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Post by Odysseus on Sept 11, 2020 17:31:46 GMT
Nothing here, all my - maybe that's it glimmers, get canceled by the next clue Well, at least you're trying.
I think!
Maybe we need another clue?
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 11, 2020 17:33:34 GMT
Clue #12:
There is a Clyde, but no Bonnie.
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Post by bama beau on Sept 11, 2020 18:24:55 GMT
At first I thought it might be The Thin Man,
then I thought it wasn't, now I think it is again.
EDIT: My wife just read me the plot and
confirmed my suspicions: The Thin Man.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 19:14:46 GMT
At first I thought it might be The Thin Man, then I thought it wasn't, now I think it is again. EDIT: My wife just read me the plot and confirmed my suspicions: The Thin Man. I hear it's a lighter version of "The Fat Man". |
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 11, 2020 20:14:34 GMT
At first I thought it might be The Thin Man, then I thought it wasn't, now I think it is again. EDIT: My wife just read me the plot and confirmed my suspicions: The Thin Man.
Tell your wife she's a keeper!
Great movie - I happen to have a DVD collection of the original Thin Man as well as the five sequels, and then another disc with something about Nick and Nora. I think the first one is probably the best, but I may go through the various sequels now that I'm started on it.
It was sort of a challenge coming up with clues that are not too obvious because it's such a memorable movie with well known dialog, so I couldn't use much of the dialog as clues. Interestingly, apparently, a lot of the scenes between Dick Powell (Nick Charles) and Myrna Loy (Nora Charles) were not exactly to script, the director (Van Dyke) let them do a lot of single take scenes and ran with it. These are some of the best scenes in the film, with their natural chemistry and ad-libs working wonders. The classic bar scene where Nick is holding forth about how different cocktails need to be shaken to different rhythms (martinis to fox trots) was fairly spontaneous, as Powell was told it was just a camera/sound check, so he was relaxed and natural. Van Dyke liked the result and used it in the final cut. Apparently a lot of scenes were shot similarly, with single takes.Except for the final banquet scene where the dialog was complex enough that they had to do multiple takes.
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 11, 2020 20:19:22 GMT
At first I thought it might be The Thin Man, then I thought it wasn't, now I think it is again. EDIT: My wife just read me the plot and confirmed my suspicions: The Thin Man. I hear it's a lighter version of "The Fat Man".
Not too far off: the murderer kills the Thin Man (Clyde Wynant) leaves the naked body to rot under the shop floor, but tosses in a fat man's suit of clothing to try to conceal the body's identity. However a fluoroscope of the corpse's bones reveals shrapnel in an ankle, which Nick associates with Wynant's known limp.
Also, you'll note that this was actually a mystery movie, hah.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 21:00:18 GMT
I've never watched it.
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 11, 2020 21:39:51 GMT
I'm surprised. I thought most everybody had.
The Thin Man was released in 1934, while the nation was in a buoyant mood over the end of Prohibition the year before. There are a LOT of references to alcohol, to the point where Nick grumps that a mystery people are urging him to solve is interfering with his drinking. It's not as if people were unfamiliar with it earlier, it just was no longer driven underground. So The Thin Man tends to celebrate the return of social drinking, taking it as far as representing some obviously inebriated but happy characters (the man calling his mother long distance), and even Nick and Nora get a little tipsy - at one point making it into a contest, when Nora comes to Nick's table, gets a martini, asks Nick how many he's had, and immediately orders five more to catch up. She pays for it later, having to wear an ice pack on her head in bed and around the apartment. All the evil characters are shown as stone cold sober teetotalers. No "mean drunks" in The Thin Man.
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 12, 2020 1:09:48 GMT
At first I thought it might be The Thin Man, then I thought it wasn't, now I think it is again. EDIT: My wife just read me the plot and confirmed my suspicions: The Thin Man.
You're up, ya know, right?
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Post by bama beau on Sept 12, 2020 1:14:07 GMT
The Thin Man is another family favorite.
Anyone who likes old movies should see it.
Next movie:
1) Explores the traumas of war.
