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Post by freonbale on Aug 24, 2020 4:20:29 GMT
Trumpers, you say we liberals are evil, but even you cannot deny that the bulk of this country's educated citizenry is liberal.
So my question to you is simple. Would you like us to leave?
Please consider your answer. We are the inventors, the entertainers, educators, the creative engine of this country.
Would you REALLY like us to leave?
Thanks for playing,
Freon
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 24, 2020 6:29:24 GMT
Trumpers, you say we liberals are evil, but even you cannot deny that the bulk of this country's educated citizenry is liberal.
So my question to you is simple. Would you like us to leave?
Please consider your answer. We are the inventors, the entertainers, educators, the creative engine of this country.
Would you REALLY like us to leave?
Thanks for playing,
Freon
I suspect they are too stupid to realize they need us.
At least the Trumpers who read this forum would be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 12:54:09 GMT
Trumpers, you say we liberals are evil, but even you cannot deny that the bulk of this country's educated citizenry is liberal.
So my question to you is simple. Would you like us to leave?
Please consider your answer. We are the inventors, the entertainers, educators, the creative engine of this country.
Would you REALLY like us to leave?
Thanks for playing,
Freon
Never confuse education with intelligence or knowledge with wisdom. They are not the same. As far as entertainers and educators, I agree that the bulk of those groups have been indoctrinated, but I would say that inventors and those in technical fields like engineering are far less likely to be part of the liberal herd.
As far as leaving, I would like to see the entire Pacific coast seceded as a bastion of liberals to do as they please without imposing their perversions on flyover country. We have become too incompatible and we need a divorce.
Do we need you? We need normal, decent folks with lots of common sense and integrity. We need Calexit.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 24, 2020 13:21:57 GMT
Trumpers, you say we liberals are evil, but even you cannot deny that the bulk of this country's educated citizenry is liberal.
So my question to you is simple. Would you like us to leave?
Please consider your answer. We are the inventors, the entertainers, educators, the creative engine of this country.
Would you REALLY like us to leave?
Thanks for playing,
Freon
Never confuse education with intelligence or knowledge with wisdom. They are not the same. As far as entertainers and educators, I agree that the bulk of those groups have been indoctrinated, but I would say that inventors and those in technical fields like engineering are far less likely to be part of the liberal herd.
As far as leaving, I would like to see the entire Pacific coast seceded as a bastion of liberals to do as they please without imposing their perversions on flyover country. We have become too incompatible and we need a divorce.
Do we need you? We need normal, decent folks with lots of common sense and integrity. We need Calexit.
I see. So you truly don't see that the liberals are the ones bringing in the most money to this country.
If we left you, you would be Alabama, but scaled up.
I guess that sounds pretty great to you, right?
Freon
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Post by phillip on Aug 24, 2020 13:23:39 GMT
Maybe conservative states should stop taking more federal dollars from the government than they contribute? As is the case with a vast amount of such states.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 24, 2020 13:26:28 GMT
Trumpers, you say we liberals are evil, but even you cannot deny that the bulk of this country's educated citizenry is liberal.
So my question to you is simple. Would you like us to leave?
Please consider your answer. We are the inventors, the entertainers, educators, the creative engine of this country.
Would you REALLY like us to leave?
Thanks for playing,
Freon
Perhaps a selective thinning. You don't give us a choice. This is difficult for us too.
We are the smarter side of the country, baffled at your side's views of the world.
Freon
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 14:15:01 GMT
Maybe conservative states should stop taking more federal dollars from the government than they contribute? As is the case with a vast amount of such states. Gee, I wonder how many of those federal dollars go to retirees, military personnel and handouts to parasitic demographics that typically vote Democratic? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 14:29:11 GMT
Perhaps a selective thinning. You don't give us a choice. This is difficult for us too.
We are the smarter side of the country, baffled at your side's views of the world.
Freon
More educated does not translate to "smarter". We don't hear of a lot of folks that want to be like California, at least in relation to its governing style and ideas. |
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Post by phillip on Aug 24, 2020 14:30:08 GMT
Maybe conservative states should stop taking more federal dollars from the government than they contribute? As is the case with a vast amount of such states. Gee, I wonder how many of those federal dollars go to retirees, military personnel and handouts to parasitic demographics that typically vote Democratic?
Ah, so handouts don't go to people who vote Democratic in Democratic states that pay more in federal dollars than they receive but they go to those who vote Democratic in Republican states that receive more in federal dollars than they pay.
Paleo illogical thinking at its finest.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 24, 2020 14:50:17 GMT
This is difficult for us too.
We are the smarter side of the country, baffled at your side's views of the world.
Freon
More educated does not translate to "smarter". We don't hear of a lot of folks that want to be like California, at least in relation to its governing style and ideas. Well, considering that 1 out of every 9 of us is FROM Cali, not really surprising.
Why do you say that more educated does not equal smarter? How would you know?
Have you BEEN more educated? Do you think it is easy to become educated?
You have such confidence in your statement, but it sounds like something someone who is NOT educated would say, to negate having respect for someone who is.
Freon
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Post by freonbale on Aug 24, 2020 14:57:02 GMT
This is difficult for us too.
We are the smarter side of the country, baffled at your side's views of the world.
Freon
We are left with no alternative but war. It's a cold civil war right now.
Are you suggesting a hot one?
