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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 1:42:47 GMT
Abe, try, just for a brief moment, to accept the fact that we love this country just as much as you do. Try to accept that we want this country strong, successful and rich in our traditions and values. Just like you do.
Do you really believe, I mean really, really believe those extreme points of view would come from people who love this country so much?
There are some who likely do, of course. This is a mishmash of people, and there will always be kooks.
But the vast majority of us would find your list inaccurate, and more likely, offensive.
But if you are being told we are all like that, then I cannot fault you for being so upset. I would be too. Only problem is that it's a lie. Not one liberal in this forum would agree with those points of view. So why would you think the majority of liberals would? Answer? Your news told you to. And you believe them.
Freon
It clearly was written by someone looking to get a reaction with a certain degree of irony thrown in. But your response is amusing. Especially when you make assumptions and then post them as truth. Kind of like what the person writing it did. First off, spare me the feigned outrage. You sit here all day long and join in as well, on plenty of not only outrageous threads but outright lies about Trump supporters yet I never see you step up to the plate and call it out. Second, who said I was upset? You're the one going to great lengths to discount it. Me, I'm just watching the show. Third, where do I say that I care if the majority of liberals would agree. I don't. I have to say that I do get a kick out of the imagination you put into your replies. It's truly a skill to reply to things no one says in such a sincere way. You think I'm outraged? Abe, I'm trying to educate you. I feel bad for you. You are being manipulated, and I would love to help you see clearly. But I see that it just cannot happen. You truly believe you are smart, and aware of what is happening to you. Neither is occurring. Truly a shame. Freon |
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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 1:46:03 GMT
Wow, I carefully read each one, and not even a single one is accurate.
THAT is what you are being fed about us? No wonder you are freaked out all the time.
Each item on that list is either completely inaccurate, or has a component that we believe, followed by an outlandish part that we do not.
Maybe email is not the best source of information, Abraham.
Freon
I read each one as well and I thought all were pretty accurate with the exception of 18. But you are not liberal in your beliefs, so how would you know?
Freon
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Post by atreyu on Aug 26, 2020 1:55:19 GMT
Fact check what? A person's who circulated an email with his opinion. Get the fuck back to that shit board of yours, troll.
Project much?
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Post by atreyu on Aug 26, 2020 1:57:18 GMT
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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 2:00:45 GMT
But you are not liberal in your beliefs, so how would you know?
Freon
You seem to have no issue telling people what you assume they think when they don't say anything on a particular point. By your own words again...so how would you know? Caution: carefully remove foot from mouth freon. Abe, I doubt you are capable of believing this, but I care about you.
If you look closely, that's really the biggest difference between us and our comments.
Freon
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Post by atreyu on Aug 26, 2020 2:05:43 GMT
Who gives a shit? Not me. Thank goodness, I was so worried.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 2:36:29 GMT
Abe, I doubt you are capable of believing this, but I care about you.
If you look closely, that's really the biggest difference between us and our comments.
Freon
Now try replying to what was said? Sure, Abe. I agree with you.
But you are only reporting half the story.
The whole story is that I do so, but only for some in this forum, because only those people are totally transparent.
What you fail to understand, and I have told you this over and over, is that you are completely transparent to me. You, Archie, Stu, Lomelis, and a few others are just not very good at communicating in a forum in a way that shields the thought process you used to write your post. It's not that I spend time trying to figure you out, it's that you wave a giant neon sign over your head that screams what you think you are hiding. I cannot NOT see what you are thinking.
Whereas the reverse is not true. That is why I irritate you so much, and why you don't irritate me at all.
I find you fascinating because in calling you on your obvious biases, I learn the actual thought processes behind someone who believes as you do. You are authentic. Raw. You have no means of being duplicitous. And you may not believe it, but I am actually very soft in the way I deal with you. Have I ever cursed at you the way you do to me? Have I ever ganged up on you with others? Have I called you any names? Why would I, my intent is not to hurt your feelings, or one-up you. My intent is to make you own your point-of-view, so at some point, we can have an actual discussion. But man, you are stubborn. You still choose to see only what you want to see, instead of what actually is.
But I'm patient.
Freon
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Post by william on Aug 26, 2020 11:26:29 GMT
Now try replying to what was said? Sure, Abe. I agree with you.
But you are only reporting half the story.
The whole story is that I do so, but only for some in this forum, because only those people are totally transparent.