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 12, 2020 1:28:06 GMT
The Thin Man is another family favorite. Anyone who likes old movies should see it. Next movie: 1) Explores the traumas of war.
Slaughterhouse Five
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 2:21:30 GMT
Apocalypse Now?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 2:22:48 GMT
I'm surprised. I thought most everybody had.
The Thin Man was released in 1934, while the nation was in a buoyant mood over the end of Prohibition the year before. There are a LOT of references to alcohol, to the point where Nick grumps that a mystery people are urging him to solve is interfering with his drinking. It's not as if people were unfamiliar with it earlier, it just was no longer driven underground. So The Thin Man tends to celebrate the return of social drinking, taking it as far as representing some obviously inebriated but happy characters (the man calling his mother long distance), and even Nick and Nora get a little tipsy - at one point making it into a contest, when Nora comes to Nick's table, gets a martini, asks Nick how many he's had, and immediately orders five more to catch up. She pays for it later, having to wear an ice pack on her head in bed and around the apartment. All the evil characters are shown as stone cold sober teetotalers. No "mean drunks" in The Thin Man.
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Post by bama beau on Sept 12, 2020 2:25:34 GMT
The Thin Man is another family favorite. Anyone who likes old movies should see it. Next movie: 1) Explores the traumas of war.
Slaughterhouse Five
Nice try. 2) Especially the trauma caused when the men who fought the wars experienced events that made them re-evaluate their own sense of identity. |
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 12, 2020 2:56:48 GMT
Nice try. 2) Especially the trauma caused when the men who fought the wars experienced events that made them re-evaluate their own sense of identity. Coming Home |
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Post by william on Sept 12, 2020 3:01:14 GMT
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Post by william on Sept 12, 2020 3:04:46 GMT
Born on the 4th of July
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 12, 2020 3:54:22 GMT
Nice try. 2) Especially the trauma caused when the men who fought the wars experienced events that made them re-evaluate their own sense of identity.
Heartbreak Ridge
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 12, 2020 4:32:42 GMT
Or, Platoon
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 12, 2020 5:52:08 GMT
OK, while we are waiting for the groundhog to emerge, here's the more complete clue list for The Thin Man puzzle:
1) Mr. Wynant is a wealthy workshop owner/inventor who discovers savings bonds, which he intended to give to his daughter as a wedding present, are missing from the company safe. 2) After the murders are solved, Nick, Nora, and Asta are homeward bound on a train for California, as the eponymous music plays in the background.
3) Police Lt. Guild threatens to "Frisk the Joint" in Nick and Nora's apartment, but Nick tells him he'll need a warrant first. 4) In the final banquet-for-suspects scene, Nora politely asks that the nuts be served to the guests. 5) During a lively party, a drunk crook asks Nick if he can call his mother; it turns out it's long distance from NY to SF. 6) One of Nick's underworld acquaintances expresses pleasure when the identity of the murderer is finally revealed, and it's not him.
7) Wynant's bookkeeper Tanner learned his trade in prison; Nick had helped put him behind bars. 8) Asta smells something under a new patch of concrete in the workshop and paws at it. Turns out it's Wynant's decomposed body under there.
9) Nick says that Wynant never closed up his shop before to go traveling, so he's suspicious. 10) The movie has an animated US map showing a dragnet popping out of NYC and extending out to the West Coast, representing law enforcement looking for Mr. Wynant all over the nation. Ironically, Wynant was the first murder victim.
11) Wynant's oddball son Gilbert reassures his sister that even if their father is a murderer, she can still have children because Mendelian genetics show it would result in only 25% of them being murderers as well. 12) Wynant's first name is Clyde. So is Oombabeau's.
Bonus Answer: The murderer turns out to be mild-mannered Herbert MacCaulay, Wynant's attorney, who has been embezzling Wynant's money. MacCaulay murders Wynant, his secretary Julia, and then Nunheim as each finds out about the theft/murders. Wynant's ex-wife Mimi has been in on the embezzlement scheme and finally turns on MacCaulay in the final banquet scene, resulting in MacCaulay's arrest.
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