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Post by Running Deer on Jul 22, 2022 15:35:00 GMT
So it's fair to say that tons and tons of American Christians supported destroying Iraq. No, that is not fair to say at all. You jump from support for an invasion to "destroy" Iraq. They are not the same thing at all. The invasion did destroy Iraq, though. It kicked off a horrific civil war, then led directly to rise of ISIS. More than a million people died. There were ethnic and religious cleansings. You can't invade a country, topple its government, then say, "Oh heavens, I had no idea there would be awful problems afterwards!" "My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober." - G.K. Chesterton |
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Post by Monster Man on Jul 22, 2022 15:48:53 GMT
No, that is not fair to say at all. You jump from support for an invasion to "destroy" Iraq. They are not the same thing at all. The invasion did destroy Iraq, though. It kicked off a horrific civil war, then led directly to rise of ISIS. More than a million people died. There were ethnic and religious cleansings. You can't invade a country, topple its government, then say, "Oh heavens, I had no idea there would be awful problems afterwards!" "My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober." - G.K. Chesterton I was in Iraq. It was not destroyed nor was that what we were doing when I was there. I supported a unit that's sole purpose was going out to build stuff for the Iraqis for crying out loud. The Iraqi people controlled their own destiny and chose to continue on in their Sunni / Shia / Kurd battles. We spent a lot of money, time, and blood on trying to help them find a better path and had to fight Saddam's purposeful mechanisms in place to stifle such attempts along the way. The death estimates of 1Million + are from the most extreme estimators with a healthy dose of criticism for their methods and conclusions. But again, to the point, that was not Christians supporting Americans going there and just slaughtering people. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2022 16:10:55 GMT
The invasion did destroy Iraq, though. It kicked off a horrific civil war, then led directly to rise of ISIS. More than a million people died. There were ethnic and religious cleansings. You can't invade a country, topple its government, then say, "Oh heavens, I had no idea there would be awful problems afterwards!" "My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober." - G.K. Chesterton I was in Iraq. It was not destroyed nor was that what we were doing when I was there. I supported a unit that's sole purpose was going out to build stuff for the Iraqis for crying out loud. The Iraqi people controlled their own destiny and chose to continue on in their Sunni / Shia / Kurd battles. We spent a lot of money, time, and blood on trying to help them find a better path and had to fight Saddam's purposeful mechanisms in place to stifle such attempts along the way. The death estimates of 1Million + are from the most extreme estimators with a healthy dose of criticism for their methods and conclusions. But again, to the point, that was not Christians supporting Americans going there and just slaughtering people. Your presence in Iraq was based on a lie by the Bush admin. That there weapons of mass destruction there, that were never found, nor were any traces of these so called WMDs ever found. You had no business being there to begin with. |
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Post by Monster Man on Jul 23, 2022 2:58:30 GMT
I was in Iraq. It was not destroyed nor was that what we were doing when I was there. I supported a unit that's sole purpose was going out to build stuff for the Iraqis for crying out loud. The Iraqi people controlled their own destiny and chose to continue on in their Sunni / Shia / Kurd battles. We spent a lot of money, time, and blood on trying to help them find a better path and had to fight Saddam's purposeful mechanisms in place to stifle such attempts along the way. The death estimates of 1Million + are from the most extreme estimators with a healthy dose of criticism for their methods and conclusions. But again, to the point, that was not Christians supporting Americans going there and just slaughtering people. Your presence in Iraq was based on a lie by the Bush admin. That there weapons of mass destruction there, that were never found, nor were any traces of these so called WMDs ever found. You had no business being there to begin with. Hindsight is 20/20. Several of the worlds leading intelligence services all concluded Saddam had WMD's and Saddam refused to allow weapons inspectors in. Saddam had lost a war to us and was not holding up his end of the bargain for surrender and peace. We did find WMD's there, although, they turned out to be several thousand chemical weapons shells from pre 1991 war munitions that arguably were most likely to have just been misplaced or unaccounted for in the vast amount of munitions caches scattered across the country. Either way, clearly not what we had thought he had or was trying to conceal. Looking back, you had a dictator who had previously manufactured and used WMD's, was refusing to comply with inspections... so it is not that far fetched to presume he might still be concealing them. |
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