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Post by Odysseus on Aug 16, 2020 6:56:31 GMT
Well, my thought was there are a number of varieties of Spanish spoken across the Americas and in Europe. I suppose primarily accent and colloquial phrases. Sort of like American vs. British English.
And I understand the German that Austrians speak is different from that of Berliners.
Whales have dialects too.
"Whsles have dialects..."? It's called "Welsh" you ignorant bastard, spoken by half my family for millenia until the English almost eliminated it two generations ago. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language
No, Welsh is a verb; it is what someone does when they renege on an agreement.
Whales refers to the largest marine mammals belonging to the Cetacea order.
You know, like Jasmine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 21:34:05 GMT
These expressions are racist and well-mannered people don't use them. There is an impressive list of expressions based on basic xenophobia: "Pardon my French", "Going Dutch", "Get away scot-free", Indian giver, gyp... etc...
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 17, 2020 22:04:35 GMT
These expressions are racist and well-mannered people don't use them. There is an impressive list of expressions based on basic xenophobia: "Pardon my French", "Going Dutch", "Get away scot-free", Indian giver, gyp... etc... Yeah, nah, not really.
I'm part French and I have no problem with "pardon my French". Also part Scots, and scot-free similarly has zero offense as far as I am concerned. I've been told I look Dutch, but I am not; still, "going Dutch" is hardly insulting since it designates an admirable act of sharing if not charity. "Indian giver", I'd agree, is offensive and should not be used except by ill-mannered people, as you say.
I suppose we can agree to disagree on this, if you persist in your quite entertaining theory on the rest.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 11:54:27 GMT
"Pardon my French" is used as an excuse for someone speaking rudely or making bodily noises like coughing or eructing. BTW, I AM French (born and bred), I am also part Polish and part Russian and part German, which I guess explains why I am practically fluent in all of these languages. I didn't want to bring that up and I usually don't but you sort of asked for it. Anyway... Sadly, English is only my fourth language which I guess accounts for my experiencing difficulties in some of its dialects, like American for example. But this is not the only xenophobic expression about the French that I know of. There's also "French leave" which is far from complimentary. "Going Dutch" is for a guy who's too cheap to invite his date (because the Dutch are said (by xenophobes) to be cheap.). "Scot-free" is for someone who's guilty but gets unjustifiable preferential treatment (typically because of a technicality). Hardly what I'd call a compliment, either. "welsh" is because the welsh are said (by xenophobes) to be unreliable and untrustworthy and that's definitely a racist expression, so is gyp. I don't see how you can defend this. I mean that's four nationalities that are collectively insulted (Welsh, Gypsies, Scots and Indians) and accused of practically the same thing, IE being assholes that you can't count on, and yet you justify all this by saying that you have the blood of some of these nationalities in your veins!!! You know know what that makes you? A traitor. Well, not "high-treason" mind you, but definitely some kind of betrayal.
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Post by bama beau on Aug 18, 2020 15:53:01 GMT
"Pardon my French" is used as an excuse for someone speaking rudely or making bodily noises like coughing or eructing. BTW, I AM French (born and bred), I am also part Polish and part Russian and part German, which I guess explains why I am practically fluent in all of these languages. I didn't want to bring that up and I usually don't but you sort of asked for it. Anyway... Sadly, English is only my fourth language which I guess accounts for my experiencing difficulties in some of its dialects, like American for example. But this is not the only xenophobic expression about the French that I know of. There's also "French leave" which is far from complimentary. "Going Dutch" is for a guy who's too cheap to invite his date (because the Dutch are said (by xenophobes) to be cheap.). "Scot-free" is for someone who's guilty but gets unjustifiable preferential treatment (typically because of a technicality). Hardly what I'd call a compliment, either. "welsh" is because the welsh are said (by xenophobes) to be unreliable and untrustworthy and that's definitely a racist expression, so is gyp. I don't see how you can defend this. I mean that's four nationalities that are collectively insulted (Welsh, Gypsies, Scots and Indians) and accused of practically the same thing, IE being assholes that you can't count on, and yet you justify all this by saying that you have the blood of some of these nationalities in your veins!!! You know know what that makes you? A traitor. Well, not "high-treason" mind you, but definitely some kind of betrayal. I prefer this version of you. |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 18, 2020 20:43:00 GMT
It just means I'm not a hypersensitive, pretentious, nationalistic jerk.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 21:37:09 GMT
It just means I'm not a hypersensitive, pretentious, nationalistic jerk.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 19, 2020 0:27:17 GMT
It just means I'm not a hypersensitive, pretentious, nationalistic jerk.
