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Post by Mercy for All on Aug 26, 2022 19:28:58 GMT
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Post by bama beau on Sept 19, 2022 3:30:28 GMT
Here's the thing with faith. Faith is great almost all of the time, until it isn't, which is too often at the worst time when faith could fail. So what, one may ask, is better than faith? One may also ask, what yields better results than faith? Does anything advance the cause and the survival of humanity more than faith? Unless that faith is a faith in science and the humanities? *Ideosyncracies be damned. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Sept 19, 2022 4:19:12 GMT
Here's the thing with faith. Faith is great almost all of the time, until it isn't, which is too often at the worst time when faith could fail. So what, one may ask, is better than faith? One may also ask, what yields better results than faith? Does anything advance the cause and the survival of humanity more than faith? Unless that faith is a faith in science and the humanities? *Ideosyncracies be damned.What do you mean by “faith”? Blind belief? Because that’s the whole point. That’s not what faith means. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 5:23:12 GMT
Here's the thing with faith. Faith is great almost all of the time, until it isn't, which is too often at the worst time when faith could fail. So what, one may ask, is better than faith? One may also ask, what yields better results than faith? Does anything advance the cause and the survival of humanity more than faith? Unless that faith is a faith in science and the humanities? *Ideosyncracies be damned.What do you mean by “faith”? Blind belief? Because that’s the whole point. That’s not what faith means. Who put you in charge of deciding what "faith" means? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 5:27:13 GMT
There is an expression: "Leap of faith". That clearly implies that "faith" is not based on reason and prudence but is kind of a bet. So when I see people desperately trying to redefine what "faith" means to make them appear rational when nothing could be further from the truth... Well, suffice it to say... I find that entertaining...
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Post by bama beau on Sept 19, 2022 12:02:48 GMT
What do you mean by “faith”? Blind belief? Because that’s the whole point. That’s not what faith means. Who put you in charge of deciding what "faith" means? Nobody. He merely asked a question. |
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Post by bama beau on Sept 19, 2022 12:43:36 GMT
Here's the thing with faith. Faith is great almost all of the time, until it isn't, which is too often at the worst time when faith could fail. So what, one may ask, is better than faith? One may also ask, what yields better results than faith? Does anything advance the cause and the survival of humanity more than faith? Unless that faith is a faith in science and the humanities? *Ideosyncracies be damned.What do you mean by “faith”? Blind belief? Because that’s the whole point. That’s not what faith means. The point being when does faith step in? When, where and why then? Faith is fine. I have faith. But faith alone is folly. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Sept 19, 2022 13:25:20 GMT
What do you mean by “faith”? Blind belief? Because that’s the whole point. That’s not what faith means. The point being when does faith step in? When, where and why then? Faith is fine. I have faith. But faith alone is folly. Faith is the starting point in any enterprise. |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 19, 2022 15:34:09 GMT
There is an expression: "Leap of faith". That clearly implies that "faith" is not based on reason and prudence but is kind of a bet. So when I see people desperately trying to redefine what "faith" means to make them appear rational when nothing could be further from the truth... Well, suffice it to say... I find that entertaining... I can always count on you to come shit all over just about any discussion in the Religion section. You never disappoint. I would call you a bigot again... but you already know what you are. |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 19, 2022 15:37:53 GMT
Here's the thing with faith. Faith is great almost all of the time, until it isn't, which is too often at the worst time when faith could fail. So what, one may ask, is better than faith? One may also ask, what yields better results than faith? Does anything advance the cause and the survival of humanity more than faith? Unless that faith is a faith in science and the humanities? *Ideosyncracies be damned.What do you mean by “faith”? Blind belief? Because that’s the whole point. That’s not what faith means. I often describe faith this way when explaining to others what faith means as a Christian: If I show you I have a quarter, then I place the quarter behind my back and return with a closed fist and tell you I have a quarter in my hand. That is the kind of faith we have. We know there was a quarter, you have some trust in me, but you can't see that quarter anymore and you can't see it in my hand, you are asked to have faith in me that I am telling you it is in my hand. Not a perfect analogy, but one to illustrate to your point, it is not some blind faith. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 15:56:42 GMT
What do you mean by “faith”? Blind belief? Because that’s the whole point. That’s not what faith means. I often describe faith this way when explaining to others what faith means as a Christian: If I show you I have a quarter, then I place the quarter behind my back and return with a closed fist and tell you I have a quarter in my hand. That is the kind of faith we have. We know there was a quarter, you have some trust in me, but you can't see that quarter anymore and you can't see it in my hand, you are asked to have faith in me that I am telling you it is in my hand. Not a perfect analogy, but one to illustrate to your point, it is not some blind faith. Yeah, if you are Christian, my ass is the pope.  |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 19, 2022 17:01:57 GMT
