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Post by Odysseus on Jul 18, 2020 22:12:24 GMT
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Post by jasmine on Jul 19, 2020 0:00:40 GMT
The Jasmine Doctrine on Racism:
Racism is stupid, but in the end it’s just another way of thinking, not unlike liberalism or socialism.
People have a right to be racist.
Racism exists in many forms. There are Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals who are racist.
Whites are racist. Blacks are racist. People of every color are racist.
My two-word summary on Racism: big whoop.
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 19, 2020 0:28:53 GMT
The Jasmine Doctrine on Racism: Racism is stupid, but in the end it’s just another way of thinking, not unlike liberalism or socialism. People have a right to be racist. Racism exists in many forms. There are Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals who are racist. Whites are racist. Blacks are racist. People of every color are racist. My two-word summary on Racism: big whoop.
Why is Jasman still here? He lost a bet where his penalty, self-imposed, was six months banning from LNF.
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 19, 2020 1:26:36 GMT
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Post by jasmine on Jul 19, 2020 4:57:31 GMT
The Jasmine Doctrine on Racism: Racism is stupid, but in the end it’s just another way of thinking, not unlike liberalism or socialism. People have a right to be racist. Racism exists in many forms. There are Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals who are racist. Whites are racist. Blacks are racist. People of every color are racist. My two-word summary on Racism: big whoop. Racism or nonracism may also be considered at the microlevel or at the macrolevel. At the microlevel, one may or may not base expectations of an individual on his race. At the macrolevel, one may or may not base expectations of a racial group on the group's race. In politics, racism or nonracism at the macrolevel may be the most important. Macrolevel nonracism holds that all race groups are inherently equal on average. Therefore, any disparity on average that is observed between race groups (e.g., academic, economic) must be caused by social, cultural, historical, or other external and mutable factors. This view suggests that the disparities observed can be eliminated by policies that change or counteract the external factors that cause the disparities. Macrolevel racism, on the other hand, holds that race groups are inherently unequal on average. Therefore, any disparity on average that is observed between race groups may be caused by inherent, immutable factors. This view suggests that the disparities observed cannot be eliminated by social, cultural, or other policies. It is also possible to hold a position that is a combination of these two macrolevel positions, where disparities are thought to be caused by both external and internal factors. In this case, policies may be able to reduce disparities but never eliminate them. And one may also take an agnostic view between the two macrolevel positions and say that we do not know whether the disparities are caused by external or internal factors or a combination of the two. Thus we must consider that internal factors may be the cause of the disparities, though they also may not be. And, since in this position we cannot rule out internal factors, we cannot automatically conclude, by elimination, that external factors are the cause of observed disparities and that policies that change these factors may reduce or eliminate the observed disparities. Here is my assessment on race: I don’t doubt that certain races may have physical and/or mental advantages over certain other races. I don’t even care about that. All that matters to me is the individual. The color of your skin or your ethnic background is really meaningless. No person is great because he’s black or white or whatever. Conversely, no one is a loser because he’s black or white or whatever. All that matters is who you are as an individual. If everyone felt felt this way, racism would no longer exist. |
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Post by jasmine on Jul 19, 2020 5:55:56 GMT
Honestly? I don’t care about groups, whether they are disadvantaged or privileged or whatever.
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Post by jasmine on Jul 19, 2020 6:04:34 GMT
Honestly? I don’t care about groups, whether they are disadvantaged or privileged or whatever. If a group is disadvantaged, they might care about it. Yes. But I don’t. |
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Post by jasmine on Jul 19, 2020 6:12:19 GMT
Those people should be put down.
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 19, 2020 6:16:03 GMT
Those people should be put down.
So says the fakest Christian poseur ever.