What you fail to understand, and I have told you this over and over, is that you are completely transparent to me. You, Archie, Stu, Lomelis, and a few others are just not very good at communicating in a forum in a way that shields the thought process you used to write your post. It's not that I spend time trying to figure you out, it's that you wave a giant neon sign over your head that screams what you think you are hiding. I cannot NOT see what you are thinking.
Whereas the reverse is not true. That is why I irritate you so much, and why you don't irritate me at all.
I find you fascinating because in calling you on your obvious biases, I learn the actual thought processes behind someone who believes as you do. You are authentic. Raw. You have no means of being duplicitous. And you may not believe it, but I am actually very soft in the way I deal with you. Have I ever cursed at you the way you do to me? Have I ever ganged up on you with others? Have I called you any names? Why would I, my intent is not to hurt your feelings, or one-up you. My intent is to make you own your point-of-view, so at some point, we can have an actual discussion. But man, you are stubborn. You still choose to see only what you want to see, instead of what actually is.
But I'm patient.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 13:43:14 GMT
Sure, Abe. I agree with you.
But you are only reporting half the story.
The whole story is that I do so, but only for some in this forum, because only those people are totally transparent.
What you fail to understand, and I have told you this over and over, is that you are completely transparent to me. You, Archie, Stu, Lomelis, and a few others are just not very It's not that I spend time trying to figure you out, it's that you wave a giant neon sign over your head that screams what you think you are hiding. I cannot NOT see what you are thinking.
Whereas the reverse is not true. That is why I irritate you so much, and why you don't irritate me at all.
I find you fascinating because in calling you on your obvious biases, I learn the actual thought processes behind someone who believes as you do. You are authentic. Raw. You have no means of being duplicitous. And you may not believe it, but I am actually very soft in the way I deal with you. Have I ever cursed at you the way you do to me? Have I ever ganged up on you with others? Have I called you any names? Why would I, my intent is not to hurt your feelings, or one-up you. My intent is to make you own your point-of-view, so at some point, we can have an actual discussion. But man, you are stubborn. You still choose to see only what you want to see, instead of what actually is.
But I'm patient.
Freon
Still off topic. No you aren't patient. What you are is a pompous arrogant ass who applies different standards to individuals who frustrate you because you can't seem to get the best of them in a discussion. You think that your self proclaimed superior intellect should automatically make your point of view the only correct one. Yet you often fail in getting your own points across due to the way you engage a person. Interesting too are those whom you name above but more interesting are those you leave out. Are the trolls here whose responses often are similar to yours good at communicating in a forum in a way that shields the thought process they use to write their posts, to use your words? I dare say, no. Lots of meaningless rhetoric there on your part, Freon. No one hides anything. You merely don't like what many post. There's no "owning" anything, per se. I post what I mean and mean what I post. What am I hiding? Nothing is the answer but you're actually the one who seems to like drama yet you try to use tranference on that score when it happens. Hence your comments that one " is melting down". A sure sign that you are getting frustrated. The fact that a person posted something is ownership in itself unless they are trolling for effect? Is that what you do? If you were truly interested in discussion your replies would bespeak that. They don't. Your posts are rife with demeaning and degrading replies more often than not having NOTHING to do with the topic or what a person said. Case in point...you are replying to me why name others? The answer is your are an inciter, a troll who looks for an argument then blames others for starting it. You seem to think this is a contest that has to be won and not merely an exchange of ideas. You are the one transparent here. So much so that all I have to intentionally do is say, "game, set, match" to irritate and trigger you. I realize there's nothing to win, you don't...however your ego won't allow it...yet you take the bait every time and storm off in a huff saying, "have the last word". Why do you think that most people who engage you end up getting nasty with you? Could it be your arrogance? Could it be the cheap personal shots that you resort to from the first reply? Could it be that YOU refuse to admit they are sometimes right but your ideology won't allow you to? Listen Einstein everything that you accuse others of is a mirror reflecting your own behavior...yet you don't see it or you do... but won't admit it? One difference between you and I is that I realize what people think of me here and brush it off. You can't do that. You have to be seen only in the preconceived light you choose. Have you ever stopped to think that people see right through your "I'm here to learn bullshit"? Maybe there's even one or two who resent being part of what you think is an experiment into human nature. See freon you aren't the only who who can easily figure out a person. Since you're so open to learning here's a tip from someone who you consider stupid yet is smart enough to see through your game. Treat people respectfully from the FIRST reply, leave out the personally insulting comments and you may get beyond two replies and have a real discussion. YOU never let that happen. Your intent is as I told you is not to learn but to insult and inflame and then relish in your accomplishment that amounts to nothing when the dust clears. Next time that you do one of your armchair analyses you might want to be consistent and not contradict your own observations all in the same reply. Abe, I would LOVE it if any one of you Trumpers could irritate me.
