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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 15:33:58 GMT
Then you perpetuate the inaccurate stereotype, and act based on that inaccuracy.
Which means you WANT to believe it.
You are wrong, btw. You are not more patriotic or loyal to this country than anyone else, and the feeling that you are is self-glorifying for the purpose of justifying your anti-equality behaviors.
By demonizing 'liberals' (as you inaccurately see them), anything Trump does is suddenly ok.
But if you are wrong, then your entire outlook is flawed, and I doubt that is something you want to face.
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I'm not demonizing or stereotyping liberals at all, nor is what I said inaccurate in any way. Liberals want to transform this country into what they envision as a "democratic socialist utopia" and will stop at nothing to achieve that goal. Would you have us believe that such a dastardly transformation is actually "love"? Claiming "love of country" by a liberal is truly Orwellian. It's doublespeak. For today's left "love" really means hate.
And I didn't mention Trump in my post, but you had to go there anyway, didn't you? Trump is your side's obsession, not mine.
And then you falsely, laughably and stereotypically accuse me of "anti-equality behaviors" in the same post where you decry stereotyping! You just can't make this stuff up.
You claim stereotyping and claim inaccuracy in the OP list. Let's see you make that case line by line.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 15:37:00 GMT
, as we saw in John McCain, military service doesn't always result in a love of America's ideals....nor measurable intelligence.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 15:43:51 GMT
Then you perpetuate the inaccurate stereotype, and act based on that inaccuracy.
Which means you WANT to believe it.
You are wrong, btw. You are not more patriotic or loyal to this country than anyone else, and the feeling that you are is self-glorifying for the purpose of justifying your anti-equality behaviors.
By demonizing 'liberals' (as you inaccurately see them), anything Trump does is suddenly ok.
But if you are wrong, then your entire outlook is flawed, and I doubt that is something you want to face.
Freon
I'm not demonizing or stereotyping liberals at all, nor is what I said inaccurate in any way. Liberals want to transform this country into what they envision as a "democratic socialist utopia" and will stop at nothing to achieve that goal. Would you have us believe that such a dastardly transformation is actually "love"? Claiming "love of country" by a liberal is truly Orwellian. It's doublespeak. For today's left "love" really means hate.
And I didn't mention Trump in my post, but you had to go there anyway, didn't you? Trump is your side's obsession, not mine.
And then you falsely, laughably and stereotypically accuse me of "anti-equality behaviors" in the same post where you decry stereotyping! You just can't make this stuff up.
You claim stereotyping and claim inaccuracy in the OP list. Let's see you make that case line by line.
Will you vote for Trump?
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Post by thor on Aug 26, 2020 18:03:17 GMT
Abe, try, just for a brief moment, to accept the fact that we love this country just as much as you do.
Try to accept that we want this country strong, successful and rich in our traditions and values. Just like you do.
Do you really believe, I mean really, really believe those extreme points of view would come from people who love this country so much?
There are some who likely do, of course. This is a mishmash of people, and there will always be kooks.
But the vast majority of us would find your list inaccurate, and more likely, offensive.
But if you are being told we are all like that, then I cannot fault you for being so upset. I would be too. Only problem is that it's a lie.
Not one liberal in this forum would agree with those points of view. So why would you think the majority of liberals would? Answer? Your news told you to. And you believe them.
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Sorry, Freon, but I don't accept this "we love America, too!!!" narrative as fact. Based on the actions of today's liberals, I do not believe we can accept the premise that liberals love this country at all, much less as much as we do.
Liberals are like the chronically abusive husband, claiming love and affection right before knocking his wife's teeth out.
Or more analogous would to look at a liberal as a little boy, whose mother just found the kitchen trashed and the garage on fire, glancing up with those big doe eyes and saying "Mommy, I love you". He doesn't really mean it, he's just trying to distract her from the mess that he made.
Perhaps some of the list above was exaggerated or reflect the fringe as you claim, but the basic attitudes of today's liberals are accurately portrayed in the list. Does that mean that all of you fit that list? Perhaps not, but you enable those who do.
You claim that liberals here would not agree with those points as written, but based on the posts of those same liberals on LNF, they do agree with the underlying ideas and sentiments expressed in that list.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 18:24:51 GMT
I read each one as well and I thought all were pretty accurate with the exception of 18. But you are not liberal in your beliefs, so how would you know?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 18:25:17 GMT
Sorry, Freon, but I don't accept this "we love America, too!!!" narrative as fact. Based on the actions of today's liberals, I do not believe we can accept the premise that liberals love this country at all, much less as much as we do.
