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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 18:09:56 GMT
Whew.
Who knew Palecon was such a misinformed nutjob? Poor little Useless. Were you feeling lonely and left out?
Were the adults talking and ignoring you? Go finish watching Bubble Guppies while the grown ups finish our discussion.
Bless your little heart.
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Post by atreyu on Aug 21, 2020 21:27:52 GMT
Thank you for admitting that Trump should be in prison for obstruction. I could not have planned that better, you stuck the whole foot up your own ass. :-) Are you getting senile like Creepy Joe? Kindly point out where I agreed with the quote, rather than just point out what its author was referring to. Let's see if I get an honest response from this troll next time.
... and you're the one running around saying Mueller said no collusion.
I repeat.
You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 22:32:44 GMT
Are you getting senile like Creepy Joe? Kindly point out where I agreed with the quote, rather than just point out what its author was referring to. Let's see if I get an honest response from this troll next time.
... and you're the one running around saying Mueller said no collusion.
I repeat.
You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar.
Not true at all; I didn't think that I would get an honest response from this troll. Mueller's report said no evidence of collusion. If you want to look less stupid (a tall order, I know), show us where his report concluded that there was collusion by the Trump campaign. |
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Post by atreyu on Aug 21, 2020 22:58:11 GMT
... and you're the one running around saying Mueller said no collusion.
I repeat.
You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar. You are a liar.
Not true at all; I didn't think that I would get an honest response from this troll. Mueller's report said no evidence of collusion. If you want to look less stupid (a tall order, I know), show us where his report concluded that there was collusion by the Trump campaign.
No, you point to the part in the report that Mueller said there was "no evidence of collusion". I've already pointed to the parts that show there were.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 0:06:49 GMT
Not true at all; I didn't think that I would get an honest response from this troll. Mueller's report said no evidence of collusion. If you want to look less stupid (a tall order, I know), show us where his report concluded that there was collusion by the Trump campaign.
No, you point to the part in the report that Mueller said there was "no evidence of collusion". I've already pointed to the parts that show there were. “Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
“Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election.”
The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation.
There's plenty more if you need it.
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Post by atreyu on Aug 22, 2020 0:38:24 GMT
No, you point to the part in the report that Mueller said there was "no evidence of collusion". I've already pointed to the parts that show there were. “Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
“Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election.”
The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation.
There's plenty more if you need it.
I guess I need to see it, still no "no evidence of collusion." Imagine that. Your own quote "evidence was not sufficient to charge" -- implies there is evidence.
Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.
During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.
During the course of 2016, Trump Campaign associates failed to report any of the Russian/WikiLeaks overtures to federal law enforcement, publicly denied any contacts with Russians/WikiLeaks, and actively encouraged the public to doubt that Russia was behind the hacking and distribution of stolen emails.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Aug 22, 2020 1:17:49 GMT
“Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
“Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election.”
The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation.
There's plenty more if you need it.
I guess I need to see it, still no "no evidence of collusion." Imagine that. Your own quote "evidence was not sufficient to charge" -- implies there is evidence.
Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.
During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.
During the course of 2016, Trump Campaign associates failed to report any of the Russian/WikiLeaks overtures to federal law enforcement, publicly denied any contacts with Russians/WikiLeaks, and actively encouraged the public to doubt that Russia was behind the hacking and distribution of stolen emails.
Here's the problem. Republicans say this report shows no evidence of collusion. However, the report goes on to describe incidents of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Greg |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 4:17:40 GMT
I guess I need to see it, still no "no evidence of collusion." Imagine that. Your own quote "evidence was not sufficient to charge" -- implies there is evidence.
Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.
During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.
During the course of 2016, Trump Campaign associates failed to report any of the Russian/WikiLeaks overtures to federal law enforcement, publicly denied any contacts with Russians/WikiLeaks, and actively encouraged the public to doubt that Russia was behind the hacking and distribution of stolen emails.
Thanks for proving my point. Not a single stitch of what you posted is evidence of collusion. When this kind of list goes down the rabbit hole of "Egad! The transition team contacted foreign diplomats!", you know the leftist behind it has desperately drifted into farcical territory. Time for us to laugh and move on.
You know as well as I that if there had been any legitimate evidence, Mueller would have pounced on it and made it a centerpiece of his witch hunt. As I said, no evidence of collusion, your little fantasy notwithstanding.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 22, 2020 4:41:58 GMT
Didn't Mueller also say that the report did not exonerate Trump and company?
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Post by Greg55_99 on Aug 22, 2020 10:29:47 GMT
I guess I need to see it, still no "no evidence of collusion." Imagine that. Your own quote "evidence was not sufficient to charge" -- implies there is evidence.
Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.
Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.
The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.
The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.
Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.
Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.
A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.
Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.
The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.
The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.
Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.
During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.
During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.
During the course of 2016, Trump Campaign associates failed to report any of the Russian/WikiLeaks overtures to federal law enforcement, publicly denied any contacts with Russians/WikiLeaks, and actively encouraged the public to doubt that Russia was behind the hacking and distribution of stolen emails.
Thanks for proving my point. Not a single stitch of what you posted is evidence of collusion. When this kind of list goes down the rabbit hole of "Egad! The transition team contacted foreign diplomats!", you know the leftist behind it has desperately drifted into farcical territory. Time for us to laugh and move on.
You know as well as I that if there had been any legitimate evidence, Mueller would have pounced on it and made it a centerpiece of his witch hunt. As I said, no evidence of collusion, your little fantasy notwithstanding.
