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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 23, 2020 11:24:01 GMT
Holy shit. Here’s a start. Let’s go with a couple of doozies. Ferguson’s model predicted 80,000+ deaths in Sweden without extreme lockdown measures. They’re still under 6,000, and deaths have slowed to a trickle. Fauci has contradicted his own statements so often that I’m stunned you’re demanding explanation. How can “don’t wear a mask” to “everybody must wear a mask and goggles” both be right?
Ferguson is not in Sweden. Ferguson is in the UK. But since you want to talk about Sweden, it's had a Covid19 fatality rate that is three to seven times that of its neighbors: Norway, Finland, Denmark. Zombie Rabbit fail.
Fauci? How about listing his contradictions? The only one I'm aware of is his shift on face masks, but there's a rational explanation for that: initially talk of face masks was about those to prevent wearers from getting the virus. That mean N95 masks. In mid February, Fauci said the risk of coronavirus in the US was “minuscule”. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4787209002Now you’re saying it has been the greatest threat to America of all time, seeing as lockdown of economy has never been tried at this level before.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 23, 2020 11:26:00 GMT
Um. Wut? Are you saying that experts can’t make predictions about countries that they don’t live in? I have no idea why you would state this as if it somehow refuted that Ferguson’s model indeed predicted 80,000+ deaths in Sweden without extreme lockdown measures. Your counter is so absurd that I must conclude that you’re a clever troll pitching satire. Therefore, well done. You are ignoring the undeniable fact that Sweden's approach was a failure. It had a covid death rate three to seven times higher than its Scandinavian neighbors, who did enact stringent lockdowns.
That doesn’t mean it’s a “failure”. If all countries slowed speed limits to 5 mph, and Sweden said “fuck that”, would a higher vehicle accident death rate mean their policy was a failure? Lol. You’re acting as if the sole and supreme function of government is to prevent viral deaths. It’s absurd, yet you take it as a given.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 23, 2020 11:26:43 GMT
Ferguson is not in Sweden. Ferguson is in the UK. But since you want to talk about Sweden, it's had a Covid19 fatality rate that is three to seven times that of its neighbors: Norway, Finland, Denmark. Zombie Rabbit fail.
Fauci? How about listing his contradictions? The only one I'm aware of is his shift on face masks, but there's a rational explanation for that: initially talk of face masks was about those to prevent wearers from getting the virus. That mean N95 masks. In mid February, Fauci said the risk of coronavirus in the US was “minuscule”. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4787209002Now you’re saying it has been the greatest threat to America of all time, seeing as lockdown of economy has never been tried at this level before.
If you're going to lie like this, we are done here.
You're a mega jerk.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 23, 2020 11:29:40 GMT
Um. Wut? Are you saying that experts can’t make predictions about countries that they don’t live in? I have no idea why you would state this as if it somehow refuted that Ferguson’s model indeed predicted 80,000+ deaths in Sweden without extreme lockdown measures. Your counter is so absurd that I must conclude that you’re a clever troll pitching satire. Therefore, well done. Ferguson, moreover, is irrelevant to a discussion of US covid concerns. He has also been forced to resign from his government position because he undermined social distancing himself (inviting his married paramour to come stay with him).
Try again; be better. Don't be such a jerk.
You are way underestimating Ferguson’s influence on governments around the world early on in this pandemic.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 23, 2020 11:29:53 GMT
You are ignoring the undeniable fact that Sweden's approach was a failure. It had a covid death rate three to seven times higher than its Scandinavian neighbors, who did enact stringent lockdowns.
That doesn’t mean it’s a “failure”. If all countries slowed speed limits to 5 mph, and Sweden said “fuck that”, would a higher vehicle accident death rate mean their policy was a failure? Lol. You’re acting as if the sole and supreme function of government is to prevent viral deaths. It’s absurd, yet you take it as a given.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Try explaining that to the families of the 5,000 Swedes who died needlessly because of insufficient precautions.
What a total jerk you are.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 23, 2020 11:31:15 GMT
In mid February, Fauci said the risk of coronavirus in the US was “minuscule”. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4787209002Now you’re saying it has been the greatest threat to America of all time, seeing as lockdown of economy has never been tried at this level before.
If you're going to lie like this, we are done here.
You're a mega jerk.
Lol.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 23, 2020 11:32:30 GMT
That doesn’t mean it’s a “failure”. If all countries slowed speed limits to 5 mph, and Sweden said “fuck that”, would a higher vehicle accident death rate mean their policy was a failure? Lol. You’re acting as if the sole and supreme function of government is to prevent viral deaths. It’s absurd, yet you take it as a given.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Try explaining that to the families of the 5,000 Swedes who died needlessly because of insufficient precautions.
What a total jerk you are.
Then I’ll anxiously await your advocacy of reducing all speed limits worldwide to 5 mph. Or I’ll ask that you explain to the hundreds of thousands of families who lose loved ones worldwide to the tragedy of vehicle accidents why you oppose such progressive measures.
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