Liberals are like the chronically abusive husband, claiming love and affection right before knocking his wife's teeth out.
Or more analogous would to look at a liberal as a little boy, whose mother just found the kitchen trashed and the garage on fire, glancing up with those big doe eyes and saying "Mommy, I love you". He doesn't really mean it, he's just trying to distract her from the mess that he made.
Perhaps some of the list above was exaggerated or reflect the fringe as you claim, but the basic attitudes of today's liberals are accurately portrayed in the list. Does that mean that all of you fit that list? Perhaps not, but you enable those who do.
You claim that liberals here would not agree with those points as written, but based on the posts of those same liberals on LNF, they do agree with the underlying ideas and sentiments expressed in that list.
This excreta is hilarious coming from a guy who cries over the destruction of a government whose foundation was laid on the perpetuation of the belief that certain 'other' humans were 'property'. You're hopelessly ignorant if you actually believe that "foundation was laid on the perpetuation of the belief that certain 'other' humans were 'property'" nonsense that you spewed above.
But we don't expect much intelligence from leftists who carry on about "humans as property" when they themselves celebrate the fact that human children are being treated as trash to be destroyed in the womb....which is far worse and has a far greater numerical impact than slavery ever had.
Sixty million human babies treated as tissue...PROPERTY OF THE MOTHER....and mercilessly slaughtered without a chance to ever live long enough to make THEIR own "choice". Hitler, Mao and Stalin would be so proud of the genocide that the left has wrought.
Still wanna dance, troll?
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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 18:42:20 GMT
But you are not liberal in your beliefs, so how would you know?
Freon
I'm just going by what people on the left tell me they believe. Well let's take a vote right here and now.
Liberals, if you agree with any of those lines, please list them.
For me, the answer is none.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 18:44:33 GMT
This excreta is hilarious coming from a guy who cries over the destruction of a government whose foundation was laid on the perpetuation of the belief that certain 'other' humans were 'property'. You're hopelessly ignorant if you actually believe that "foundation was laid on the perpetuation of the belief that certain 'other' humans were 'property'" nonsense that you spewed above.
But we don't expect much intelligence from leftists who carry on about "humans as property" when they themselves celebrate the fact that human children are being treated as trash to be destroyed in the womb....which is far worse and has a far greater numerical impact than slavery ever had.
Sixty million human babies treated as tissue...PROPERTY OF THE MOTHER....and mercilessly slaughtered without a chance to ever live long enough to make THEIR own "choice". Hitler, Mao and Stalin would be so proud of the genocide that the left has wrought.
Still wanna dance, troll?
You didn't answer me, paleo. You complained that I brought up Trump, that it has nothing to do with your points.
So I asked if you would vote for him.
And I see you responded to someone else. What about my question?
You've backed yourself into a corner. If you answer no, you are choosing to lie to save face. If you answer yes, then you admit I have a point.
What's it going to be?
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Post by Greg55_99 on Aug 26, 2020 18:44:42 GMT
None.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 23:35:10 GMT
You're hopelessly ignorant if you actually believe that "foundation was laid on the perpetuation of the belief that certain 'other' humans were 'property'" nonsense that you spewed above.
But we don't expect much intelligence from leftists who carry on about "humans as property" when they themselves celebrate the fact that human children are being treated as trash to be destroyed in the womb....which is far worse and has a far greater numerical impact than slavery ever had.
Sixty million human babies treated as tissue...PROPERTY OF THE MOTHER....and mercilessly slaughtered without a chance to ever live long enough to make THEIR own "choice". Hitler, Mao and Stalin would be so proud of the genocide that the left has wrought.
Still wanna dance, troll?
You didn't answer me, paleo. You complained that I brought up Trump, that it has nothing to do with your points.
So I asked if you would vote for him.
And I see you responded to someone else. What about my question?
You've backed yourself into a corner. If you answer no, you are choosing to lie to save face. If you answer yes, then you admit I have a point.
What's it going to be?
Freon
No I just shook my head and moved on after your inane digression. Yes, I'll be voting for Trump, which STILL has nothing to do with the post that you previously replied to.You have no point at all, other that having a desperate "BUT, BUT, BUT.....TRUMP!!" moment.