I don't even consider YOUR comments to be nasty. That would only be possible if I received your 'nastiness' in the way you intended, but as I keep saying, I see right through you. Your whole diatribe above is about one-upsmanship, because you think it retaliates against me in kind. Whereas, at this time, I see no possibility of competition between us.
And you SAY you brush it off, but I've seen you melt down too many times for that to be true. So you are either an incredibly good liar, or you are lying.
I don't consider you stupid, as in, you are not a moron. But I also do not consider you a peer. I see you as someone who has the capability of being an interesting intellect, but who has not chosen to go on that journey yet.
Freon
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Post by crepe05 on Aug 26, 2020 13:44:48 GMT
If all of this back and forth is summing it up, then let's declare that whatever "it" is is all summed up. Anyone agree?
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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 13:45:50 GMT
If all of this back and forth is summing it up, then let's declare that whatever "it" is is all summed up. Anyone agree? But, but, but, then we won't know who has the larger penis!
Freon
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Post by crepe05 on Aug 26, 2020 13:47:31 GMT
If all of this back and forth is summing it up, then let's declare that whatever "it" is is all summed up. Anyone agree? But, but, but, then we won't know who has the larger penis!
Freon
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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 13:49:20 GMT
But, but, but, then we won't know who has the larger penis! Freon
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 26, 2020 14:16:10 GMT
Wow, I carefully read each one, and not even a single one is accurate.
THAT is what you are being fed about us? No wonder you are freaked out all the time.
Each item on that list is either completely inaccurate, or has a component that we believe, followed by an outlandish part that we do not.
Maybe email is not the best source of information, Abraham.
Freon
I read each one as well and I thought all were pretty accurate with the exception of 18.
Yes but you're a Kool-Aid Vendor. We know for a fact that you'll post and defend pure lies..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 14:47:15 GMT
Abe, try, just for a brief moment, to accept the fact that we love this country just as much as you do.
Try to accept that we want this country strong, successful and rich in our traditions and values. Just like you do.
Do you really believe, I mean really, really believe those extreme points of view would come from people who love this country so much?
There are some who likely do, of course. This is a mishmash of people, and there will always be kooks.
But the vast majority of us would find your list inaccurate, and more likely, offensive.
But if you are being told we are all like that, then I cannot fault you for being so upset. I would be too. Only problem is that it's a lie.
Not one liberal in this forum would agree with those points of view. So why would you think the majority of liberals would? Answer? Your news told you to. And you believe them.
Freon
Sorry, Freon, but I don't accept this "we love America, too!!!" narrative as fact. Based on the actions of today's liberals, I do not believe we can accept the premise that liberals love this country at all, much less as much as we do.
Liberals are like the chronically abusive husband, claiming love and affection right before knocking his wife's teeth out.
Or more analogous would to look at a liberal as a little boy, whose mother just found the kitchen trashed and the garage on fire, glancing up with those big doe eyes and saying "Mommy, I love you". He doesn't really mean it, he's just trying to distract her from the mess that he made.
Perhaps some of the list above was exaggerated or reflect the fringe as you claim, but the basic attitudes of today's liberals are accurately portrayed in the list. Does that mean that all of you fit that list? Perhaps not, but you enable those who do.
You claim that liberals here would not agree with those points as written, but based on the posts of those same liberals on LNF, they do agree with the underlying ideas and sentiments expressed in that list.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 14:51:52 GMT
But, but, but, then we won't know who has the larger penis!
Freon
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Post by Greg55_99 on Aug 26, 2020 14:56:07 GMT
Abe, try, just for a brief moment, to accept the fact that we love this country just as much as you do.
Try to accept that we want this country strong, successful and rich in our traditions and values. Just like you do.
Do you really believe, I mean really, really believe those extreme points of view would come from people who love this country so much?
There are some who likely do, of course. This is a mishmash of people, and there will always be kooks.
But the vast majority of us would find your list inaccurate, and more likely, offensive.
But if you are being told we are all like that, then I cannot fault you for being so upset. I would be too. Only problem is that it's a lie.
Not one liberal in this forum would agree with those points of view. So why would you think the majority of liberals would? Answer? Your news told you to. And you believe them.
Freon
Sorry, Freon, but I don't accept this "we love America, too!!!" narrative as fact. Based on the actions of today's liberals, I do not believe we can accept the premise that liberals love this country at all, much less as much as we do.