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Post by RWB on Jul 19, 2020 6:21:10 GMT
If a group is disadvantaged, they might care about it. Yes. But I don’t. BUT do you believe one race is superior to another race in certain things and is that Racist? Like Basketball is 99% blacks is that because blacks are superior at basketball than whites or are whites just lazy and don't want to take the time to become good at it? Nascar has 1 token black driver does that mean whites are superior drivers? |
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Post by RWB on Jul 19, 2020 6:27:16 GMT
Those people should be put down. I think your little ankle bitter Ulysses is in dire need of your Attention poor thing. |
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Post by jasmine on Jul 19, 2020 7:06:14 GMT
BUT do you believe one race is superior to another race in certain things and is that Racist? Like Basketball is 99% blacks is that because blacks are superior at basketball than whites or are whites just lazy and don't want to take the time to become good at it? Nascar has 1 token black driver does that mean whites are superior drivers? I think black people are probably genetically superior when it comes to speed and athleticism, for whatever reason. You notice there are very few (if any) white cornerbacks in the NFL? There are always exceptions, of course. Ultimately, you need more than genetics to be great at anything. LeBron James, for example, is a physical freak and maybe the ultimate athlete. But he wouldn’t be in the position he is in today if he didn’t have the drive, determination, work ethic and commitment to be great. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 19, 2020 8:28:13 GMT
Scientists generally agree that Africa is where humanity began. And there was and is great diversity among Africans. They had some very advanced civilizations, at a time when Europe was still rooting for acorns in the dirt. I've read that the ancient Egyptians were really black Africans. I know when I visited the Tut exhibit decades ago I was taken by his gold coffin mask - he clearly had features commonly associated with black Africans. My take on African Americans is that the slave traders probably selected those who came from taller, stronger stock, better to fit the needs of the slave buyers and future owners. But if you meet more Africans from Africa you'll find there are plenty of shorter, brainy, nerdy ones. And there is plenty of variety in the African American population that these categorizations lose credibility. Humans evolve, after all, and what was true centuries ago may no longer be true today of any particular population.
That said, there are plenty of tall athletic Europeans, who may also have been artificially selected for by past human interference, such as war, enslavement, etc. Hell, the Spartans used to kill female babies because they wanted sons instead. Or so I've read.
None of this means it's OK to discriminate in our society on the basis of race, gender, age, etc, in matters such as public access, employment, education, etc. In fact it's highly illegal, as it should be. Racism is just plain wrong.
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Post by limey² on Jul 19, 2020 8:57:16 GMT
We could warp space-time, in order to create pseudo-dimensional reality cells each in a state of infinite collapse. This would give us a timelike loop in which places for an infinite number of posters would always be (and simultaneously NOT be) available. Still might struggle to squeeze Jasmine in.
I like it! Make it so!
But wait: isn't Jasman supposed to be on a self-imposed six month timeout?
She already did it. I lent her my time-compressor next January. |
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Post by limey² on Jul 19, 2020 9:00:29 GMT
Here is my assessment on race: I don’t doubt that certain races may have physical and/or mental advantages over certain other races. I don’t even care about that. All that matters to me is the individual. The color of your skin or your ethnic background is really meaningless. No person is great because he’s black or white or whatever. Conversely, no one is a loser because he’s black or white or whatever. All that matters is who you are as an individual. If everyone felt felt this way, racism would no longer exist. What if there are inherent advantages and disadvantages? And what if those inherent advantages and disadvantages produce economic advantages and disadvantages, along with the different qualities of life that go with them? People can look at economic statistics and see it. Or, if like you they don't really care and so don't bother with such statistics, they can simply look around their neighborhood and see how it is (all black, all poor), and they can look at other neighborhoods and see how it is (no blacks, not poor). That can produce envy for certain disadvanted groups. It can produce revolution. We can tell them it's not them; it's the system. And we'll try to fix it, and they should hold off with the revolution. Or we can tell them it is them, and it will never change. And then what will they do? Practically speaking, will they be content to be a permanent underclass? If there's a distribution on a given variable (IQ say) over the whole population, in which we can rank everyone low>high, and a subset of people (working class whites, for example) cluster in the 35<>80 range, what would that mean? |
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Post by limey² on Jul 19, 2020 18:39:08 GMT
If there's a distribution on a given variable (IQ say) over the whole population, in which we can rank everyone low>high, and a subset of people (working class whites, for example) cluster in the 35<>80 range, what would that mean? That people with low IQs wind up in the working class? Or maybe as senior politicians.... |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 20, 2020 4:50:39 GMT
That people with low IQs wind up in the working class? Or maybe as senior politicians....
In the UK as members of the Conservative Party
In the USA, as members of the Republican Party
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Post by bama beau on Jul 20, 2020 5:27:40 GMT
The Caste System, and Your Part In It, next time, on Geraldo.
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Post by william on Jul 20, 2020 12:56:14 GMT
Or maybe as senior politicians....
In the UK as members of the Conservative Party
In the USA, as members of the Republican Party
Or, as trump, just born with daddy's wealth. |
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