But if you think that you have some point, show us. You insist that you are intellectually above us, but don't seem to demonstrate your prowess when challenged. Nothing substantive to offer, which may mean we're debating an empty suit.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 27, 2020 0:10:13 GMT
You didn't answer me, paleo. You complained that I brought up Trump, that it has nothing to do with your points.
So I asked if you would vote for him.
And I see you responded to someone else. What about my question?
You've backed yourself into a corner. If you answer no, you are choosing to lie to save face. If you answer yes, then you admit I have a point.
What's it going to be?
Freon
No I just shook my head and moved on after your inane digression. Yes, I'll be voting for Trump, which STILL has nothing to do with the post that you previously replied to.You have no point at all, other that having a desperate "BUT, BUT, BUT.....TRUMP!!" moment.
But if you think that you have some point, show us. You insist that you are intellectually above us, but don't seem to demonstrate your prowess when challenged. Nothing substantive to offer, which may mean we're debating an empty suit.
I'm impressed. It took integrity to respond, knowing you would lose face.
It is what differentiates a Trump supporter like you, from the more verbose and crass in the forum. And your communication style demonstrates a background that is semi-learned, which also seems rare for one with your views. I love it!
To your point. There are literally thousands of books and articles out there that support my argument. It is so well documented and accepted, that I challenge you to find even one that repudiates the view.
As I said to dman just the other day, show me the counter-argument, and if it makes sense, I will willingly (though not happily) concede your point that certain races, in this case blacks, are themselves the problem. Prove, or show someone who has proven, that there are no other factors contributing to the one data point which you base all your racism on. That blacks commit crimes at a higher rate than other races.
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Post by thor on Aug 27, 2020 7:18:39 GMT
This excreta is hilarious coming from a guy who cries over the destruction of a government whose foundation was laid on the perpetuation of the belief that certain 'other' humans were 'property'. You're hopelessly ignorant if you actually believe that "foundation was laid on the perpetuation of the belief that certain 'other' humans were 'property'" nonsense that you spewed above.
But we don't expect much intelligence from leftists who carry on about "humans as property" when they themselves celebrate the fact that human children are being treated as trash to be destroyed in the womb....which is far worse and has a far greater numerical impact than slavery ever had.
Sixty million human babies treated as tissue...PROPERTY OF THE MOTHER....and mercilessly slaughtered without a chance to ever live long enough to make THEIR own "choice". Hitler, Mao and Stalin would be so proud of the genocide that the left has wrought.
Still wanna dance, troll?
ROFL, Paleo.... Its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. You are Bitch-Slapped.  |
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Post by stugatze on Aug 27, 2020 10:49:10 GMT
....it may be an email making the rounds but it is what we see and read posted here each day by our Democrat "friends". 1. You believe the COVID 19 was caused by Trump and the US Military. 2. You believe that the same school system that can't teach 4th graders how to read is somehow the best qualified to teach those same kids all about sex. 3. You believe guns, in the hands of law-abiding Americans, are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology, in the hands of Chinese communists or radical Muslims. 4. You believe that there was no art before Federal funding. 5. You believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by yuppies driving SUVs! 6. You believe that gender roles are artificial but being LGBT is natural 7. You are against capital punishment but support abortion on demand as far out as Post Birth. 8. You believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity. 9. You believe that hunters do not care about nature, but loony activists from Seattle do. 10. You believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it. 11. You believe the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars. 12. You believe the NRA is bad, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it supports certain parts of the constitution. 13. You believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high. 14. You believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee, and Thomas Edison. 15. You believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not. 16. You believe Hillary Clinton is all about "progress" not power. She just wants to help us out of the archaic system of governing that we have been subject to for the past 200 plus years. 17. You believe that the only reason socialism has not worked anywhere it’s been tried, is because the right people haven't been in charge such as Hillary Clinton, AOC, The Squad and Schumer - Pelosi. 18. You believe Republicans telling the truth belong in jail, but a Extreme Far Left Racial Communist - Socialist -Muslim was the Greatest POTUS of all time. 19. You believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal. 20. You believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States. 21. You believe that the vociferous minorities who protest against prayer and saluting the flag in school have far more rights than the majority who believe in God and country and want these values to be instilled in our young children You believe any and you are a Democrat. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ My friend Abe is correct, .. and I will go further. Actually, .. the demoncrap liberal socialist party voter looks at all the points on the list as a unique elixir, if not also almost like liberal sacraments to embrace, .. although it is obvious so many are too damn ashamed to admit it, .. so, they lie about their beliefs, and try to deny it.  |
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