No, you're just a traitor who endorses xenophobia and racism. Absolutely not, you über troll.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 19, 2020 0:31:11 GMT
"Pardon my French" is used as an excuse for someone speaking rudely or making bodily noises like coughing or eructing. BTW, I AM French (born and bred), I am also part Polish and part Russian and part German, which I guess explains why I am practically fluent in all of these languages. I didn't want to bring that up and I usually don't but you sort of asked for it. Anyway... Sadly, English is only my fourth language which I guess accounts for my experiencing difficulties in some of its dialects, like American for example. But this is not the only xenophobic expression about the French that I know of. There's also "French leave" which is far from complimentary. "Going Dutch" is for a guy who's too cheap to invite his date (because the Dutch are said (by xenophobes) to be cheap.). "Scot-free" is for someone who's guilty but gets unjustifiable preferential treatment (typically because of a technicality). Hardly what I'd call a compliment, either. "welsh" is because the welsh are said (by xenophobes) to be unreliable and untrustworthy and that's definitely a racist expression, so is gyp. I don't see how you can defend this. I mean that's four nationalities that are collectively insulted (Welsh, Gypsies, Scots and Indians) and accused of practically the same thing, IE being assholes that you can't count on, and yet you justify all this by saying that you have the blood of some of these nationalities in your veins!!! You know know what that makes you? A traitor. Well, not "high-treason" mind you, but definitely some kind of betrayal. I prefer this version of you.
He's really Swedish, from Trollhättan...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 5:19:19 GMT
I prefer this version of you.
He's really Swedish, from Trollhättan...
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 19, 2020 7:00:04 GMT
He's really Swedish, from Trollhättan...
You can't help being a little shit, can you?
A narcissist like you can't help admiring yourself in mirrors.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 9:55:03 GMT
You can't help being a little shit, can you?
A narcissist like you can't help admiring yourself in mirrors.
A narcissist? You're the one who made a thread to brag about your linguistic skills, asshole! |
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Post by Mercy for All on Aug 20, 2020 1:16:27 GMT
I took French in school for years. Never become conversational. My first language was Dutch. It's mostly gone now. Just English with smatterings of other languages, unfortunately.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 22, 2020 19:12:26 GMT
It's a bit weird that the least logical language in the first world, English, has become the "lingua franca" of modern times.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 27, 2020 22:39:39 GMT
Although I'm not convinced everyone here actually speaks English, let's just make that assumption anyway.
Me, I took a couple years of French in high school. Can't say I'm fluent but I understand enough to order in a restaurant if I was in France which I never have been.
After college I went on a road trip to Guatemala with some buddies, one of whom grew up in Panama and seemed to speak Spanish fluently. Then they suddenly decided to go back to the USA. I decided to stay in Guaté, despite not knowing much if any Spanish. I guess I made it up as a sort of illiterate Franish as I went along. It wasn't 100% necessary to know it in order to catch buses and planes and give people money etc. And in most every town at least somebody spoke English. When I got back home I took a night school class in Spanish, which was a bit helpful.
Most recently I've been watching the mini-series "Das Boot" which is in a variety of languages, including of course German, but also French and English. It has got me interested in learning German at this point in life. It seems to be an intriguing language, and I think I'd enjoy its reputed precision and more logical spelling (English spelling is truly horrific).
So what languages do you know? Anybody here speak German?
Does sarcasm count? No? I am passable at Spanish, I can read Hebrew, and I am learning Japanese right now. Oh wait, does Python count? Freon |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 29, 2020 4:30:36 GMT
Although I'm not convinced everyone here actually speaks English, let's just make that assumption anyway.
Me, I took a couple years of French in high school. Can't say I'm fluent but I understand enough to order in a restaurant if I was in France which I never have been.
