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Post by jasmine on Oct 9, 2022 22:21:14 GMT
I teach Sunday School class for grades 6 through 8. I used to teach high schoolers and primary school kids with no problem. I was pretty much the "cool aunty" that the kids enjoyed being around.
I love these middle schoolers, but a couple of the boys are pretty unruly and inattentive. I always have to get them back on track, and it's frustrating because the lessons get thrown off.
I recently started a point system where each student gets points for certain things, including good behavior. But it doesnt have much of an effect.
I have solicited advice from my Mom, Scott and others in my church. But I'm curious if any of you might have any input. Thank you in advance! π
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Post by Mercy for All on Oct 10, 2022 1:50:31 GMT
I teach Sunday School class for grades 6 through 8. I used to teach high schoolers and primary school kids with no problem. I was pretty much the "cool aunty" that the kids enjoyed being around. I love these middle schoolers, but a couple of the boys are pretty unruly and inattentive. I always have to get them back on track, and it's frustrating because the lessons get thrown off. I recently started a point system where each student gets points for certain things, including good behavior. But it doesnt have much of an effect. I have solicited advice from my Mom, Scott and others in my church. But I'm curious if any of you might have any input. Thank you in advance! π Grade 6-8 boys tend to respond better to men as leaders. They want to feel like it's okay to be unique and maybe even a little rebellious. They want to be able to create a special name for the class (even if it's odd or weird). They want to feel like they have a little bit of control or direction, not necessarily over content but over how things are done. Probably couldn't do this today, but I had one class in which we had the class decide what the "rules" were going to be. They created a lot tougher rules than we did. We collaborated and decided that if someone broke a rule, they had to sit in the "loser's chair" in the middle of the room, and everyone got to point at them. They took great delight in taking their turns in that chair. That probably wouldn't work long-term, but they had a lot of fun that day. Later on, I was part of a program that had a main lesson, and then everyone broke into small groups. I had the Grade 6-8 boys. I told them to pick a name for the group, but nobody outside the group got to know the name. They picked "Gloop Group." It was like a secret club to them. Also, most of the other groups sat cross legged in a circle. So we lay on our stomachs with our heads in the middle, just to be different. They liked that too. Sunday School can feel pretty lame for that age group, so doing different things (especially things that "the other kids don't do") is important to them, I think.
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Post by jasmine on Oct 10, 2022 5:12:31 GMT
Thank you so much for your insights, Mercy. You brought up a lot of good points. I guess I'm just going to have to be creative in getting the boys more engaged. My "rewards challenge" went well for about a week.
Did you ever have to discipline a student? Our Sunday School supervisor says I can always banish a troublemaker to the S.S. office, but I want to avoid tjat if possible. Another suggestion is to talk to their parents/guardians, but I wonder if the kids will resent me if I get them into trouble.
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Post by Mercy for All on Oct 10, 2022 14:40:47 GMT
Thank you so much for your insights, Mercy. You brought up a lot of good points. I guess I'm just going to have to be creative in getting the boys more engaged. My "rewards challenge" went well for about a week. Did you ever have to discipline a student? Our Sunday School supervisor says I can always banish a troublemaker to the S.S. office, but I want to avoid tjat if possible. Another suggestion is to talk to their parents/guardians, but I wonder if the kids will resent me if I get them into trouble. Here's the thing. You have to kick out somebody if they are too unruly. Otherwise the behaviour becomes acceptable to everyone else and sets the tone. But here's how: you have to communicate to them that you want them to be in the class. But for them to be part of the class, they have to live up to the behaviour expectations. I would give three strikes (and communicate, "you're on your last strike"). If it gets to that point, their parents have to come get him. The second time that happens, he has to skip a week. But I would be communicating it like this, "I really want you in this class, but because you've consistently disrupted the class, making other kids not be able to enjoy the class, you're going to have to take a week off. But I look forward to having you back in the class the following week." Here's another thing...outside the class context, have a conversation with them about how life is going. We had a very large kid in our junior high group almost destroy a smaller by running him over...more than once. It got to the point that he had to take a week off. We had a private conversation in which he broke down and started crying. He had had a really rough couple of weeks at school, struggling with his academics, sent to the principal's office, etc. There are always reasons for the behaviour.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 21:04:08 GMT
Why do you people need Sunday schools for? Do you know what We do on Sundays? Sports! Parents playing with their kids. That sort of thing.