Freon
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Post by freonbale on Aug 24, 2020 15:17:54 GMT
It's a cold civil war right now.
Are you suggesting a hot one?
Freon
You guys are making it a hot war because you can't have your way about everything. I'm simply saying we should answer you. At the beginning of Trump's next term when he has a free hand, he should stage a Tiannanmen-style cleanup. Note the difference, though: whereas China did it against actually peaceful protesters, Trump will be doing it against violent ones. The truly scary part about what you just said is that you are convinced it's true.
The VAST majority of protesters are non-violent, but the news you are getting is saying it is the opposite which is true.
And you are saying you are willing to take up arms, because your media has told you to fear something which does not exist.
Fake news indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 15:22:24 GMT
Maybe conservative states should stop taking more federal dollars from the government than they contribute? As is the case with a vast amount of such states. Gee, I wonder how many of those federal dollars go to retirees, military personnel and handouts to parasitic demographics that typically vote Democratic? And the interstate system, military bases, etc. That's a claim that has been resoundingly debunked numerous times. They just can't let it go because it fits the narrative they want to be true. |
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Post by phillip on Aug 24, 2020 15:30:09 GMT
Gee, I wonder how many of those federal dollars go to retirees, military personnel and handouts to parasitic demographics that typically vote Democratic? And the interstate system, military bases, etc. That's a claim that has been resoundingly debunked numerous times. They just can't let it go because it fits the narrative they want to be true. Not a narrative, it’s backed up by numerical facts. www.businessinsider.com/federal-taxes-federal-services-difference-by-state-2019-1#illinois-13What is a narrative are your excuses for why this is so. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 15:32:08 GMT
More educated does not translate to "smarter". We don't hear of a lot of folks that want to be like California, at least in relation to its governing style and ideas. Well, considering that 1 out of every 9 of us is FROM Cali, not really surprising.
Why do you say that more educated does not equal smarter? How would you know?
Have you BEEN more educated? Do you think it is easy to become educated?
You have such confidence in your statement, but it sounds like something someone who is NOT educated would say, to negate having respect for someone who is.
Freon
A perfect example of what I'm talking about. Respect is not earned simply because one has spent years in college. I've seen idiots with masters degrees who are lost in the real world. It's a bit like the green second lieutenant and his experienced noncoms; life tends to be a little different than college. Classroom theory rarely cures stupid; the real education usually starts after graduation. A professor once told me that an education's greatest value is teaching you how to think critically and logically. At one time, college exposed us to differing viewpoints and methodologies for solving problems. Now it's the left's indoctrination network.
"Smart" has to be observed, not automatically assumed based on the number of sheepskins per capita. And what the rest of us observe are the socialist perversions emanating from the west coast and they tell us that critical thinking and common sense are not welcome there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 15:36:52 GMT
No one is doubting the numbers, but there's more to the story as to why. That was the point that KSU was making. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 15:39:00 GMT
No one is doubting the numbers, but there's more to the story as to why. That was the point that KSU was making. He doesn't care. He wants to take a fact and a fantasy, merry the two and use the fact as proof of the fantasy. |
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Post by freonbale on Aug 24, 2020 15:44:01 GMT
Well, considering that 1 out of every 9 of us is FROM Cali, not really surprising.
Why do you say that more educated does not equal smarter? How would you know?
Have you BEEN more educated? Do you think it is easy to become educated?
You have such confidence in your statement, but it sounds like something someone who is NOT educated would say, to negate having respect for someone who is.
Freon
A perfect example of what I'm talking about. Respect is not earned simply because one has spent years in college. I've seen idiots with masters degrees who are lost in the real world. It's a bit like the green second lieutenant and his experienced noncoms; life tends to be a little different than college. Classroom theory rarely cures stupid; the real education usually starts after graduation. A professor once told me that an education's greatest value is teaching you how to think critically and logically. At one time, college exposed us to differing viewpoints and methodologies for solving problems. Now it's the left's indoctrination network.
"Smart" has to be observed, not automatically assumed based on the number of sheepskins per capita. And what the rest of us observe are the socialist perversions emanating from the west coast and they tell us that critical thinking and common sense are not welcome there.
How can 'smart' be observed when those judging are not aware of where they live on the intellectual spectrum?
Stu actually believes he's a smart guy. Nothing anyone says will change that view.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 24, 2020 15:52:56 GMT
How can 'smart' be observed when those judging are not aware of where they live on the intellectual spectrum?
Stu actually believes he's a smart guy. Nothing anyone says will change that view.
Freon
It might help to look at education not as a whole but as parts. We need certain educated people, with degrees in science, technology, engineering, and math. And those areas have been relatively uncontaminated by leftist dogma. That could be fixed more by having a separate general education school specifically for them. But then there are the other programs, which aren't needed as much. That is where the leftist dogma has gotten in the most. In my experience, the people in those degrees, with the exception of engineering, are generally liberal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 15:56:04 GMT
Trumpers, you say we liberals are evil, but even you cannot deny that the bulk of this country's educated citizenry is liberal.
So my question to you is simple. Would you like us to leave?
Please consider your answer. We are the inventors, the entertainers, educators, the creative engine of this country.
Would you REALLY like us to leave?
Thanks for playing,
Freon
I deny it! news.gallup.com/poll/275792/remained-center-right-ideologically-2019.aspx 76% of Americans don't identify as liberal. We can do without the 24%. |
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