bleed, but sometimes restraint in the face of such idiocy is difficult. I'll ease up next time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 15:18:41 GMT
I'm sorry. I try not to kick a liberal's ass so hard that it makes their eyes bleed, but sometimes restraint in the face of such idiocy is difficult. I'll ease up next time. Indeed, even without arms or legs pale con is still bragging about his "win". Pale con you are the fucking moron other fucking morons are ashamed to be associated with.
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Post by thor on Dec 14, 2022 15:38:48 GMT
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Post by CadesCove on Dec 14, 2022 16:12:25 GMT
Perfect.
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Post by Paleocon on Dec 14, 2022 18:55:35 GMT
By acknowledging that these statues will "only be seen by a tiny percent of the country during their lives", you JUST made the case against removal, although calling them seditionists is still a lie. Can't help yourself, can you?
No, what will be taught are the lies being told about these historical figures today, not a balanced, objective rendering. The statues represented an honor reserved for those respected and admired and that's a side of the story that you and your ilk can't tolerate.
What liberals want is for their perverted lies to be told as unchallenged "history" without any evidence that they are lying. Those statues were the evidence.
Removal of these statues is brainwashing, and part of the long game of leftist indoctrination.
As I said, your liberal ideology is inferior and can't stand the scrutiny that comes in a free, open and objective forum; the liberal alternative is censorship, bans, cancellation and, yes, removal of monuments.
But to most Americans, the statues as heroes is the lie. So we both see lies. And there are more of us than you. So decision made. Deal with it. Freon So, we must defer to the majority that is too stupid, partisan or dishonest to acknowledge someone else's heroes. This is why the Founders hated democracy and predicted its downfall.
The removal of the statues was no intellectual exercise; it was a group of animals instinctively hating and destroying what they don't understand and don't want to. Any claim of tolerance and inclusion from these censors is the real lie.
Do you really want to be a part of this majority herd of animals, Freon?
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