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Post by demos on Aug 31, 2020 15:58:28 GMT
SourceIt wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for the Taliban to do something this stupid, and as mentioned, it could be a Taliban faction operating on its own. What concerns me is that this allegation comes as we're drawing down out troops in Afghanistan with a goal of full withdrawal. I'm waiting for this to be used as an excuse to remain in Afghanistan.
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Post by phillip on Aug 31, 2020 16:06:07 GMT
I can't believe they would do that. They seemed like such sweet gentlemen. I mean, we liked them enough to fund and give many of their future members tons of deadly weapons and guerilla tactics training back in the 80s after all.
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Post by demos on Aug 31, 2020 16:15:08 GMT
I can't believe they would do that. They seemed like such sweet gentlemen. I mean, w e liked them enough to fund and give many of their future members tons of deadly weapons and guerilla tactics training back in the 80s after all. Actually, they were fighting against the warlords - I mean, mujahideen - that we armed. They received support from Pakistan, who initially saw them as stabilizing influence in Western Afghanistan to protect truck traffic, and eventually Saudi Arabia. Strategically, this would be a dumb thing to do. There are factions who are opposed to the deal with the US though, so its possible one of those factions is a fly in the soup. We've been there 19 years now. We haven't solved any of Afghanistan's problems, particularly corruption. The only viable solution at this point is a political one involving the Taliban, and we might as well accept that this will mean they'll eventually take over the country.
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Post by phillip on Aug 31, 2020 17:36:40 GMT
I can't believe they would do that. They seemed like such sweet gentlemen. I mean, w e liked them enough to fund and give many of their future members tons of deadly weapons and guerilla tactics training back in the 80s after all. Actually, they were fighting against the warlords - I mean, mujahideen - that we armed. They received support from Pakistan, who initially saw them as stabilizing influence in Western Afghanistan to protect truck traffic, and eventually Saudi Arabia. Strategically, this would be a dumb thing to do. There are factions who are opposed to the deal with the US though, so its possible one of those factions is a fly in the soup. We've been there 19 years now. We haven't solved any of Afghanistan's problems, particularly corruption. The only viable solution at this point is a political one involving the Taliban, and we might as well accept that this will mean they'll eventually take over the country.
Mujahideen commanders like future Taliban leader Mohammed Omar? It's often interconnected. Many of our problems over the past few decades were blindly supporting any cause in order to combat a dying Soviet Union in the 70s and 80s.
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Post by demos on Aug 31, 2020 18:02:47 GMT
Mujahideen commanders like future Taliban leader Mohammed Omar?
I don't think his group received funding (from us at any rate; our funding supported Hekmatyar who they broke off from); he seems to have been more connected to the Afghan Arabs (Azzam, bin Laden, etc.). If the Taliban had not allowed AQ to set up shop in their territory, we likely would never have had a problem with them (at least in terms of national security since they have narrow interests). As for AQ, we need look no further than Saudi Arabia and our own ME policies regarding that problem.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 31, 2020 20:17:05 GMT
wE neEd a sUrGe of TroOps!!
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Post by demos on Aug 31, 2020 20:20:57 GMT
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