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Post by freonbale on Sept 1, 2020 17:34:22 GMT
Too often in this forum, you Trumpers (predominately, but not exclusively) post some fact you read somewhere, and assume it is information. This incorrect interpretation of data (facts) leads to some pretty crazy conclusions. Dman's incorrect conclusion that other ethnicities are inferior to his, for instance. I thought it worth showing the difference between data and information. www.diffen.com/difference/Data_vs_Information#:~:text=Data%20are%20simply%20facts%20or,Information%20provides%20context%20for%20data When you train in science, one of the toughest skills is how to interpret data into information. Since data is most often numbers, statistics are typically used to interpret them, and depending on the bias of the interpreter, different conclusions are possible. To read other's conclusions, without understanding how they came to them, is a very easy way to be misled. Freon |
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Post by petep on Sept 1, 2020 17:39:03 GMT
I’d agree with this. I think many mix up racism vs profiling or bias.
Blacks in Bermuda put much of white America to shame.
Blacks in many of our inner cities are to a great degree a cultural embarrassment to their peers.
White sounthern racist Hicks are an embarrassment to most whites.
The challenge is what percent fit a profile and at what point do stereotypes become understandable, whether good or bad.
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Post by freonbale on Sept 1, 2020 17:49:18 GMT
I’d agree with this. I think many mix up racism vs profiling or bias. Blacks in Bermuda put much of white America to shame. Blacks in many of our inner cities are to a great degree a cultural embarrassment to their peers. White sounthern racist Hicks are an embarrassment to most whites. The challenge is what percent fit a profile and at what point do stereotypes become understandable, whether good or bad. The question is not at what point do stereotypes become understandable, it is why stereotype at all. What is intended with that 'information'? The answer is nothing good. The takeaway, to me, is to always scrutinize your 'information' source. Never assume that the information you are getting is accurate. Make sure to verify it somewhere that is trustworthy. I, unfortunately, have no guidance on determining whether a site is trustworthy or not. Although for me, the more sources are cited, the higher the likelihood that transparency equals trust. Freon |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 1, 2020 18:04:18 GMT
Remember for the last month or so how you've been saying that "you get two months immunity" after recovering from Covid? And that immunity from a hypothetical covid vaccine would be "indefinite"? Would that be data or information that you had gathered? Because I can't find anything to back that bunk up with. And you won't provide because you fear it would expose you and your high profile work in ending the coronavirus scourge. However, here's some information that I find more encouraging than your made-up bullshit. www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/health/coronavirus-immunity-antibodies.html |
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Post by freonbale on Sept 1, 2020 18:31:15 GMT
Remember for the last month or so how you've been saying that "you get two months immunity" after recovering from Covid? And that immunity from a hypothetical covid vaccine would be "indefinite"? Would that be data or information that you had gathered? Because I can't find anything to back that bunk up with. And you won't provide because you fear it would expose you and your high profile work in ending the coronavirus scourge. However, here's some information that I find more encouraging than your made-up bullshit. www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/health/coronavirus-immunity-antibodies.htmlThat is a totally fair assessment. I can claim that it is information, but you have no way of knowing the veracity of my statement. It is a matter of trust. Do I typically lie in here, or exaggerate? When I give my word, do I keep it? You have to decide. From my perspective, because of what I do for a living, I have access to information you do not. If I can share it, and give you more incite into our current situation, I am happy to do so. But you are not obligated to believe me. I have said it before, that I encourage and applaud your skepticism, even if it means I am not believed. Freon |
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