If people need remedial classes there is enough time during the week to do it, they need their weekends to relax, and enjoy their youth! Oh boy, am I glad I am not an American sometimes, or even a Canadian apparently.
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Post by jasmine on Oct 10, 2022 21:26:57 GMT
Thanks again for your input and wisdom, Mercy. I hope it never reaches the point where I have to suspend a student. I know full well that some kids only attend because their parents/guardians make them attend. They'd rather be home playing video games or watching TV.
I think this is an awkward time for kids of this age. They're not little children, but they're not in high school, either. It was a lot easier when I taught high school.
I sincerely appreciate you. π
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 22:06:37 GMT
Thanks again for your input and wisdom, Mercy. I hope it never reaches the point where I have to suspend a student. I know full well that some kids only attend because their parents/guardians make them attend. They'd rather be home playing video games or watching TV. I think this is an awkward time for kids of this age. They're not little children, but they're not in high school, either. It was a lot easier when I taught high school. I sincerely appreciate you. π Frankly, I have a hard time figuring out what you could be teaching kids. Religion? Are you kidding me? You can't even masquerade as a decent christian yourself and you want to teach that to kids? What are you going to teach them, how to betray the principles of Jesus himself? Leave them kids alone. You'll do them a favor.
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Post by Abe on Oct 12, 2022 12:35:05 GMT
If it's a mandatory thing that is graded, flunk them all and let them explain it to their parents. If it's not mandatory or graded, throw them out and again let them explain that to their parents. You're there to teach, not babysit.
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Post by Odysseus on Oct 14, 2022 3:44:04 GMT
The big question here should be, "How to get RWNJ's to behave..."
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Post by thor on Oct 14, 2022 16:35:33 GMT
I teach Sunday School class for grades 6 through 8. I used to teach high schoolers and primary school kids with no problem. I was pretty much the "cool aunty" that the kids enjoyed being around. I love these middle schoolers, but a couple of the boys are pretty unruly and inattentive. I always have to get them back on track, and it's frustrating because the lessons get thrown off. I recently started a point system where each student gets points for certain things, including good behavior. But it doesnt have much of an effect. I have solicited advice from my Mom, Scott and others in my church. But I'm curious if any of you might have any input. Thank you in advance! π Christianity, like all Abrahamic religions, is patriarchal. If your pupils start off with the idea that women are responsible for man's fall, you are already at a disadvantage in asserting authority.
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 20, 2022 2:35:27 GMT
I teach Sunday School class for grades 6 through 8. I used to teach high schoolers and primary school kids with no problem. I was pretty much the "cool aunty" that the kids enjoyed being around. I love these middle schoolers, but a couple of the boys are pretty unruly and inattentive. I always have to get them back on track, and it's frustrating because the lessons get thrown off. I recently started a point system where each student gets points for certain things, including good behavior. But it doesnt have much of an effect. I have solicited advice from my Mom, Scott and others in my church. But I'm curious if any of you might have any input. Thank you in advance! π Shoot them
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Post by Odysseus on Oct 20, 2022 3:35:25 GMT
I feel so sorry for any kids unfortunate enough to fall under Jasmine's control, even if only for a few hours on Sundays.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2022 7:06:11 GMT
I feel so sorry for any kids unfortunate enough to fall under Jasmine's control, even if only for a few hours on Sundays. Well, in France people aren't allowed to make kids do anything even resembling work on Sundays, that's the law. So that kind of child abuse would never happen.
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