I often describe faith this way when explaining to others what faith means as a Christian: If I show you I have a quarter, then I place the quarter behind my back and return with a closed fist and tell you I have a quarter in my hand. That is the kind of faith we have. We know there was a quarter, you have some trust in me, but you can't see that quarter anymore and you can't see it in my hand, you are asked to have faith in me that I am telling you it is in my hand. Not a perfect analogy, but one to illustrate to your point, it is not some blind faith. Yeah, if you are Christian, my ass is the pope. Oh no, some random guy on the internet who claims to live in France and is a bigot is judging me. What ever will I do now. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 20:09:14 GMT
Yeah, if you are Christian, my ass is the pope. Oh no, some random guy on the internet who claims to live in France and is a bigot is judging me. What ever will I do now. If the real Jesus was alive and anywhere near you, he would tear your arms off for betraying his message. Lucky for you that you don't believe in the Christian god any more than I do (and I don't believe in it at all) otherwise you'd be haunted by the punishment that awaits you after death. People who like you pretend to be Christians are much happier than if they believed. A pretender is a lot worse than "a bigot". In fact, you are a closeted anti-Christian bigot. If the genuine Christians around you (assuming there are any, which is unlikely) knew what you thought of their religion, they would curse the day they met you. |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 19, 2022 20:32:52 GMT
Oh no, some random guy on the internet who claims to live in France and is a bigot is judging me. What ever will I do now. If the real Jesus was alive and anywhere near you, he would tear your arms off for betraying his message. Lucky for you that you don't believe in the Christian god any more than I do (and I don't believe in it at all) otherwise you'd be haunted by the punishment that awaits you after death. People who like you pretend to be Christians are much happier than if they believed. A pretender is a lot worse than "a bigot". In fact, you are a closeted anti-Christian bigot. If the genuine Christians around you (assuming there are any, which is unlikely) knew what you thought of their religion, they would curse the day they met you. The real Jesus? You have about as much interest in knowing and understanding who Jesus is as you do in any semblance of having decorum here. Its just a petty thing to try to attack people... because you are a bigot. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 20:37:00 GMT
If the real Jesus was alive and anywhere near you, he would tear your arms off for betraying his message. Lucky for you that you don't believe in the Christian god any more than I do (and I don't believe in it at all) otherwise you'd be haunted by the punishment that awaits you after death. People who like you pretend to be Christians are much happier than if they believed. A pretender is a lot worse than "a bigot". In fact, you are a closeted anti-Christian bigot. If the genuine Christians around you (assuming there are any, which is unlikely) knew what you thought of their religion, they would curse the day they met you. ... You have about as much interest in knowing and understanding who Jesus is as you do in any semblance of having decorum here. .... If you weren't such a lying hypocrite you would admit that that is exactly what you're up to. In fact it's your way of confessing who you are while pretending to speak of someone else, in psychology it's called projecting. |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 19, 2022 20:50:25 GMT
... You have about as much interest in knowing and understanding who Jesus is as you do in any semblance of having decorum here. .... If you weren't such a lying hypocrite you would admit that that is exactly what you're up to. In fact it's your way of confessing who you are while pretending to speak of someone else, in psychology it's called projecting. Funny. Every time I ask you to tell me what lie... you run like a coward. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 20:52:08 GMT
If you weren't such a lying hypocrite you would admit that that is exactly what you're up to. In fact it's your way of confessing who you are while pretending to speak of someone else, in psychology it's called projecting. Funny. Every time I ask you to tell me what lie... you run like a coward. You're lying about being a Christian, just as you're lying about pretty much everything else you pretend to care about. |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 19, 2022 20:59:27 GMT
Funny. Every time I ask you to tell me what lie... you run like a coward. You're lying about being a Christian, just as you're lying about pretty much everything else you pretend to care about. What makes someone a Christian? You offer nothing but vague accusations here... stop running away like a coward next time you think I lied about something and explain yourself. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 21:07:41 GMT
You're lying about being a Christian, just as you're lying about pretty much everything else you pretend to care about. What makes someone a Christian? You offer nothing but vague accusations here... stop running away like a coward next time you think I lied about something and explain yourself. Just as I said. You are a liar, it's obvious that you don't believe in the Christian god any more than rabbit believes in taking care of the fetuses he's so "concerned about", once they are born. You people are a bunch of lying hypocrites who use these things as means of political influence, just as a moronic hick will use a stradivarius to swat a mosquito. |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 19, 2022 21:09:52 GMT
What makes someone a Christian? You offer nothing but vague accusations here... stop running away like a coward next time you think I lied about something and explain yourself. Just as I said. You are a liar, it's obvious that you don't believe in the Christian god any more than rabbit believes in taking care of the fetuses he's so "concerned about", once they are born. You people are a bunch of lying hypocrites who use these things as means of political influence, just as a moronic hick will use a stradivarius to swat a mosquito. Ah yes... it is so obvious that you can't articulate why or how or answer simple questions. You are an empty suit. |
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