Liberals are like the chronically abusive husband, claiming love and affection right before knocking his wife's teeth out.
Or more analogous would to look at a liberal as a little boy, whose mother just found the kitchen trashed and the garage on fire, glancing up with those big doe eyes and saying "Mommy, I love you". He doesn't really mean it, he's just trying to distract her from the mess that he made.
Perhaps some of the list above was exaggerated or reflect the fringe as you claim, but the basic attitudes of today's liberals are accurately portrayed in the list. Does that mean that all of you fit that list? Perhaps not, but you enable those who do.
You claim that liberals here would not agree with those points as written, but based on the posts of those same liberals on LNF, they do agree with the underlying ideas and sentiments expressed in that list.
Really? Well now, I served 30 years in the US military protecting this country. I am a registered Democrat and I vote. Do I fall into this group?
Tell me.
Greg
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Post by freonbale on Aug 26, 2020 15:06:07 GMT
Abe, try, just for a brief moment, to accept the fact that we love this country just as much as you do.
Try to accept that we want this country strong, successful and rich in our traditions and values. Just like you do.
Do you really believe, I mean really, really believe those extreme points of view would come from people who love this country so much?
There are some who likely do, of course. This is a mishmash of people, and there will always be kooks.
But the vast majority of us would find your list inaccurate, and more likely, offensive.
But if you are being told we are all like that, then I cannot fault you for being so upset. I would be too. Only problem is that it's a lie.
Not one liberal in this forum would agree with those points of view. So why would you think the majority of liberals would? Answer? Your news told you to. And you believe them.
Freon
Sorry, Freon, but I don't accept this "we love America, too!!!" narrative as fact. Based on the actions of today's liberals, I do not believe we can accept the premise that liberals love this country at all, much less as much as we do.
Liberals are like the chronically abusive husband, claiming love and affection right before knocking his wife's teeth out.
Or more analogous would to look at a liberal as a little boy, whose mother just found the kitchen trashed and the garage on fire, glancing up with those big doe eyes and saying "Mommy, I love you". He doesn't really mean it, he's just trying to distract her from the mess that he made.
Perhaps some of the list above was exaggerated or reflect the fringe as you claim, but the basic attitudes of today's liberals are accurately portrayed in the list. Does that mean that all of you fit that list? Perhaps not, but you enable those who do.
You claim that liberals here would not agree with those points as written, but based on the posts of those same liberals on LNF, they do agree with the underlying ideas and sentiments expressed in that list.
Then you perpetuate the inaccurate stereotype, and act based on that inaccuracy.
Which means you WANT to believe it.
You are wrong, btw. You are not more patriotic or loyal to this country than anyone else, and the feeling that you are is self-glorifying for the purpose of justifying your anti-equality behaviors.
By demonizing 'liberals' (as you inaccurately see them), anything Trump does is suddenly ok.
But if you are wrong, then your entire outlook is flawed, and I doubt that is something you want to face.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 15:19:17 GMT
Sorry, Freon, but I don't accept this "we love America, too!!!" narrative as fact. Based on the actions of today's liberals, I do not believe we can accept the premise that liberals love this country at all, much less as much as we do.
Liberals are like the chronically abusive husband, claiming love and affection right before knocking his wife's teeth out.
Or more analogous would to look at a liberal as a little boy, whose mother just found the kitchen trashed and the garage on fire, glancing up with those big doe eyes and saying "Mommy, I love you". He doesn't really mean it, he's just trying to distract her from the mess that he made.
Perhaps some of the list above was exaggerated or reflect the fringe as you claim, but the basic attitudes of today's liberals are accurately portrayed in the list. Does that mean that all of you fit that list? Perhaps not, but you enable those who do.
You claim that liberals here would not agree with those points as written, but based on the posts of those same liberals on LNF, they do agree with the underlying ideas and sentiments expressed in that list.
Really? Well now, I served 30 years in the US military protecting this country. I am a registered Democrat and I vote. Do I fall into this group?
Tell me.
Greg
Thank you for your service, but, as we saw in John McCain, military service doesn't always result in a love of America's ideals....nor measurable intelligence. |
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 26, 2020 15:27:46 GMT
Really? Well now, I served 30 years in the US military protecting this country. I am a registered Democrat and I vote. Do I fall into this group?
Tell me.
Greg
, as we saw in John McCain, military service doesn't always result in a love of America's ideals....nor measurable intelligence.
This^ comment is the very definition of vile .
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