Tell you what. In your own words, define "collusion". Oh, and you've skipped right over the perjury part. Why come THAT? Greg |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 14:30:01 GMT
Thanks for proving my point. Not a single stitch of what you posted is evidence of collusion. When this kind of list goes down the rabbit hole of "Egad! The transition team contacted foreign diplomats!", you know the leftist behind it has desperately drifted into farcical territory. Time for us to laugh and move on.
You know as well as I that if there had been any legitimate evidence, Mueller would have pounced on it and made it a centerpiece of his witch hunt. As I said, no evidence of collusion, your little fantasy notwithstanding.
Tell you what. In your own words, define "collusion". Oh, and you've skipped right over the perjury part. Why come THAT? Greg collusion [kəˈlo͞oZHən] NOUN secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
"Why come that" Oh, so very eloquent...... 
You haven't been paying attention, have you? My post on perjury from page 3:
On Trump allegedly perjuring himself, the source is a convicted liar and fraud who made a deal with Mueller!
Paul Manafort’s former deputy Rick Gates admitted to using offshore bank accounts to pay for a secret extramarital affair, including providing a London apartment for his mistress and luxury trips through Europe, during Manafort’s tax and bank fraud trial on Tuesday afternoon.
Manafort’s defense attorneys accused Gates of embezzling money from the former Trump campaign chairman to fund his ‘secret life’ and overseas mistress during an explosive exchange at the trial on Tuesday.
Gates also told the court he might have stolen money from the Trump inauguration committee while he was a staffer there after the election.www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6036143/Rick-Gates-says-Paul-Manafort-set-offshore-banking-network.html
Not a reputable source for a perjury accusation.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Aug 22, 2020 15:03:03 GMT
Tell you what. In your own words, define "collusion". Oh, and you've skipped right over the perjury part. Why come THAT? Greg collusion [kəˈlo͞oZHən] NOUN secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
"Why come that" Oh, so very eloquent......
You haven't been paying attention, have you? My post on perjury from page 3:
On Trump allegedly perjuring himself, the source is a convicted liar and fraud who made a deal with Mueller!
Paul Manafort’s former deputy Rick Gates admitted to using offshore bank accounts to pay for a secret extramarital affair, including providing a London apartment for his mistress and luxury trips through Europe, during Manafort’s tax and bank fraud trial on Tuesday afternoon.
Manafort’s defense attorneys accused Gates of embezzling money from the former Trump campaign chairman to fund his ‘secret life’ and overseas mistress during an explosive exchange at the trial on Tuesday.
Gates also told the court he might have stolen money from the Trump inauguration committee while he was a staffer there after the election.www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6036143/Rick-Gates-says-Paul-Manafort-set-offshore-banking-network.html
Not a reputable source for a perjury accusation.
Oh GOOD. Now we have a basis for discussion. We'll take things one at a time. - Michael Flynn. Calling up a Russian spy to inform him of an intention to negate US policy. Flynn, at the time was an undeclared foreign agent of Ukraine and Turkey and had taken money from Russian oligarchs. He then LIED about these relationships to federal agents. Collusion or not? Greg |
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Post by RWB on Aug 22, 2020 15:29:15 GMT
The mindless, animalistic Trump hatred by the leftist thug mob motivates more of us to vote for Trump.
When did America stop being great in the first place, when your messiah obama went on his ass kissing tour disrespecting the Queen of England by not bowing to her BUT bowing to all his muslim terrorist buddies. AND lets not forget the 150 billion dollars he gave the #1 supporters of terrorism Iran. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 16:33:21 GMT
Oh GOOD. Now we have a basis for discussion. We'll take things one at a time. - Michael Flynn. Calling up a Russian spy to inform him of an intention to negate US policy. Flynn, at the time was an undeclared foreign agent of Ukraine and Turkey and had taken money from Russian oligarchs. He then LIED about these relationships to federal agents. Collusion or not? Greg Spy? You must mean Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, the guy who visited the Obama White House 22 times between 2009 and 2016.
The things that you mention above were part of Flynn's personal dealings with Russia and in no way indicates collusion by the Trump administration. And the calls by Flynn to Kislyak occurred in December 2016, which hardly fits a narrative of election interference. |
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Post by stugatze on Aug 22, 2020 16:39:42 GMT
Poor Greggy, ... he still thinking Trump is guilty of something that Robert Mueller could NOT prove.
Greggy, .. if there was any damn evidence, .. Trump WOULD have been charged. Mueller looked for over two years with pro-Hillary investigators who HATE Trump. 
Greggy, .. you seem so damn desperate .. to smear and hate Trump!
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Post by Greg55_99 on Aug 23, 2020 0:55:08 GMT
Oh GOOD. Now we have a basis for discussion. We'll take things one at a time. - Michael Flynn. Calling up a Russian spy to inform him of an intention to negate US policy. Flynn, at the time was an undeclared foreign agent of Ukraine and Turkey and had taken money from Russian oligarchs. He then LIED about these relationships to federal agents. Collusion or not? Greg Spy? You must mean Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, the guy who visited the Obama White House 22 times between 2009 and 2016.
The things that you mention above were part of Flynn's personal dealings with Russia and in no way indicates collusion by the Trump administration. And the calls by Flynn to Kislyak occurred in December 2016, which hardly fits a narrative of election interference. Ah so. Well Kysliac was also the top spy operating in the US,but let's move on. - Roger Stone was coordinating Wikileaks dumps with Julian Assange. Assange got his hacked email material from Russians. Stone personally kept Trump informed about dumps and when they were to occur. When questioned by Mueller, both Stone and Trump denied this interaction. In Stone's trial, this came out as a FACT. Stone was convicted of lying. Collusion? Greg |
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