After college I went on a road trip to Guatemala with some buddies, one of whom grew up in Panama and seemed to speak Spanish fluently. Then they suddenly decided to go back to the USA. I decided to stay in Guaté, despite not knowing much if any Spanish. I guess I made it up as a sort of illiterate Franish as I went along. It wasn't 100% necessary to know it in order to catch buses and planes and give people money etc. And in most every town at least somebody spoke English. When I got back home I took a night school class in Spanish, which was a bit helpful.
Most recently I've been watching the mini-series "Das Boot" which is in a variety of languages, including of course German, but also French and English. It has got me interested in learning German at this point in life. It seems to be an intriguing language, and I think I'd enjoy its reputed precision and more logical spelling (English spelling is truly horrific).
So what languages do you know? Anybody here speak German?
Does sarcasm count? No? I am passable at Spanish, I can read Hebrew, and I am learning Japanese right now. Oh wait, does Python count? Freon
Only if you are looking for work as a programmer (I forget just now what Python is most suited to). Apparently computer programming jobs are among the highest paid if you're going to work for somebody.
Like you I'm passable, albeit just barely, in Spanish. Can't read Hebrew, although I grew up with it. Our house when I was a kid was a block away from a Jewish cemetery and the road through it was an oft taken shortcut to downtown. So I grew up thinking that the strange Hebrew inscriptions on the lovely gravestones, most of highly polished granite, were what I want on mine when I die. Still do, actually. I'll just need to go back, photograph some, have them translated, etc.
Or just have my ashes scattered in the ocean.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 29, 2020 5:23:14 GMT
Does sarcasm count? No? I am passable at Spanish, I can read Hebrew, and I am learning Japanese right now. Oh wait, does Python count? Freon
Only if you are looking for work as a programmer (I forget just now what Python is most suited to). Apparently computer programming jobs are among the highest paid if you're going to work for somebody.
Like you I'm passable, albeit just barely, in Spanish. Can't read Hebrew, although I grew up with it. Our house when I was a kid was a block away from a Jewish cemetery and the road through it was an oft taken shortcut to downtown. So I grew up thinking that the strange Hebrew inscriptions on the lovely gravestones, most of highly polished granite, were what I want on mine when I die. Still do, actually. I'll just need to go back, photograph some, have them translated, etc.
Or just have my ashes scattered in the ocean.
Feel free to post those cemetery pics, I'll be glad to translate. Hebrew is a pain, because for the most part, it is written without vowels. The entire Torah doesn't have a single vowel. Would be cool to have ashes sent into space. Freon |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 29, 2020 5:56:29 GMT
Only if you are looking for work as a programmer (I forget just now what Python is most suited to). Apparently computer programming jobs are among the highest paid if you're going to work for somebody.
Like you I'm passable, albeit just barely, in Spanish. Can't read Hebrew, although I grew up with it. Our house when I was a kid was a block away from a Jewish cemetery and the road through it was an oft taken shortcut to downtown. So I grew up thinking that the strange Hebrew inscriptions on the lovely gravestones, most of highly polished granite, were what I want on mine when I die. Still do, actually. I'll just need to go back, photograph some, have them translated, etc.
Or just have my ashes scattered in the ocean.
Feel free to post those cemetery pics, I'll be glad to translate. Hebrew is a pain, because for the most part, it is written without vowels. The entire Torah doesn't have a single vowel. Would be cool to have ashes sent into space. Freon
LOL, when I get the pics (I don't think I currently have any) I'll send you them.
A minor problem is that cemetery is about 3,000 miles way, on the other side of this continent. At some point I'd like to go back an visit. Last time I was there was around 1974, and I don't think I brought a camera. And next time I'd probably have to arrange the visit with not only the cemetery caretaker but the town police in advance. I had heard that there has been some vandalism there so it's kind of sensitive. When I was a kid I was kind of invisible. But in '74 as a young adult I got stopped by the local cop was I was just walking down the street, LOL.
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Post by bama beau on Jan 23, 2021 8:14:19 GMT
I also speak Duck. Or at least my granddaughter thinks I do.
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Post by Odysseus on Jan 23, 2021 21:33:18 GMT
I also speak Duck. Or at least my granddaughter thinks I do.
You've always been a bit quackers.
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